English Football Thread 2012/2013

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Savic for Nastasic has got be one of the bargains of the Summer, quality defender he is, 19 and still already better than Lescott.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

lescott was amazing for us. never really made it as city which is a surprise as he is a fantastic player. and with this silly obsession with possession football i'm surprised he isn't mentioned more in relation to england. better option than jagielka.

 

[thedon5]

He's a great player, but 15 million plus Savic isn't exactly a bargain, I think you are getting what you paid for more like it.

Plus, Savic isn't worth nothing or anything. He perhaps found it tough to settle in at Man City, he has been impressive so far at Fiorentina though. So it's significantly more than 15 million actually.

 

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He's a great player, but 15 million plus Savic isn't exactly a bargain, I think you are getting what you paid for more like it.

Plus, Savic isn't worth nothing or anything. He perhaps found it tough to settle in at Man City, he has been impressive so far at Fiorentina though. So it's significantly more than 15 million actually.

Oh lol, wasn't aware of the undisclosed fee, thought it was just a straight swap for Nastasic, this definitely makes more sense.

 

[thedon5]

I'm sure any other team could've gotten him for 10 m plus Savic, maybe less. Fact is it's Man City, they probably squeezed as much out of the sale as possible. So I suppose for Man City standards, it is a bargain.

 

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That's always going to be the case really, clubs are always going to look to rob the likes of Chelsea/City/PSG, but hey, that's what we get for ruining the sport right.

 

[War]

BBC Sport - Gay footballers would be accepted - Gareth Southgate

Ha no way. The day a football player comes out and says he is gay, especially in the premiership - he would get so much abuse from the crowd he wouldn't be able to concentrate on his game.

I can recall how chelsea's graeme le saux (who wasn't gay) used to get taunted by some fans & be even players (robbie fowler) because some people that he was gay because of very posh behaviour.

 

[thedon5]

There is one in Brazil, Richarlyson who has come out. I don't think it's gone too well for him, so I agree gay footballers definitely wouldn't really be accepted.

Apparently there is one anonymous gay player in the Bundesliga who says he has to live a lie every day that he is straight.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

I don't think they're particularly worried about the fans, afterall, players get any slightly embarassing piece of their history brought up all the time in chants. rooney's granny shagging, etc I doubt the racism problem in eastern europe is going to stop any black player stepping out on to the pitch.

Richarlyson's experience has been bad because south america on the whole is a lot more homophobic than western europe (when he filed a lawsuit against a guy that had insulted him the judge said he should be banned from playing football because football is masculine and not for homosexuals!!!!)

I think, from things I've heard, it's the dressing room that worries them. they don't want to be ostracized from the team, either the players or managers, and are also worried about what it could do to their ability to find a new club should they need to. If this wasn't the case then I imagine there would be a lot more gay players known of, even if their identities were hidden from the general public.

 

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Funny you guys bring this up, the other day I saw on article on Guardian titled "Lindegaard: Game needs gay hero" or something along those lines, didn't read into it, but I bet I can find it.

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Manchester United's Anders Lindegaard says game needs 'gay hero' | Marcus Christenson | Football | guardian.co.uk

There.

 

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Very early to suggest it, but that performance was sublime. Anyone reckon the Swans may be able to do a Newcastle this season? Seems more likely than a relegation battle now.

After what went down today, yes, what a buy Michu has been, bargain of the season for sure.

 

[Bevab]

Yeah, made a huge difference in an otherwise close game.

 

[War]

I don't think they're particularly worried about the fans, afterall, players get any slightly embarassing piece of their history brought up all the time in chants. rooney's granny shagging, etc I doubt the racism problem in eastern europe is going to stop any black player stepping out on to the pitch.

Richarlyson's experience has been bad because south america on the whole is a lot more homophobic than western europe (when he filed a lawsuit against a guy that had insulted him the judge said he should be banned from playing football because football is masculine and not for homosexuals!!!!)

I think, from things I've heard, it's the dressing room that worries them. they don't want to be ostracized from the team, either the players or managers, and are also worried about what it could do to their ability to find a new club should they need to. If this wasn't the case then I imagine there would be a lot more gay players known of, even if their identities were hidden from the general public.

Not sure what is this forum policy about this subject, but just in case any moderator reads this i apologize in advance if it violates forum policy.

But i don't support homosexuality at all & was brought up in a family that doesn't so i support the stance against gays that people in south america tend to have. Thus i would prefer if a bloke is gay he ought to stay quiet for his own good, since the fans in the ground (like myself) would destroy him.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

really disappointing to hear that war, you seem like an intelligent bloke so I don't know why you would feel threatened by someone's personal sexuality. especially as you yourself are from a minority group that has suffered persecution in both general society and in football. I know there are homophobic people out there but it's worse hearing it come from someone I actually generally quite admire and respect. I don't see why anyone should have to hide who they are.

 

[puddleduck]

Slighty shocked is an understatement.