England Tour Of Bangladesh 2010
- Thread starter Ayub 95
- Start date
angryangy
ICC Chairman
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2004
7th 400+ total for them, 2nd this year. Good stuff indeed.
Highest p'ship of the match came at #10. Which shouldnt have been the case.
please use the new ball, dont bowl spin already!! lets not over do spin! let Rubel and Shaiful use it while its new.
MacLovin added 10 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...
Shafiul, the fast bowler of the match. Eng's fastest 83.something. Shafiul bowling around 85-86. fastest 86.1, avg 84.
LOL 50 effects. Charged up now. Nice!
please use the new ball, dont bowl spin already!! lets not over do spin! let Rubel and Shaiful use it while its new.
MacLovin added 10 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...
Shafiul, the fast bowler of the match. Eng's fastest 83.something. Shafiul bowling around 85-86. fastest 86.1, avg 84.
LOL 50 effects. Charged up now. Nice!
I was thinking more in terms of not being frontline and making the middle/lower order look long. It may not matter, what England are probably counting on a bit, expecting us to be something like 350/3 which is assuming a lot and expecting nothing to go badly wrong
Makes me laugh, TMS had the Bangles' tail down as knock over quickly material and they put up a fight. The scenario I painted is well and truly possible, England will have to set sights on probably 500+ and the decision to play five bowlers looks to have backfired. Of the 117.1 overs bowled, Finn bowled a whopping TEN - 10-2-61-1 - so England obviously thought that one through carefully. What's that make his Test average now, having played only the bottom ranked current Test nation he has three wickets @ 52 each
We'll be better placed to comment on the Bangles' efforts when England have batted, one good score of 85 at the top but SIX falling/scoring between 39 and 59, if that had been England we'd be talking about getting in and not going on to make a big score. I bet poor old Carberry must be wondering if he'll get another cap, still looks like Finn, Bresnan and Trott who could just as easily missed out and arguably should have are making most of their second chance - not!
Which leaves an out of form Trott having to adjust to a new batting role, KP in one innings form and a long-ish looking middle-lower order of Prior, Broad, Bresnan, Swann, Tredwell and Finn - and having to bat last.
If the Bangles can get three down by 100 on the board then I reckon England could easily lose this! The bowling is basically Swann (14 wickets) and an ordinary supporting cast, England need to assert themselves with the bat and I think they made too many assumptions based on the 1st Test where they batted first and made 599. They seemed to approach the 1st Test as if it was a serious contest, why then did they not keep the batting 'strength' of six batsmen and look to secure the draw and 1-0 series win before poncing about with five bowler theory?
KP is on for 5000 runs in Test cricket, needs to reach 45 so is/was 10 short at tea
England somewhat grinding away at the deficit, not a big surprise given both batsmen were out of form in South Africa and Trott isn't an opener
Trott : 28no,14,39,8,5,42,20,18,69,28 = 271 runs @ 30.11
One fifty in his last 10 innings including this one, averaging 27 in his previous nine innings. He's reached 20 in SIX of his last 10 innings including this one, reached 50 only once and so it was always likely he'd grind just like if Carberry had opened he'd grind away to try and find form out in the middle to save his England career
Pietersen : 35no,32,99,12,7,6,0,31,81,40,44,32,8 = 427 runs @ 35.58
For him that is very average indeed, no Test hundred for over a year (06/03/09 vs West Indies in West Indies) and only two fifties. If he doesn't make a hundred in this Test that will make it FOUR series in a row without a hundred, before that only in two series had he failed to make a hundred. If he makes (another) fifty then at least that will avoid three series in a row with a solitary fifty
England somewhat grinding away at the deficit, not a big surprise given both batsmen were out of form in South Africa and Trott isn't an opener
Trott : 28no,14,39,8,5,42,20,18,69,28 = 271 runs @ 30.11
One fifty in his last 10 innings including this one, averaging 27 in his previous nine innings. He's reached 20 in SIX of his last 10 innings including this one, reached 50 only once and so it was always likely he'd grind just like if Carberry had opened he'd grind away to try and find form out in the middle to save his England career
Pietersen : 35no,32,99,12,7,6,0,31,81,40,44,32,8 = 427 runs @ 35.58
For him that is very average indeed, no Test hundred for over a year (06/03/09 vs West Indies in West Indies) and only two fifties. If he doesn't make a hundred in this Test that will make it FOUR series in a row without a hundred, before that only in two series had he failed to make a hundred. If he makes (another) fifty then at least that will avoid three series in a row with a solitary fifty
KP out, could well be "game on". England with 'out of form' Trott still in, Bell and Collingwood to come in and then Prior, Swann, Broad and the lower order.
