Australian Champions pushed Sharad Pawar during Presentation Ceremony!

[jkartik]

the indian press has overblown the issue as usual..but the australians
should have shown some respect too. also, what i dont understand the most is why was there a need for the push/gesture in the first place ?..was it something like if he didnt move that instance, then all the press/media would have refused to take any photos ??
also, ponting should get the award for the most controversial player ever..!

He's standing on the stage when it should be for Australia to celebrate on.

Typical from the BCCI, thinking that cricket is all about them.

By the way, what stopped you posting this in the correct forum?

yeah...your right..the trophy would have just came flying to them...idiot !

wtf !! what does this have to do with the BCCI ?? are you even aware of what you are talking ?

What A Pathetic Looser...GO GET A LIFE !!

if even today CA is trying to teach these animals on respecting players and officials in their training camps, there is no need to say anything more!

but this is definitely wrong:

clearly a disrespect to the poor donkey

LMAO !!! thats a bit too much i guess

 

[Sureshot]

Probably a better catcher too Is rather mean though.

 

[Kev]

Any more posts that direct insults at forum members and this thread will be closed.

 

[sohum]

I didn't think this was that big of a deal but some of the comments here by the Australians simply push the limits of arrogance. If you remove the blanket from your head that your country is the best cricket team in the world, you will realize that this has nothing to do with who won the game. This has even less to do with India not winning the game.

About the family photo, if someone had stood in front of my family during a family photo, no one from my family would have pushed him off to the side. Especially if he was of the age of my grandfather (I'm pretty sure Pawar is pushing that). The only reason such controversy has stemmed in this forum is because of the initial cultural ignorance, which didn't amount to much, but the continued cultural intolerance and justification over here.

 

[andrew_nixon]

wtf !! what does this have to do with the BCCI ?? are you even aware of what you are talking ?

I guess you're right. The chairman of the BCCI has absolutely nothing to do with the BCCI. My mistake.

 

[sohum]

You lost respect for Sachin because he commented on this issue.What about Ponting who two days ago criticising the West Indian players for not attending the ICC awards and was demanding an action against them from ICC bcoz of indiscipline.And he himself forgot what discipline is,and how many fans were watching it live.You guys are not bigger than Sunil Gavaskar and Sachin Tendulkar so if they say anything that matters most than us.This is not the first time Ponting was caught indisciplined. I and many
Indians have no respect for him now.

I have to agree that most of the respect I have for most of the Australian team comes from their exploits on the cricketing field and not off it. However, that is probably what makes them the most successful unit out there, because they're concentrating their full energy on the game and not in preserving all the minute intricacies surrounding the history of the game.

I guess you're right. The chairman of the BCCI has absolutely nothing to do with the BCCI. My mistake.

I think what he is saying and what you are purposely trying to ignore is that the event and the reaction had nothing to do with the BCCI and Indian cricket.

 

[T20]

yeah...your right..the trophy would have just came flying to them...idiot !

may be it should be done that way? next time aussies should be put in a cage and the trophy should be thrown from outside so they can have all the stage/cage to themselves

 

[andrew_nixon]

I think what he is saying and what you are purposely trying to ignore is that the event and the reaction had nothing to do with the BCCI and Indian cricket.

I'm not purposely ignoring anything, I'm just confused why he (and you) thinks that an incident involving the president of the BCCI has nothing to do with the BCCI.

My point, which people ARE ignoring, was that Powar standing on a stage he should not have been on for that long is indicative of the BCCI's attitude to international cricket, which is very much a "we're all that matters" mentality. It is a separate debate to some extent though (but not completely), and one which I've covered before, if you care to dig up the thread.

The reaction to it is completely overblown. Some in India are calling the incident blasphemous! Powar was getting in the way of the photograph and celebrations, the Aussies were well in their rights to ask him to move, and if he ignored their request, they were well in their rights to give him a gentle nudge to remind him to get out of the way.

 

[sohum]

I'm not purposely ignoring anything, I'm just confused why he (and you) thinks that an incident involving the president of the BCCI has nothing to do with the BCCI.

The controversy of the situation has nothing to do with the BCCI, in my opinion.

My point, which people ARE ignoring, was that Powar standing on a stage he should not have been on for that long is indicative of the BCCI's attitude to international cricket, which is very much a "we're all that matters" mentality. It is a separate debate to some extent though (but not completely), and one which I've covered before, if you care to dig up the thread.

