English Football Thread 2012/2013

Who will win the 2012/13 Premier League?

  • Manchester City

    Votes: 9 25.0%
  • Manchester Utd

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • Arsenal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spurs

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Newcastle

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Chelsea

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • Everton

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Total voters
    36
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:clap to the city players,I've never seen such dedication from a team.
 
All the City-haters. Get over it and show a bit of humility and graciousness. How you react in defeat says more about you as a club than how you react to success.

As I said a while back, if City win the title as they have, then the team has my congratulations - no matter how the team was built, they still had to go out there and get the job done, which they did by the skin of their teeth. But I will never agree with how the title win came about - how the team was built. But that's football these days, money, money, money. It's crazy. Sooner or later there will be a situation similar to Italian football years back.

Wow - just seen the stat about shots from City on QPR's goal, that is an achievement in itself! They couldn't have had more shots if they were armed with machineguns. :)
 
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First you bought tevez.
Then you bought silva.
Then you bought dzeko.
Then you bought balotelli.
Then you bought aguero.
Then you bought nasri.
Liverpool bought carroll,suarez and downing.
Can you mention me a young player who grew up to be a star in your team.?
Arsenal-Wilshere
Liverpool-Sterling
Chelsea-Mceachran
United-Cleverley
City-..??
@Sattar-I always expected that answer from a REAL SCHOOL BOY CRICKETER.! :P
your signature is so DENCH.!

City - Richards...

You're a moron, fact. The facts are supported by the evidence which in this case is saying Sterling counts as a star. Also Wilshere hasn't played for a year and McEachran spent the year on loan at Swansea. Cleverly is still some way from being a star as well.

Richards on the other hand is the starting right back for the current Premiership champions. Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm bothering since your post already highlighted you as an idiot.
 
Cleverly isn't a star yet, but he will be. As for Richards, he's come on leaps and bounds - I hope he continues it for England this summer. :)
 
To use a metaphor for Utd fans complaining that City have used that terrible thing money. It's like old conservatives and aristocracy being appalled that some new upwardly mobile working/middle class has dared to challenge their position of dominance.

Of course they moan and shout about how unfair it is that their previous position of financial and social dominance could even be threatened.
 
First you bought tevez.
Then you bought silva.
Then you bought dzeko.
Then you bought balotelli.
Then you bought aguero.
Then you bought nasri.
Liverpool bought carroll,suarez and downing.
Can you mention me a young player who grew up to be a star in your team.?
Arsenal-Wilshere
Liverpool-Sterling
Chelsea-Mceachran
United-Cleverley
City-..??
@Sattar-I always expected that answer from a REAL SCHOOL BOY CRICKETER.! :P
your signature is so DENCH.!



If you consider this, Richards grew up to be a star at City. Although he's going to be 24 next month.



But yes, City did spend lots of money on lots of players. Consider adding Adebayor, Lescott, K. Toure, Santa Cruz, J. Boateng, Bridge, SWP and some more to your list. They did not buy the right players all the time to deserve praise.

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Oops, puddleduck already said Richards. Should've posted this long ago, but went away for sometime.

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And do the players on your starlist deserve their status? I do not think so.
 
To use a metaphor for Utd fans complaining that City have used that terrible thing money. It's like old conservatives and aristocracy being appalled that some new upwardly mobile working/middle class has dared to challenge their position of dominance.

Of course they moan and shout about how unfair it is that their previous position of financial and social dominance could even be threatened.

It's unfair because of the way it's been threatened. We were ticking along nicely thank you very much, before the Gormless Glazers came along. We blocked the Rupert Murdoch takeover back in the 90s, why the heck couldn't we block this one as well - which has done has done nothing but damage the club. And if we do get taken over, we'll just be tainted with the same brush as City - even though it would basically just put us back where we were before the Glazers - that is having the financial clout to sign who we wanted.

