Australian ODI tour of the United Kingdom and Ireland, June-July 2010

That perfectly right, he was getting that in NZ and I'm sure he got it in Australia and he definitely got it in WI..

Nah he wasn't clocking that high in the T20 WC in WI recently. If you recall the speed guns were hardly shown much in that tournament. But the only game Harris played - he was high 80s.

I questioned the gun when i saw his speeds in NZ earlier this year as well & i remain skeptical. He is a strong lad & he definately bowls a HEAVY ball. But 96.5?? :laugh Come onn...something was wrong their.

If Tait was playing & bowled one @ 96.5 as well. I be interested to know if the England batsmen thought both of them seemed just as fast


Anyway thoughts on todays game.

FOR ENG:

- Morgan is god.

- I still believe Wright & Bresnan are batting one position too high in the ODI line-up & i just dont see it being a long-term success. But they are going ok their ATM, & it will be interesting to see how long that continues.

- It is still disturbing however that Yardy is batting @ 8, behind Bresnan though. If Flower & co really reckon that Bresnan (& at times Swann & Broad as well saw in the T20 WC) are better batsman than him for international cricket, thats a bit uncomfortable. Since regardless of how well his bowling continues to be, his contribution with the bat is equally important. Blackwell & Patel will remain interested.

- As mentioned before by King_Pietersen. Failure for Strauss in this ODI series & his place in the ODI sides will be under pressure.



FOR AUS:

- It obvious to most that the selectors see Tait & Nannes as T20 specialist. But today pretty much proves why at least one of them if not both should have been picked with Johnson, Lee not available. Cant see the logic in picking Hazelwood.


AUS pace attack has a death bowling problem & as Owais Shah said the other day. Lacks an X-Factor in this series without aformentioned bowlers.

So as this series goes on & further ODI this year in the build up to the 2011 WC. Bollinger, McKays positions in the ODI team will come inder close scrutiny. Esepcially if Lee doesn't come back strong before the WC.

Otherwise AUS are fine.
 
Yardy should be in at 6/7 for me, depends how far it is from the end of the innings.
 
I questioned the gun when i saw his speeds in NZ earlier this year as well & i remain skeptical. He is a strong lad & he definately bowls a HEAVY ball. But 96.5?? Come onn...something was wrong their.

Ok did the conversion and yea that seems a bit off. But he was easily in the 90mph mark during the T20 WC and the NZ tour. I also saw him live and yes he did look like a high 140km/h bowler. The fans around me who play club cricket also mentioned the same thing when they saw him.
 
Clarke, despite his 87 not out, is still a concern for me at the end of an innings, with only 2 boundaries in the last 10 overs and a mere 1 boundary in the batting powerplay, Hauritz played better than Clarke in Australia's batting powerplay. Clarke really seems to lack the ability to go up a gear in his batting when needed. I'd almost go as far to say if he's in the ODI team, he should be opening (which is rather unlikely now with Watson, Paine, Haddin and Marsh) because nowadays you can't really afford to have a batsman who can only really knock around singles at the end of an innings. I don't see Australia posting a first innings total above 300 when Clarke scores more than a half century. Just a note, Clarke scored 12 singles and a two from his final 13 balls.

http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-australia-2010/content/current/story/464345.html
 
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It's hard to blame him given Hussey departed in the 34th over and of course he made his 87 runs at a decent enough rate. If he had tried to hit out and failed then we could well have collapsed and been 220 all out. Ideally you would like to see him hit out but that isn't his game these days, he seems to be the anchor that lets the other guy hit out.
 
Morgan just keeps getting better and better. Great innings, well paced. Clarke did well as well considering he got two ducks in the previous games he played. Scored at a decent rate, would have liked to see him try to accelerate during the final overs and the last powerplay but I guess that's just his style of play.

- I still believe Wright & Bresnan are batting one position too high in the ODI line-up & i just dont see it being a long-term success. But they are going ok their ATM, & it will be interesting to see how long that continues.

- It obvious to most that the selectors see Tait & Nannes as T20 specialist. But today pretty much proves why at least one of them if not both should have been picked with Johnson, Lee not available. Cant see the logic in picking Hazelwood.