I think this is one of the rare cases when your analysis has gone awry because you are trying to read too much into a straightforward situation. What you are saying is that (1) Pawar was standing on stage taking the limelight because (2) the BCCI thinks they're better than everyone else. Both of these statements may be true, but I think the association between them is incorrect.

The reaction to it is completely overblown. Some in India are calling the incident blasphemous! Powar was getting in the way of the photograph and celebrations, the Aussies were well in their rights to ask him to move, and if he ignored their request, they were well in their rights to give him a gentle nudge to remind him to get out of the way.

Obviously they were well within their rights to do whatever they please. The point of the controversy is not that. Things are run differently in India, whatwith our long history of bureaucracy. The Australians were well within their rights to just nab the trophy on the way to the dais; in fact they could have just taken it with them back to the dressing room after they won the game. I agree that Pawar was being lethargic and the Indian press is overreacting (no surprises there) but I'm sure the Australians have toured India enough times to know how it works here.

To put it into a little more context, there was a comment made about the correct protocol being followed around royalty and such. I have no clue about this protocol because I have never interacted with and will never interact with royalty. However, if the Indian cricket team had to meet with royalty (and I'm sure they have, on their various tours abroad) they would know how to act around them.

 

[Skater]

I am sorry if I offended anybody with my comments on this issue this morning, I was feeling annoyed that it was being taken so seriously I didn't care about the words I was typing. Sorry again.

After Sharad Pawar himself said he didn't mind, I think talks of action about it to be stopped. It's like behaviour at a school, if Damien Martyn was the bully and Sharad Pawar was the victim. If you don't tell the teacher, you can't be punished. If Pawar hasn't "told the teacher" so to speak, surely Martyn can't be punished.

 

[sohum]

I am sorry if I offended anybody with my comments on this issue this morning, I was feeling annoyed that it was being taken so seriously I didn't care about the words I was typing. Sorry again.

After Sharad Pawar himself said he didn't mind, I think talks of action about it to be stopped. It's like behaviour at a school, if Damien Martyn was the bully and Sharad Pawar was the victim. If you don't tell the teacher, you can't be punished. If Pawar hasn't "told the teacher" so to speak, surely Martyn can't be punished.

With all due respect, I think all your comments have been about how you would lose respect for the sport if Martyn was punished. The debate is hardly about punishment. I couldn't care less what happens with Martyn (and I hope nothing does). My main stick is the way this issue has been treated with members of this forum. As for Martyn, how can we expect him to respect our cricketing people when he tells a former great from his country to "shut up". :

 

[ZexyZahid]

No it isn't, your press is bitching and the rest of the world doesn't care

First at all, I am Pakistani, so it isn't really 'mine' press. Off course talking like that, won't help the conversation.

To make a simple summary: so far the Asians people didn't like what the Australian players did and the rest of the world (so far people from England, Australia and New Zealand) don't see a problem in it. You can make your own conclusions from this.

 

[Sureshot]

But surely if the guy who they pushed has said he doesn't care everyone else should follow suit?

 

[aussie1st]

I don't see what the problem was with Ponting. That was all a bit of fun, as I said before Martyn's push wasn't needed but like the News people just laugh it off.

For me the presentation did not look organized, if it was done better none of this would have happened. Having the Aussies on stage for a few minutes without the trophy just standing there doing nothing and then having the presenter of the trophy posing or some random crap for about a few minutes is totally unorganized. It should have been handed over to the Aussies when they got on stage, with Ponting accepting it, the guy presenting it moving off the stage and thats the end of the presentation.

 

[T20]

Indian media going on about a fun incident

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Aussie-cricketers-rude-on-podium/2006/11/07/1162661678579.html

I don't see what the problem was with Ponting. That was all a bit of fun, as I said before Martyn's push wasn't needed but like the News people just laugh it off.

I'd be ashamed if captain of my national cricket team behaved like that on a stage, infact I'm not really sure if all in the aussie team liked his antics. Pawar had to ask him to stand in front to receive the trophy which indicates he had no sense of the occasion or his own status as a captain of his national team.

anyway let's see what CA have to say, I hope to see a statement saying it's a normal behavior judging from the posts here.