Australian Tour of India, October 2010/11

Ive seen 6 Aus tours to India, only one win. If you seen the terrible tours in th epast you would know how badly we can go in India. 1998 was just abysmal, 2008 not much better.

Look on the positives:
- We went bad last time in India, surely we will improve this time around?
- India's 2 main bowlers last series, Ishant and Harbhajan are out of form.
- We put up a horrible batting performance in England vs Pak, usually we bounce back strongly after a poor performance.
- The players will be charged up and motivated before the Ashes.

I think we will have a really good series tbh.
 
Thinking of canceling the package for October, there is no decent cricket on that Willow is showing. Really pissed they are not showing this series

Do you know how to cancel it? They have given a cancellation key but no option to cancel it in their website. Do I send an e-mail to them asking them to cancel recurring billing?
 
Why not?. AUS have 3 bowlers in Hilfy, Bollinger, Watson who can reverse-swing the ball on the likely flat pitches, which will be KEY to taking 20 wickets in IND.

Reverse swing will be helpful, but it can't be the only weapon. You don't want to be taking your first wicket in the 40th over.

They've talked about the short ball; it's not all hot air, if we remember Peter Siddle's first ball in Test cricket, it donged Gambhir square on the helmet. That in mind, they won't be the first to try it and will have to work harder to have the element of surprise on their side. Hopefully they can execute this better than Sri Lanka, who attempted to pepper the short areas and simply couldn't find a decent one. Pace and bounce will be on their side, but a similar lack of discretion with short pitched bowling will probably still yield the same results.

Indeed, in Australia's successful 04/05 tour of India, the seamers were not about pace at all. They did have the height, but the aim was not to bowl a bouncer. They focused on bowling straighter at the stumps and used cutters to create the variation that would make the batsmen work hard. In conditions where genuine nicks were few, those pacemen got more batsmen bowled and more caught in front of square.

Of course, there's also the South African special; they might just luck their way into a pitch that holds a little early movement for the pacemen. Planning for that one might take a little :spy
 
Do you know how to cancel it? They have given a cancellation key but no option to cancel it in their website. Do I send an e-mail to them asking them to cancel recurring billing?

I sent them an email, my bill cycle is on the 7th so if they charge me again I will just dispute the charge with my credit card company.

I also made sure to let them know what i thought about the interruption in broadcast during the CL final
 
lol Willow not showing it? Who is the official broadcaster then? *checks Espn3* Nope.
 
Honestly I think this is probably Australia's best chance at winning in India tbh. Apart from not being able to win a series in England Ponting hasn't won in India either. So with this 2 match series Aus have a really good chance of winning. Because India can't really make a comeback in a 2 test series. Not to mention Aussies have nothing to lose atm.
 
If Australia win Test 1, Bangalore will be a dusty and spinning track (maybe even underprepared), so I dont think this is Australia's best chance of winning a series in India (winning tests in India is not the deal). If any, I rate India's chances higher. I am guessing that one of the tests will be a draw, and the other one will be in favor of India.
 
If Australia win Test 1, Bangalore will be a dusty and spinning track (maybe even underprepared), so I dont think this is Australia's best chance of winning a series in India (winning tests in India is not the deal). If any, I rate India's chances higher. I am guessing that one of the tests will be a draw, and the other one will be in favor of India.

I'll bet you that the pitch is Bangalore will be close to a dustbowl even if the first test is drawn. I think the only way we get to see a normal pitch in Bangalore is if India win the first test convincingly.
 
Ive seen 6 Aus tours to India, only one win. If you seen the terrible tours in th epast you would know how badly we can go in India. 1998 was just abysmal, 2008 not much better.

Well i see where you are coming from old chap ha. I have seen the last 4 myself since 1998, but i dont think we should be that worried.

In 1998 like 2008. The bowling attack suffered serious injury set-backs & was on the back-foot early on leaving Warne exposed. Plus the fact that in 1998 AUS batsmen where still very vulnerbale againts spin on turners in the sub-continent. Also in 08, AUS where in the early rebuilding stages of the post McGrath/Warme era - so AUS was never really expected to win that series from the outset.

In 01, that was just individual brilllaince from Laxman & Harbhajan that won IND that series. While also AUS although they were in the middle of their legendary run, losing that series proved they still had a MASSIVE achillies heel againts quality spin that was exposed in the 90s.