Agree with those points except the one on Wright (Bresnan is too high up, Yardy should come before Bresnan). If Wright's not coming in at 6, who would you have? And also I would also have either Tait or Nannes (preferably Nannes, Tait is just too erratic) in the Aussie line up. Having either one in the team would give the bowling attack just that little bit more edge.
 
As the old saying goes if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Bresnan seems to be going just fine coming in at 7 and the only reason you would move him is if hes not accelerating the innings which he certainly did today.
 
Didnt bowl badly but just ok, nothing really special yet. Not quite sure how to handle him, but I guess they just have to give him more matches to develop. McGrath was pretty ordinary for quite some time, from his first match in Nov 93 to March 95 he was average, not crap but not exactly cemented in the team, but then came 1st test at Barbados and his life changed forever.
 
Alright for a debut, first ball was a full toss to KP which got the treatment. Other than that he was pretty good with the line and length although the English definitely tried to take him on. Created opportunities just the man wasn't in the right spot, also managed to get some extra bounce although Luke Wright also did the same so that was probably more the pitch than his height. Run up is like Tait until the release where it's more the traditional one.
 
Agree with those points except the one on Wright (Bresnan is too high up, Yardy should come before Bresnan). If Wright's not coming in at 6, who would you have?

In a perfect world Flintoff would be batting @ 6 looking ahead to the 2011 WC & Wright @ 7.

As i said i dont see England having long term success with Wright (although his batting has gotten a bit more solid) @ 6 & Bresnan @ 7. They may get away with it in T20s, but i have my doubts about it for 50 overs.


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Ok did the conversion and yea that seems a bit off. But he was easily in the 90mph mark during the T20 WC and the NZ tour. I also saw him live and yes he did look like a high 140km/h bowler. The fans around me who play club cricket also mentioned the same thing when they saw him.

Yea i dont doubt he is capable 140 k+ bowler & can hit 90 mph ever so often. Him & Hilfenhaus look similar. Looking forward to seeing him bowl live @ Old Trafford on Sunday, long time a proper international hasn't been played here. Hopefully tickets aren't sold out..
 
It's hard to blame him given Hussey departed in the 34th over and of course he made his 87 runs at a decent enough rate. If he had tried to hit out and failed then we could well have collapsed and been 220 all out. Ideally you would like to see him hit out but that isn't his game these days, he seems to be the anchor that lets the other guy hit out.

With scoring rates nowadays, however, both batsmen need to be able to hit out. It's simply not good enough just because Clarke doesn't have monstrous power similar to someone like Pollard does not mean he shouldn't able to accelerate the innings. Just look at what Morgan did for England.

For example, Clarke came in at 2/66 whilst Morgan came in at 2/81 with the run rate required at 5.50, neither situation is much harder than the other, although I'd argue Morgan would've been under more pressure due to being in a run chase situation. Morgan was good enough to both anchor (a rather light/speedy anchor) the innings and score at a strike rate of 121.17 at the same time. That's what ODIs demand nowadays in such a high-scoring environment.

Obviously Clarke is not a terrible ODI player, but for Australia I think there's better options until he adapts better to ODI cricket.
 
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With scoring rates nowadays, however, both batsmen need to be able to hit out. It's simply not good enough just because Clarke doesn't have monstrous power similar to someone like Pollard does not mean he shouldn't able to accelerate the innings. Just look at what Morgan did for England.

For example, Clarke came in at 2/66 whilst Morgan came in at 2/81 with the run rate required at 5.50, neither situation is much harder than the other, although I'd argue Morgan would've been under more pressure due to being in a run chase situation. Morgan was good enough to both anchor (a rather light/speedy anchor) the innings and score at a strike rate of 121.17 at the same time. That's what ODIs demand nowadays in such a high-scoring environment.

Easier said than done, go find another player that can anchor the innings and then hit out not to mention have the technique to survive in the difficult conditions. We would all love to have 7 Morgan or Hussey in our team but that just isn't possible. If you find one then by all means replace him with Clarke but until then we are stuck with him.
 

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