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Well at least he has gone around the country & attempted to find some answers & all do seem fairly achievable.

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the homegrown rule won't work. it's against the law to cap players from the EU and EPL clubs scout out foreign players when they're teenagers so they count as homegrown.

the question is, does it matter? Ramsey and Bale came through the english youth system in a way that's indistinguishable from an english player, yuo chuck them in your national team. ok, you're maybe a CB and GK short of being sorted, but you're all of sudden imo potential world cup winners. it's just a bit unlucky more than a fatal flaw in the system. still, if you want to cut the premierships foreign draw wage caps is the only way of doing it.

the loan idea though is good if it can be implemented. the only thing I would dispute there is the football on the cirriculum thing. why the hell should it be on the cirriculum? it's not the be all and end all and quite a lot of people don't give a toss about it. it should be better offered to kids though with trained coaches.

incidently, here was my idea. I wondered if the FA should take control of the youth coaching, why can't they organise teams and leagues in the UK themselves? why does it have to be boys brigade football teams and local parents who are passionate, and then professional clubs taking over after trials? the thing about england is, it's got a unique problem, there is so much money in the EPL it's flooded with foreign players. however, the volume of money on hand means they could afford to play around with unique solutions. set up their own leagues, employ the coaches for them, hell, then hold drafts or something like in america where the bottom team gets the first pick or just draft them to championship. (don't see any reason to give the big clubs another helping hand with youth development when they already hold all the aces) wouldn't it be handy if the FA had the final say on where a hugely promising 17 year old signed his first 4 year contract? massive amount of work to implement, but why not?
 
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Poor performance all round, very few clear cut chances created. Chile were worthy winners tonight, loved the way they kept the ball although our lack of closing down quickly enough probably didn't help.
 
Poor performance all round, very few clear cut chances created. Chile were worthy winners tonight, loved the way they kept the ball although our lack of closing down quickly enough probably didn't help.

Very, very poor. This is the concern - we come up against a half decent team and we look very ordinary. And on Tuesday, we get the Germans.

I just hope we don't get a Group of Death, because that could be really embarrassing.
 
Yeah really looking forward to the Germans on Tuesday, I think we'll play better and up our game against them.
 
Saw the first hour, one tactical thing about ENG that struct me is how important guys like Townsend & Walcott are to how ENG play basically.

Also central defence back-ups could still be an issue & i'd say its a deficiency ENG will take to the world cup. This is why calls for Terry to be recalled will remain strong throughout the season -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2508258/John-Terry-needs-coaxed-international-retirement--stats-revealed.htmll. Phil Jones is talented but if he is not going to play center half all season for United, i'd say Hodgson should consider him versatility to play defensive mid-field and right-back only.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/thematch/id/880?cc=3888 - As i've mentioned before & others have picked up on, Lampard really can't go to world cup, he always look anonymous. Doesn't have the sting to pop up in the box to score those trademark goals & can't play the deep role well. Only Gerrard/Carrick should be the over 30 mid-fielders in the squad.

Having watched much of the the S American qualifiers, Chile played how i expected them to play, risky defending but lethal on on the counter. A style EURO teams would not be accustomed to.

Instead of playing Denmark in March, ENG should try and play either Colombia, Argentina, Ecuador, Uruguay or Peru.
 
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We know ENG's limitations so one should ignore any potential media bashing after the defeat.

Townsend hit the post & i was generally happy with ENGs mid-field play, we just lacked the cutting in the final third compared to the qualifiers vs Montenegro & Poland. Rooney was a bit off in these two games, similarly sturridge.

Lallana once he maintains his Southampton form will almost certainly go to world cup.

However once again wasn't too happy with certain aspects of the defence. Smalling blew hot & cold next to Jaigelka, following Cahill's poor game vs Chile. The idea of recalling Terry to partner Jagielka will grow stronger throughout the season - but the more i think about its probably unrealistic to recall him given the reasons for his retirement. Unlike Ferdinand who Hodgson did recall, Terry was banned by the FA.

So instead i think Dawson & Caulker really have to be picked because they like Jagielka may end up being the only ENG defenders who will be playing every week for their clubs this season. For me that will count for A LOT because i worry that despite their talent the fact that Smalling & Jones will be rotating instead of having a settled position could slow down their progress.