In 04 as you alll areas where covered in batting & bowling & AUS won that series with ease.

I'd say this 2010 class has most of tools covered in batting & bowling to emulate the 2004 class, instead of faltering like the class of 98 & 01.



angryangy said:
Reverse swing will be helpful, but it can't be the only weapon. You don't want to be taking your first wicket in the 40th over.

They've talked about the short ball; it's not all hot air, if we remember Peter Siddle's first ball in Test cricket, it donged Gambhir square on the helmet. That in mind, they won't be the first to try it and will have to work harder to have the element of surprise on their side. Hopefully they can execute this better than Sri Lanka, who attempted to pepper the short areas and simply couldn't find a decent one. Pace and bounce will be on their side, but a similar lack of discretion with short pitched bowling will probably still yield the same results.

Indeed, in Australia's successful 04/05 tour of India, the seamers were not about pace at all. They did have the height, but the aim was not to bowl a bouncer. They focused on bowling straighter at the stumps and used cutters to create the variation that would make the batsmen work hard. In conditions where genuine nicks were few, those pacemen got more batsmen bowled and more caught in front of square.

Of course, there's also the South African special; they might just luck their way into a pitch that holds a little early movement for the pacemen. Planning for that one might take a little

Reverse swing along with the stuff the quicks used in 04/05 is how AUS should bowl in this series. Which based on historical evidence of how all fast-bowling attacks have won/drawn in India since they became a force @ home (Windies 83/84, AUS 04/05, SA 2000/01, SA 07/08 & 09/10, 96/97, ENG 05/06, PAK 98/99), thats a recipe for success.

Plus its not as if the AUS quicks would be incapable of taking wickets with the new-ball in IND. Even if the scenario as you suggested where IND are 130/0 after 40 overs. If reverse swing starts going @ the 40th over - AUS could easily reduce IND to 250/6 for eg & get themselves right back into the match.

So again i dont think AUS fans should be worried about anything.
 
War just curious, I see you using the term "we" when you are talking about England and Australia.

I'm not a big fan of self-association with sports to begin with but 2 teams man? and that too fierce rivals?

Pick a side please :p
 
Wow Hussey and Katich both have played the same amout of matches (52) and have the same amount of runs in test cricket (3981) Hussey with the greater highest score and average with more not outs...
 
Well I will surely rate India's chances higher but chances of draw are even greater. India are out of form with the bowl to say the least and if Australian bowlers won't be able to pick Indian wickets, the match is a draw.

India have the upper hand with nearly all their batsmen in prime form except Gauti and might be Dhoni. What India need is Zak to click along with the spinner(bhajji/Ojha) That would be enough I think. India should go in with 3 seamers.

Australia's chances aren't looking too bright I'd say. I am predicting and 1-0 win to India.
 
I'll bet you that the pitch is Bangalore will be close to a dustbowl even if the first test is drawn. I think the only way we get to see a normal pitch in Bangalore is if India win the first test convincingly.

Dustbowls in India are very very rare these days which is why it has become easier for sides touring India over the past decade. SA won the first test at Nagpur earlier this year but we still made a perfectly fine wicket at Kolkata which favored the seamers on the first two days, if anything. India went on to win that test convincingly.

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I'd like to see it happen War, would be great viewing. Sehwag has gone missing vs Aus in India, no crazy big tons like vs SA or Pak, this series ould see him tee off against us.

He has only played two series against Australia at home. In 2004 he came up with one of his best test match innings at Chennai where he scored a counterattacking 155 on a track where everyone else struggled. Rain marred the final day of that test match which would have gone down as a classic had it not rained.
 
and if Australian bowlers won't be able to pick Indian wickets

I think we'll do fine, with Hilfy back in action and Bollinger bowled really well there in the ODI series. Still a question mark over our spinners, but I am quite optimistic that they won't be treated as bad as everyone saying they will.
 
I think we'll do fine, with Hilfy back in action and Bollinger bowled really well there in the ODI series. Still a question mark over our spinners, but I am quite optimistic that they won't be treated as bad as everyone saying they will.

Well I think the opposite, more because of being a die hard India fan.
I don't think Australian bowlers would find it easy to pick 20 Indian wickets, It'll be way too hard for them, for any bowling attack specially in subcontinent.

What really be important for Australia from this series is Ponting can find the form and confidence back, it will stregthen Aussies chances in Ashes.
 

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