England won't be wanting to be many behind if they have to bat last, Bangles are bound to make 150+ 2nd innings so England won't be wanting to chase much more than 200. Bit surprised it's PC and not IB, would have thought Colly was the one to bat with the tail
England won't be wanting to be many behind if they have to bat last, Bangles are bound to make 150+ 2nd innings so England won't be wanting to chase much more than 200. Bit surprised it's PC and not IB, would have thought Colly was the one to bat with the tail
P
pcfan123
Guest
Odds after the Colly wicket
Bangladesh 5/1 England 7/4 Draw 5/6
Bangla started out as 12/1 favorites! Interesting to see that England are positive to win. The bookies backing this one to draw. Lots of money will be lost if it does.
When would you ever see England almost 2/1 to beat Bangladesh in a Test match!
England are the only team never to lose a limited overs match to Bangladesh, will they be the 1st (major nation) to lose a Test!
Bangladesh 5/1 England 7/4 Draw 5/6
Bangla started out as 12/1 favorites! Interesting to see that England are positive to win. The bookies backing this one to draw. Lots of money will be lost if it does.
When would you ever see England almost 2/1 to beat Bangladesh in a Test match!
England are the only team never to lose a limited overs match to Bangladesh, will they be the 1st (major nation) to lose a Test!
Highlander999
ICC President
- Joined
- Apr 15, 2006
- Location
- London
Need centuries from 2 of either Bell, Trott and Prior. Jeez, things don't look good for us
P
pcfan123
Guest
Trotts been batting for the draw since he got there :laugh
Lets see how Bell goes, he is not exactly a century maker when the going is tough.
Lets see how Bell goes, he is not exactly a century maker when the going is tough.
Could be our Zimbabwe 92, although that was a full strength ODI XI and this is three bowlers with less than 20 wickets between them and the bizarre decision to play only five batsmen to accomodate an inexperienced spinner. So not only are we down on batting strength, but we're also not exactly the best attack in the world. A draw is a decent bet from here, that or a deshi win.
Colly out for a duck, I said 100/3 and we'd be in trouble and we are. I sent an e-mail to TMS entitled 'writing on the wall?' and I think it is proving all too apt a title
Owzat added 7 Minutes and 27 Seconds later...
A chance for "icing on the cake" Bell to make some runs and be the first/only man in the side to make 100 - not exactly like Trott has a massive headstart.
That defeat against Zimbabwe, I think our first and possibly only defeat to a weak side (happened almost 18 years ago to the day this match started!) :-
England vs Zimbabwe (Lavington Sports Club 18/03/92)
Zimbabwe 134 (46.1 overs)
Houghton 29, Butchart 24.
Botham 3/23, Illingworth 3/33
England 125 (49.1 overs)
Fairbrother 20, Stewart 29.
Brandes 4/21
Zimbabwe won by nine runs.
Could be some similarities despite that being a 50-over match. For starters noone made a really big score on either side. England were in trouble from the off, only real partnership came at 43/5 when England's topscorers (as listed) added 52 runs. But then it went from 95/6 to 125 all out, just 30 runs for the last five wickets and that included the wickets of Fairbrother, Stewart, DeFreitas, Illingworth, Small and Tufnell - only Tuffers of that lot couldn't hold a bat
Owzat added 18 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...
What I love about the hate-on for Bell where he can barely score a kind word, is that Cook, Pietersen and Collingwood have done FA in this Test - 21, 45 and 0, a massive 66 runs between them - yet Bell is getting more stick before he even starts his innings! Even Trott is plodding along like his career hinges on him facing 300 balls and not how many runs he scores. Bell has gone out, been positive and we might actually reach 200 by lunchtime tomorrow!
:
StinkyBoHoon
National Board President
- Joined
- Mar 5, 2009
- Location
- Glasgow, Scotland
I think england could be in trouble if bangla manage an early wicket, if they get something to motivate them for the day they can definitely go into bat with 80 run lead or there abouts.
interesting to see iqbal in that situation, one of his fast 50s could really put BD in the driving seat.
interesting to see iqbal in that situation, one of his fast 50s could really put BD in the driving seat.
Similar threads
