No both teams will get benefit from this test but England will get more if they think positive. WI will look and say they got out of jail and need to perform much better.
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No both teams will get benefit from this test but England will get more if they think positive. WI will look and say they got out of jail and need to perform much better.
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Lee stop moaning, bad light was called, deal with it. We shouldn't have even been in that situation so fully deserve this result 
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I am dealing with it in my very angry way.Lee stop moaning, bad light was called, deal with it. We shouldn't have even been in that situation so fully deserve this result
http://www.planetcricket.org/forums/913286-post2.html - that is where I vented my anger at those stupid light meters. There is no better device than your eyes!!
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Lee stop moaning, bad light was called, deal with it. We shouldn't have even been in that situation so fully deserve this result
Thank you Tom, you are welcome to the West Indies mate, plenty rum and girls and music all night long
I will have the 20/20 helicopter pick you up at Lord's mate!!!
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Thank you Tom, you are welcome to the West Indies mate, plenty rum and girls and music all night long
Ok, will I need a bag or do you have flowery shirts, shorts and a hat waiting for me?
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Well played West Indies, starting to become a side with a real backbone and a bit of fight now the signs are looking good for you.
I don't think we did alot wrong and if freddie was fit then we'd have probably managed it but we didn't and we'll have to move on. First game in a long time where you cant really single out a player for not contributing. Strauss will improve as a captain with time and the future is starting to look good with a solid batting lineup and some promising young bowlers. Just need to find a striker bowler replacement for Harmy and someone in the mould of Hoggard who is my consistant, that could be Sidebottom though.
I don't think we did alot wrong and if freddie was fit then we'd have probably managed it but we didn't and we'll have to move on. First game in a long time where you cant really single out a player for not contributing. Strauss will improve as a captain with time and the future is starting to look good with a solid batting lineup and some promising young bowlers. Just need to find a striker bowler replacement for Harmy and someone in the mould of Hoggard who is my consistant, that could be Sidebottom though.
evertonfan
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me when everyone was getting all giddy about a win said:
I thank you.
It's not pessimism Dan, it's realism. I love England just as much as you do but we have a complete lack of killer instinct.
Just a bit unlucky, still two tests left in the series to turn it round and when hopefully Fred might be fit (unlikely for the next one probably). He was heroic though coming in for them last few spells, bowling at 90 mph, when obviously nowhere near fully fit. The only negative from the last session was I though Broad was a bit under-bowled towards the end.
We've had a few like that, as already said, India in 2007, and the Aussies at Old Trafford in 05, all have gone against us now. Anyway, still a very enjoyable test match, especially tonight!
We've had a few like that, as already said, India in 2007, and the Aussies at Old Trafford in 05, all have gone against us now. Anyway, still a very enjoyable test match, especially tonight!
Well I called it but at the end of the day we have to put our hands up and say well done West Indies - you were magnificent.
It isn't as if England bowled badly; the whole Windies team just got stuck in, applied themselves and made this a great test match. We can hypothesise all day about might have beens but the bottom line is the West Indies batted brilliantly and deserved to come away with a draw.
It isn't as if England bowled badly; the whole Windies team just got stuck in, applied themselves and made this a great test match. We can hypothesise all day about might have beens but the bottom line is the West Indies batted brilliantly and deserved to come away with a draw.
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I don't think everyone is really blaming the bowling I think everyone accepts that we bowled fairly well but credit to the West Indies they did well to snuffle us out.
What is to blame is the timing of the declaration we went on far, far too long especially as we knew rain might be a possibility.
What is to blame is the timing of the declaration we went on far, far too long especially as we knew rain might be a possibility.
See my earlier posts on this including at the start of play today and at the time.
I agree to a large extend with what Lee has been saying. We were too defensive, we were too scarred by Mumbai and we were treating this Windies team with too much respect.
To give credit where credit is due they batted our 4 1/2 sessions on a wearing pitch and fought incredibly hard.
Incidentally massive credit to the groundstaff too. Everyone assumed the pitch would fall apart after two days as it was under-prepared but they've shown once again that Antigua pitches are made to last the distance.
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Yeah credit to the West Indies for the way they batted.
We should of declared much earlier than we did since they wouldn't get 450 and so they didn't. Its a shame since the bowlers all bowled brilliantly with no reward on a flat pitch. Flintoff was excellent considering his injury and he deserved a wicket in that innings to give England a win.
Somehow we need to win the next two tests. Flintoff probably won't be fit to play and I would go for Bopara, who can bat at 6 and provide a bowling option. He's not Flintoff but he can do a job with the ball with Collingwood. Ian Bell is short of form and confidence at the moment at the moment so I wouldn't play him and I wouldn't pick Rashid since the pitch doesn't spin at Barbados and it would be a tough ask for him to fill the all rounder role with England needing to win the next two tests.
We should of declared much earlier than we did since they wouldn't get 450 and so they didn't. Its a shame since the bowlers all bowled brilliantly with no reward on a flat pitch. Flintoff was excellent considering his injury and he deserved a wicket in that innings to give England a win.
Somehow we need to win the next two tests. Flintoff probably won't be fit to play and I would go for Bopara, who can bat at 6 and provide a bowling option. He's not Flintoff but he can do a job with the ball with Collingwood. Ian Bell is short of form and confidence at the moment at the moment so I wouldn't play him and I wouldn't pick Rashid since the pitch doesn't spin at Barbados and it would be a tough ask for him to fill the all rounder role with England needing to win the next two tests.
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