Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

[cnbd_novice]

Did anyone else feel that the last line left a very little opening for future novels, even if JKR decides not to pursue them?

The last line of any piece of writing is supposed to wrap up the whole article, and give a sense of completion to the whole piece-naturally this is something I find very challeging to incorporate in my writing. But Deathly Hallow's ending sentence is quite informative, and finishes off the whole series in a perfect manner in my opinion. Although Rowling could have gone without writng "All was well" as the last sentence- it's not really something I expect from any authors unless they are writing fairy tales. The sentence right before it works quite well as an ending sentence.

 

[pal]

What exactly is your point in relation to my post?

I was just saying that in the very unlikely case that she decides to add to the series, the final line does allow her something to pursue.

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

Voldemort is completely vanquished but Harry has to give his life in the same way Lily gave hers.
He then uses the power of the Hallows to beat death and return to kill Voldemort. Hallows > Horcruxes.

I have finished reading it, but i dont think the hallows get him back. The reasons which get him back are i guess as follows -

1. The wand was still not working properply for Voldemort [The elder wand]
2. He had a bit of voldemorts own sowl in it, which was destroyed by the avada kedavra spell, and not harry's.

Though i agree, the reason he welcomed death and gladly took it, also had some part in it, although he didnt have all the hallows with him the time he died - you can say that the wand COULD NOT kill his own master and it killed the voldmort part in harry instead

 

[barmyarmy]

I don't know because he actually had to die to destroy the horcrux etc.
Thinking about it there were two things that really jarred for me:

- Ron leaving. No way imo.
- Molly killing Bellatrix. Didn't like that bit at all.

 

[cnbd_novice]

I have finished reading it, but i dont think the hallows get him back. The reasons which get him back are i guess as follows -

1. The wand was still not working properply for Voldemort [The elder wand]
2. He had a bit of voldemorts own sowl in it, which was destroyed by the avada kedavra spell, and not harry's.

Though i agree, the reason he welcomed death and gladly took it, also had some part in it, although he didnt have all the hallows with him the time he died - you can say that the wand COULD NOT kill his own master and it killed the voldmort part in harry instead

1. The wand, as explained by Colin before, truly belonged to Harry, as he won its loyalty after defeating Draco, therefore the Elder Wand refused to work against its master, and caused Tom Riddle's curse to rebound. upon himself.
2. I am not really sure what you mean, but as Dumbledore explained, taking Harry's blood to strengthen Voldemort actually strenghtens Harry's chances of living. As the enchantment for Lily's sacrifice survives, it also gave Harry one more chance of living and facing Riddle once more.

 

[whitekickboy]

............. i thogutn two main characters died but they dont really apart from voldemort

 

[cnbd_novice]

............. i thogutn two main characters died but they dont really apart from voldemort

I don't really remember hearing about 2 main characters dying, however, there are plenty of characters who are killed in Deathly Hallows. Mad-Eye Moody, Dobby, Snape, Fred Weasley, Lupin, Tonks, Voldemort (not to forget Hedwig) are few to name.

 

[whitekickboy]

yeah mad eyed moody dobby and hedwig

 

[sohum]

Lupin and Tonks? They were pretty important characters though JK Rowling didn't focus on them too much.

I believe Dumbledore's wisdom went a long way in forging the ending to this book. I'm not sure how believable it is that he knew everything that he did, but it's just a story, eh?

I'm also wondering if this book falls into the realm of "children's fiction". This book presents many complex theories which I am yet to grasp! But maybe I'm just a tad senile.

 

[Highlander999]

I think this book can be read by everyone like Lord of The Rings

 

[pal]

The part where they have to wear the horcrux and find themselves being consumed by its negativity is so similar to the ring in Lord of the Rings and its effect on those who wear it.

Molly killing Bellatrix. Didn't like that bit at all.

I didn't either. That "YOU BITCH!" part just seemed out of place for some reason, even though Molly is pretty temperamental.

 

[icyman]

Snape....well the hero of the series for me....
He should'nt have died though.

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

Snape....well the hero of the series for me....
He should'nt have died though.

His death was the thing which made voldemort overconfident. His death was a factor that harry got to view his pensieve and came to know lots of things.

1. The wand, as explained by Colin before, truly belonged to Harry, as he won its loyalty after defeating Draco, therefore the Elder Wand refused to work against its master, and caused Tom Riddle's curse to rebound. upon himself.
2. I am not really sure what you mean, but as Dumbledore explained, taking Harry's blood to strengthen Voldemort actually strenghtens Harry's chances of living. As the enchantment for Lily's sacrifice survives, it also gave Harry one more chance of living and facing Riddle once more.

1. But when he used it in the forest, harry didnt knew that he was the true owner of the elder wand, and tom riddle's curse did not rebound, but since the spell was a killing curse, the wand couldnt kill its own master, but it killed the part of voldermort's soul living in harry(which made him a horcrux) since that soul didnt belong to his master. That was the thing that must have given voldemort a blow.
2. When voldermort attacked harry when he was a baby, what voldemort actually did was, he accidentally made harry one of his horcruxes, just like Nagini. But this thing happened unknowingly. I guess the fact that people say that his curse was rebounded which made him live in exile for so long years, isnt aggreable. When he had made the 6'th horcrux, his soul was so unstable it pretty much managed to survive. But when he accidentally made harry the 7'th horcrux, the soul was badly unstable and voldermort had to live that life ( where he wasnt dead or alive ).

So as i was saying, since that killing curse killed voldermort's own part in harry, he was now pure.

Harry, unknowingly used the hallows to triumph over voldemort. He didnt knew in the forest that he was the only uniter of the three hallows - his coming back could have been a mixture of the hallow's powers and the reason that his soul remained untouched. This is what must have made voldermort's curse rebound in the end too - harry was the owner of the hallows and voldemort tried to kill harry with harry's own wand, which was impossible.

Yeah i agree, dumbledore was so far sighted in the story, he knew what he was doing since so long. He had been into the hallow's stuff for years, even before harry was born. I think the only thing that was extraordinary in harry was that he was a desecendant of the thrid peverall brother and he inherited the cloak.

Fred weasly also died, which was a pretty heavy blow. And lupin and tonks were indeed quite important - harry was the godfather of their child now !

though if you want, you can think of scrimgeour as a main character also :laugh:laugh

 

[cnbd_novice]

though if you want, you can think of scrimgeour as a main character also :laugh:laugh

Meh, Scrimgeour disgusts me more than other characters, plus he's more like a secondary character.

Snape....well the hero of the series for me....
He should'nt have died though.

Yeah, he has to go down to my list of heroes of Harry Potter too. But Did anyone else notice that Voldemort's curse on the position of the Defence Against the Dark Arts lasted for each of the years represented in the novel, and no teacher appointed for the subject lasted for more than a year?

 

[sohum]

I think this book can be read by everyone like Lord of The Rings

Well anyone can read any book. But I think the levels of understanding will vary greatly among the target audiences.

That statement could have come out of a can though.

Meh, Scrimgeour disgusts me more than other characters, plus he's more like a secondary character.

More like tertiary. He had like 5 scenes in total.

I'm going to have to read this one again on my way back to the States... and read it properly this time.