England's tour of India - 2021

Our tail is a big, big problem. The opposition know that once the 6th wicket falls, it's only a matter of 10-12 overs/10-20 runs before the innings wraps up.
England after being 5 down in their first innings- 105 runs in 37.5 overs
India after being 5 down in their first innings- 145 runs in 45.1 overs

England after being 5 down in their second innings- 77 runs in 22.4 overs
India after being 5 down in their second innings- 82 runs in 18.5 overs

England tail contribution- 183 runs in 58.3 overs
India tail contribution- 227 runs in 64 overs

Hence India tail > England tail in 1st Test
@zimrahil wins and @asprin loses :p
 
Just think there’s gonna be some people who’s only experience of watching cricket is seeing England win the World Cup final and now this...

They have no idea what it’s really like!

If you don't remember Ian Salisbury's illustrious test career you weren't there man, you weren't there....
 
Why does this feel like a trick question?
Have you seen this? :p


England after being 5 down in their first innings- 105 runs in 37.5 overs
India after being 5 down in their first innings- 145 runs in 45.1 overs

England after being 5 down in their second innings- 77 runs in 22.4 overs
India after being 5 down in their second innings- 82 runs in 18.5 overs

England tail contribution- 183 runs in 58.3 overs
India tail contribution- 227 runs in 64 overs

Hence India tail > England tail in 1st Test
@zimrahil wins and @asprin loses :p
Anyway.....ummm......1 - 0.....? :D
 
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I am not really surprised that Root have managed to score massively against the Indians. He is as good a nemeses as Alastair Cook or a Jacques Kallis was or a Steve Smith is. He has a 50 on debut and managed 4 centuries in 5 matches the last 2 series that he played against the Indians in India. He would keep piling on those runs whatsoever the Indian bowling does.
Yep Joe loves flat sub continental decks. Averages almost @60 in India and Sri lanka. I note that his spin play has improved over the years so he now has all the ammunition to combat anything thrown at him. He is employing the reverse sweep with great success too. The old Test purists would turn in their selective graves to see today's Test batsmen playing that shot.
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that Silverwood has replaced Trevor Bayliss
Now Bayliss can resume his coaching tenure at CricketNSW.
 
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As soon as Silverwood came in we brought in Sibley and Crawley, both players who like to occupy the crease for long periods of time. Definitely a clear change of plan and we're much more competitive as a result.
Silverwood appears to have transformed your batting. Brittle as glass not too long ago. Too many blokes weened on white ball with little red ball technical know how. You now have batsmen whose aim is to put a steep price on his wicket. Our cricket bosses still pick those same white ballers whose weak red ball ability often has then failing and putting those to follow under tons of pressure . Thankfully they are starting to see the lite with the emergence of Cameron Green and Will Pucovski.. two batmsen who thrive on occupying the crease. Now we need a solid pair of openers to take us into the next decade and beyond.
 
England after being 5 down in their first innings- 105 runs in 37.5 overs
India after being 5 down in their first innings- 145 runs in 45.1 overs

England after being 5 down in their second innings- 77 runs in 22.4 overs
India after being 5 down in their second innings- 82 runs in 18.5 overs

England tail contribution- 183 runs in 58.3 overs
India tail contribution- 227 runs in 64 overs

Hence India tail > England tail in 1st Test
@zimrahil wins and @asprin loses :p
Have you seen this? :p

Let's meet again after the 4th Test :wave
 
Rumours are rife that the pitch for the 2nd Test will turn from Day 1. Not sure if that's a great idea given how vulnerable our batsmen have been against spin since the last 3-5 years. Could backfire big time.
 
Yep Joe loves flat sub continental decks. Averages almost @60 in India and Sri lanka. I note that his spin play has improved over the years so he now has all the ammunition to combat anything thrown at him. He is employing the reverse sweep with great success too. The old Test purists would turn in their selective graves to see today's Test batsmen playing that shot.
I disagree to this. Even if you would give him a turning pitch against the Indians he is going to come good. There are certain players whom India always find difficult to get out. Root is one such player.
 
India have the best players in the world, but I'd hesitate to say they are the best team all the time

Also, it's not a bogus format just because it doesn't necessarily put India in the final

India have won test matches practically anywhere in the world. If you think I base my opinions on India's qualification or not isn't my problem, just your assumption without reading my posts.
 
I think the Buttler thing is just to give all format players a test from the bubble and avoid breakdown. Timing does seem odd though after just 1 test

I just feel he knows the Indian players so well and he's exactly the circuit breaker the team needs. I've seen him tear the spinners apart so it's a miss in my opinion. I would have definitely rested him in the white ball stuff.

The bubble is merciless. We have a guy called Kuldeep Yadav who was touted by our coach as our number 1 spinner and he's been in the bubble for 6 months and he hasn't played a game yet.
 