Walker while being superb going forward still is vulnerable defending especially his positioning. All he is good at currently is using his pace to recover his bad positions. He will need to watch it, especially with Nathaniel Clyne pushing hard to be # 2 right back to Johnson.

Really would like a South American opponent like Peru, Uruguay, Argentina, Colombia, Ecauador to pace in March friendly instead of Denmark. Don't know if its possible to make a change now, but playing them will teach ENG nothing, but another experience facing South American opposition before Brazil could be invaluable.

England face possibility of being placed in a World Cup 'group of death' now qualifying is complete - World Cup 2014 - Football - The Independent

Yes i've always feared this could happen.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2510293/England-set-Miami-friendly-eve-2014-World-Cup--Charles-Sale.html - England set for Miami friendly on eve of 2014 World Cup
 
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BTW saw on espnfc show that their reliable stats people projected that according to seeds a probable ENG group could be: Argentina, England, Japan, Cameroon.
 
 
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That was the worst England v Germany match I have ever seen! It was dire to watch. England did OK and we probably deserved a draw, but Germany's goal was down to really bad defending on our part.

Sure, they didn't thrash us, but you've also got to remember that last time we played them, it actually mattered. ;)
 
the homegrown rule won't work. it's against the law to cap players from the EU and EPL clubs scout out foreign players when they're teenagers so they count as homegrown.

the question is, does it matter? Ramsey and Bale came through the english youth system in a way that's indistinguishable from an english player, yuo chuck them in your national team. ok, you're maybe a CB and GK short of being sorted, but you're all of sudden imo potential world cup winners. it's just a bit unlucky more than a fatal flaw in the system. still, if you want to cut the premierships foreign draw wage caps is the only way of doing it.

the loan idea though is good if it can be implemented. the only thing I would dispute there is the football on the cirriculum thing. why the hell should it be on the cirriculum? it's not the be all and end all and quite a lot of people don't give a toss about it. it should be better offered to kids though with trained coaches.

incidently, here was my idea. I wondered if the FA should take control of the youth coaching, why can't they organise teams and leagues in the UK themselves? why does it have to be boys brigade football teams and local parents who are passionate, and then professional clubs taking over after trials? the thing about england is, it's got a unique problem, there is so much money in the EPL it's flooded with foreign players. however, the volume of money on hand means they could afford to play around with unique solutions. set up their own leagues, employ the coaches for them, hell, then hold drafts or something like in america where the bottom team gets the first pick or just draft them to championship. (don't see any reason to give the big clubs another helping hand with youth development when they already hold all the aces) wouldn't it be handy if the FA had the final say on where a hugely promising 17 year old signed his first 4 year contract? massive amount of work to implement, but why not?

Ha well as i always had said throughout my life, if FIFA have never allowed Wales international status in football (since Wales is part of ENG when it comes to cricket for eg and some other sports), despite the identity the have similar to the Catalan part of Spain - ENG at various times of its history could have had some additional top players. As you say add Bale & Ramsey right now & ENG attacking strength would be real deadly.

On why the FA doesn't take control of coaching, well that one of the problems St.George's Park was built to eventually eradicate. We have generally seen the figures explaining how less top uefa licensed coaches ENG have compared to other top EURO teams.

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That was the worst England v Germany match I have ever seen! It was dire to watch. England did OK and we probably deserved a draw, but Germany's goal was down to really bad defending on our part.

Sure, they didn't thrash us, but you've also got to remember that last time we played them, it actually mattered. ;)

The thing that stood out for me (although most probably expected this) is how far Germany's back up mid-field talent is ahead of us. When you watch guys like Gotze, Muller, Bender, Reus, Draxler, Schurle play you can see that "next level" in their ability compared to our guys in Cleverley, Henderson, Rodriguez, Milner.

The only ENG young ballers that exhibit that kind of flair other than Wilshere in the premiership Barkely, Towsend and Morrison (Lallana &Ward-Prowse a little bit). Due to this it was a surprise Cleverley started instead of Barkely for me & it should give Hodgson and indication of which guys (once injuries don't force his hand) not to take to Brazil.
 
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