But having said that, there were many transfer windows where I was wondering 'when are we going to buy someone'? I might be wildly mistaken, but I don't ever remember us basically buying the entire midfield and strike force in one transfer window - unless you count the emergence of the 'Fergie Fledglings' of course. ;)
 
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@Puddleduck-In case of wilshere,he was injured, plus for united if you don't agree with cleverley,what about pogba.?
Mceachran-I really think he wasted his time in swansea but still he has the ability to go through defenders with his superb ball control.
I agree about richards,what about other players.?
TBH,Your a typical sc*m.
*I don't want to have a discussion with you*
 
Now I know how Kuffour, Matth?us and the other Bayern players felt... :(

Well, a bit of an idea at least. After all, we're just fans and not actually out there on the pitch - but I know what you mean. ;)

Still, that image of Kuffour bashing the ground and Matthaus pulling off his loser's medal will always bring a smile to my face. :)

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@Puddleduck-In case of wilshere,he was injured, plus for united if you don't agree with cleverley,what about pogba.?
Mceachran-I really think he wasted his time in swansea but still he has the ability to go through defenders with his superb ball control.
I agree about richards,what about other players.?
TBH,Your a typical sc*m.
*I don't want to have a discussion with you*

Pogba didn't stick around long enough for me to see that much of him. ;)
 
@Puddleduck-In case of wilshere,he was injured, plus for united if you don't agree with cleverley,what about pogba.?
Mceachran-I really think he wasted his time in swansea but still he has the ability to go through defenders with his superb ball control.
I agree about richards,what about other players.?
TBH,Your a typical sc*m.
*I don't want to have a discussion with you*

What about Boyata, Weiss?

You mean Pogba is a better player than Cleverley? And Wilshere was injured because of burnout, he will surely become a star in the future, but he's not a star now.
 
That was last season, and judging a player by just one season is not right, whether he did do good or bad that season.

And that same logic applies to City.
 
@Puddleduck-In case of wilshere,he was injured, plus for united if you don't agree with cleverley,what about pogba.?
Mceachran-I really think he wasted his time in swansea but still he has the ability to go through defenders with his superb ball control.
I agree about richards,what about other players.?
TBH,Your a typical sc*m.
*I don't want to have a discussion with you*

Actually you're a typical moron haha I'm a Spurs fan so I can look at the whingeing from Man U fans with a certain degree of impartiality. Anyone who puts forward players who for whatever reason have barely played this year as reasons those clubs have some kind of more legitimate claim to the title than a club that has brought through their own right back and despite signing him at a young age have also invested considerable time in their goalkeeper is being deliberately blind.
 
I'm not saying that we'd had a more legitimate claim to the title if Vidic wasn't missing for half the season, I'm saying we'd would've lost/drawn less games with him in the team. Vidic and Ferdinand has always been a vital part of the team - without that partnership, the defence just doesn't look as good. Evans has come on in leaps and bounds, but he's missed a few very important games - through no fault of his own of course. Smalling will be a great defender, as will Jones but like Evans, they're young. Vidic is experienced and was a real miss for us. Also you have to remember that our keeper was just bedding into English football as well - let's be honest, for the first few months of the season, he was a bit of a liability. Not that I'm landing all the blame for the loss at his feet, but it's a fact that some of his goalkeeping mistakes have cost us dear today. It's not just one player though, it's the whole team getting too complacent when we went eight points clear. Going that far clear was the worst thing that could've happened in hindsight.

When all is said and done, City have won today because of their ruthless nature in front of goal - goal difference is what separated the two teams. Sure, we let them back in with the Wigan result, but WHAM - they put four past WBA, then BANG - they put six past Norwich: ten goals in two games. I'm not too sure, but had those been 1-0s, maybe the G/D would've favoured us today. That's something we have to display next season - and the way to do that is a good, attacking midfielder allied with some midfield steel. Speaking of which, Fletcher's been a bit of a miss as well - but there's the problem. Without Fletcher, there's very little 'bite' to our midfield. That's not the case with City. So I'm not too sure why we're looking at Hazard. The strikeforce is fine, the wings are looking marvellous and, with Vidic back, the defence is solid. No, the weak link is the midfield.

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What about Boyata, Weiss?

You mean Pogba is a better player than Cleverley? And Wilshere was injured because of burnout, he will surely become a star in the future, but he's not a star now.

From what I've seen, which admittedly isn't much, Cleverly's a better player than Pogba but time will tell. Of course, I hope Cleverly comes through because a) he's a Utd player and b) he can play for England.

We don't have to go mad - we don't have to do what City did, which is a good thing because we haven't got their financial power. All we need is two good midfielders - one playmaker and one ball winner.

Anyway, congrats to the City fans who have been waiting for a long time. As for those who have jumped on the bandwagon at the same time Mansour did...
 
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