Australia tour of West Indies

[Blackhat]

the quickest i saw him bowl today was 89.2 mph which for a guy his age and from the run up that he uses is not bad at all.

That is not bad at all, and for a 19 year old that is really impressive.

 

[Howsie]

I wouldn't say that. People have been saying that he is one of the better young players in the Caribbean, he had great batting potential and he was good in the field its just that he had behavior issues.
I don't want to sound like know it all but I have been saying that he (along with a couple of other batsman) should replace Marlon Samuels even before Samuels was suspended. He has a good assortment of shots and as you can see he is not afraid to take on some of the best bowlers in the world. During the 2nd test in his second innings he got a really good delivery from Clark but its his batting against spin that he has to improve, he hasn't really looked comfortable against the spinners but I am sure that he will improve on that.

As for Roach I have never seen him play before today and he surprised me with the pace that he generates from such a short run up. His run up and delivery sort of looks like that of Maharoof but he generates far more pace and he is only 19 years old. I could see him as the 3rd pace option behind Taylor and Edwards and that would give the West Indies a good pace attack, unless someone new comes out and ends up performing really good in domestic cricket Roach is the future.

Roach was also in that under 19 team wasn't he. I'm sure he was the lanky kid with the short run up, from what I saw of him 4 months ago if he already has that 90mph speed he could easily get another 5mph on top of that.

 

[cric_craze]

more like street cricket than like international cricket today

 

[angryangy]

If we wanted a spinner I would have tried, Dothery, had a decent season and did well in the FRC final. Our other form spinner would have been McGain, not much after him. Should have at least got one of those two on tour as we all know White is a part timer.

White's over highlighted his big stumbling block to being a pretty decent all-rounder; control. An offie or a medium pacer has a much easier time landing 6 balls on the dot than a leggie, but White has actually made the difficult art harder by bowling faster and taking away all the turn.

Any leggie will tell you that the key to the art is having unpickable variance in your stock ball.

You might say, but what of Kumble, who bowls faster with less turn? I'm glad you asked; Kumble is an expert at varying his pace, so in a word, yes, Kumble does in fact have plenty of deceptive variance within the stock ball. Moreover, Kumble has accuracy and control; this gives him a top class ability to flight the ball on a variety of trajectories. On the right pitch, this combination is unplayable, but it takes a great bowler to put it all together all the time. Certainly not the realm of a batting all-rounder.

White by contrast, doesn't really have much of a stock ball and that delivery often seems to just slip out of his hand with no control. With no revolutions on the ball, he can not ever recover the one going down leg and bring it back. Kerry O'Keefe has also observed that the method of White's release is rather difficult and that conventional leg breaks are generally much more natural.

 

[karnog]

I rate Tim Paine better than Luke Ronchi in keeping. With Ronchi likely to bat so low (8 as predicted by cricinfo) what is the point of having him? Drew > Johnson and Hilfenhaus deserved a spot. Bloody hell i've turned Tasmanian without realising...

 

[WestIndian]

more like street cricket than like international cricket today

Did I miss something? Street cricket from whom??

Roach was also in that under 19 team wasn't he. I'm sure he was the lanky kid with the short run up, from what I saw of him 4 months ago if he already has that 90mph speed he could easily get another 5mph on top of that.

For those of you that may or not have heard or seen him, there was a guy we had named Winston Benjamin, from Antigua, he was a Right-arm Fast, he back then came on as our 3rd, and sometimes 4th bowler (we had plenty quicks then: very good ones ) played for West Indies, Hampshire and Leicestershire, he played 21 Test between 1987 and 1995 took 61 wickets @ 27.01 a piece. He was not tall, but what was remarkable about him was his run-up, and pace, if you stopped him half way in his run-up, he would not return to his mark-up, when the batsman would be ready, he would continue from where he stopped and deliver even quicker than from his long run. I once saw him delivered his top pace deliveries from the mark of a spin bowler.
He was mean both on and off the field.

 

[Dare]

Good to see the West Indies playing well, I know it was only 11 overs but it still should give them abit of confindence. I'm also pleased to see Xavier Marshall playing well in the test matches and now the 11/11. I hope he can reach his potential and become a real foce. And I saw KA Pollard on the batting list, that was the kid in the under 19 world cup right? He really impressed me from the games I saw, he looked like a young Chris Gayle.

You are thinking of Kieran Powell the under 19 left handed opener who performed well in the under 19 world cup.

Kieron Pollard is a promising young all-rounder from Trinidad.

 

[manee]

Lol dire, you took that from cricketweb.

Tbh, hard to have cricketweb not rub off on you, itbt.

manee added 1 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

That is not bad at all, and for a 19 year old that is really impressive.

It is, but doubt that he will get the pace training that he needs to be a truly quick bowler.

 

[Inbox24]

Anyone have the scorecard for the university tour game?

 

[Gilly Fan]

Anyone have the scorecard for the university tour game?

We won by 211.

 

[formula1man]

watson got 95, and husseys got 50's

 

[angryangy]

I rate Tim Paine better than Luke Ronchi in keeping. With Ronchi likely to bat so low (8 as predicted by cricinfo) what is the point of having him? Drew > Johnson and Hilfenhaus deserved a spot. Bloody hell i've turned Tasmanian without realising...

Hilf is out with stress fractures, that's why Bollinger made the Test squad (unfair really that he wasn't first pick, after his domestic season). Brendan Drew's pace is too much of a concern for him to ever make it.

Recovery time for a broken finger is 4-6 weeks, which means Haddin has already played through the worst of it by the time the first ODI rolls around. I doubt Ronchi would play at 8 in an ODI, the T20I lineup was more for practice purposes, with Watson, Marsh, White and Bomber unlikely to be all selected in the same side again. He opened after Cricinfo suggested no. 8 anyway.

 

[aussie1st]

If Ronchi was to come into our ODI side then it'll just be the same lineup as we had with Gilly in it with someone replacing Hayden.

David Hussey did his chances no harm with his 50 and Watson surely secured one of the opening spots.

 

[mattfb]

Jaques>Watson in any form of the game.

 

[SciD]

If Watson can get his act together then Aussies will have unbeatable side in ODIs for another 5 years. :crying