Ok, so as expected we folded out and continued playing as we were playing in Australia. I know I will be crucified for saying this but, we are struggling and if no one is seeing that, you are part of the problem as well.

Why is Rohit still opening and being preferred over actual openers in KL and Mayank. he played one good innings and has played below par Rohit inning. Not all players are meant to be test players. Yuvraj was one example, Gill will get better with time. He has the potential but has to work on his game to play longer innings. You have all the talent, use it wisely.

Pujara is doing what he does. No complaints there,. Kohli played a good second innings but something is changed in the way he plays these days. He is no longer ruthless.

lets talk about the elephant in the room. Ajinkya Rahane!! Yes he captained better compared to Kohli, he did good in an inning in Melbourne, but he has played below par. His position in the team should be questioned. We have enough talent in domestic cricket and no one player should hold up space when they are under performinng.

Pant will play like he has played. If we want him to play like that, we need a cushion of someone playing better and longer innings compared to what Rahane is playing. If Rahane gets back into form, Pant playing the way he has been would be ok.

No, please dont say we dint play that bad. We played poorly. As a home team, we were more under prepared compared to England. We had zero plans and just were riding on the confidence of the Australia series.

Also, Australia was a mediocre team. They had 3-4 players who perfomed. England has 5-6 rockstars who will perform. I see England winning this series. Kohli the captain has no clue and plans and that is hurting Indian team right now. The day night match is England’s game as well.

I am not going to crucify you because everyone has an opinion but I do disagree with a few things. I think we are playing really well and we have a pool of fantastic young/established/world class players. The problem is more around the administration and the management which is a choice of the captain and it has been discussed to death. It all trickles down from that main power board so everything needs to be seen collectively and not in isolation and that includes the battery of fast bowlers along with the ruthless desire to win beginning at the helm.

1) Rohit's selection was complicated just because of the selectors. As much as I am against Kohli the captain, he followed all the protocols and it was first Rohit and then the selectors that really messed up. Once he was in Australia, he had to be picked because of his stature in Indian cricket which I agree and acknowledge. Should he have replaced Mayank? NO! Not even if Monk had failed up to this test. If a bloke is making a thousand runs in 15 tests, I don't see how you drop him specially as an opener!!

2) Kohli played a marvellous knock in the second innings and really, what does he do to the ball he got out on? He played a fine knock in the first innings at Adelaide and he got out there through no fault of his own. That's two centuries gone and the whole conversation changes. One thing I will definitely say is that while I don't agree that he's lost any of that ruthless instinct, I do think he's become very tentative in some situations, specially at the start of his innings. I don't think it needs any major overhaul but I do think that it's just a mindset thing and not being captain will really help this. I personally do feel he's feeling the burden a tad now.

3) Rahane bats at a very tricky number in tests. It's a bit of neither this nor that. He has over time batted a lot with Vihari and Saha which means he needs to wrestle the initiative and attack while sometimes he bats with Kohli who dominates the strike at at least 60-40 when he's ticking. If not that then he's with Pujara and as you said, Pujara is Pujara. Rahane is just fine. I think he's someone who should have a crucial innings column like Jadeja and you'll see that it outweighs a ton of tons. No pun intended. I think even thinking of dispensing with him is madness. Same with Kohli. Same with Pujara. We've spent half a decade building this batting line up and now is the time to cash in.

I'll repeat that we played well. One or two poor shots from the top order and a toss which was crucial to win. To top it all, Root and Anderson bought their absolute A game. Australia is not a mediocre team by far, definitely not in Australia although I do rate England higher. Remember, England couldn't win the Ashes at home recently because they were so spent after the World Cup and I think it's the same with India with a bubble to adhere to, to boot. England have prepared well for this series and I wouldn't be surprised if they level the series. Win? I would say it's very difficult but even then I wouldn't change much with our side. Sometimes, you try your best and fail and you just say well done to England and this England side, like this Indian side could have dominated this decade of cricket. Lots of unfulfilled potential.

Our cricket needs just one change and that is with the captaincy across formats. That's all. We should all also respect Kohli's batting a lot more than we do because we will miss/remember it once he hangs up his boots. He is class unparalleled and I think he's at heart a really good bloke. He's just no leader and definitely not a captain/tactician.
 
T20 squad has been announced for the series after the tests.

Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Tom Curran (Surrey), Chris Jordan (Sussex), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Reece Topley (Surrey), Mark Wood (Durham)

Interestingly, no Banton, no Vince who smashed it around in the Bash, obviously no Hales still.

I'm guessing as it's time for proper preparation for the World Cup they'll go full strength.

Roy
Buttler
Malan
Bairstow
Stokes
Morgan
Ali
Rashid
Archer
Two from T Curran/S Curran/Jordan/Wood
 

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