Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

[afridi25]

actually Nagini is not a horcrux, he does not die.

i think thats right, there is no mention of him dying

 

[cnbd_novice]

actually Nagini is not a horcrux, he does not die.

Sorry, you're wrong on both accounts. See the list of horcruxes here at Wikipedia.

 

[afridi25]

that goes to the crkt 04 downloads lol.

 

[wolf]

Horcruxes:
Tom Riddle's Diary
Marvolo Gaunt'sRing
Hufflepuff's Cup
Rawenclaw's Diadem
Slytherin's Locket
Nagini
Harry

Obviously JKR has made a mistake in the books.
In book 6,she says that there are 6 Horcruxes and not 7.
She also mentioned that the 7th part resides in Voldemort's body.
So how come we have 7 Horcuxes then ?

If that is the case,then Vodlemort should'nt have existed at all.

Slytherin's locket? There was no such thing!

 

[hassan]

umm there was the SLytherin locket because it was that Horcrux which brought about Dumbledores death and the only one harry knew something about and they destroyed it using the Gryffindor Sword in Forest of Dean.....

.................

Only thing that i dont get cleanly is ... How did harry come back from death.. I believe that it was because of mothers blood still giving him protection and as it was in Voldy too, harry didnt die because Voldy was still alive and his mothers blood ran tho him thus not harming harry but only voldys soul inside it.?

 

[iloveireland]

I still don't understand. If he split his soull into seven parts and all those seven are horcruxes, who did he have any inside him? Snape was a knob of a character. I never liked him ecept in the Potter Puppet Pals things on youtube. They are funny.

 

[icyman]

Slytherin's locket? There was no such thing!

Oviously there was.
They mentioned it the Order of the Phoenix as well as in Half-Blood Prince.


There is another mistake in the book.
The wand never attacks its owner.
So how did it kill Harry ? Why did it not rebound on Voldemort then and there.

Altogether,she has'nt written a good book.

 

[sohum]

Horcruxes:
Tom Riddle's Diary
Marvolo Gaunt'sRing
Hufflepuff's Cup
Rawenclaw's Diadem
Slytherin's Locket
Nagini
Harry

Obviously JKR has made a mistake in the books.
In book 6,she says that there are 6 Horcruxes and not 7.
She also mentioned that the 7th part resides in Voldemort's body.
So how come we have 7 Horcuxes then ?

If that is the case,then Vodlemort should'nt have existed at all.

From what I understand, Voldemort did not know that a 7th horcrux was created in Harry. I agree, though, that the bit about horcruxes seemed very complicated and convoluted, probably because she hadn't thought out the exact details of it when she had written the previous books.

 

[Cricketman]

Oviously there was.

The wand never attacks its owner.
So how did it kill Harry ? Why did it not rebound on Voldemort then and there.

First off it didn't kill harry.
It attacked and killed the part of voldermorts soul (the horcrux) that was encased in Harry.

 

[wolf]

Oviously there was.
They mentioned it the Order of the Phoenix as well as in Half-Blood Prince.

Yeah, sorry.

The only thing about the horcruxes that explains it is that of course Voldermort didn't know Harry was a horcrux, so he made the snake a horcrux thinking that would make seven, when it actually made 8.

 

[hassan]

Yep so there were 8 souls of Voldy altogether...

and @Iceman: I think that it didnt repel the Avada Kedavara curse on harry in the forest eralier simply because he didnt defend himself by casting any spell which later when he did caused the spell to rebound and Kill Voldy...

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

Thanks for the clarifications, Kshitiz, makes it much clearer. One more thing I would like to clarify is how did Dumbledore manage to "beat" Grindelwald in that epic duel, if Grindelwald possessed the Elder Wand. Was the legend that the owner of the Elder Wald could not be defeated in a duel just a myth?

It isnt a myth - the power of the wizard matters also. Its the wizards skill also that matters. You cant expect a 1'st year hogwarts with the elder wand to beat voldemort lol. Take it this way.

Wizards power + elder wands EXTRA ORDINARY POWEr = the wizards total power.

But imagine in a case where the rivalling wizards normal power is more than the sum total, then what will happen ? obviously the master of the wand will be defeated.

Dumbledore had sheer skill. Moreover, the courage factor comes now. Dumbledore did not fear death, but grindelwald did initially. all dark wizards do. This courage must have aused dumbledore to overpower grindelwald, combined with his sheer skill and power. The wand was unbeatable, not the wizard

Also regarding the horcrux things, what happened was, that when voldemort came to kill harry whjen harry was a baby, he already had made all the 6 horcruxes, which you all know.

When he came to harry, and used the killing curse, he accidentally made him an horcrux, that is, he split his remaining little soul in his body into another two pieces, and one piece got attached to harry. Now his soul was so unstable that he NEITHER LIVED NOR WAS DEAD. his life was a misery. Do you remember, he could rely in professor quirrel in the first book ? because his soul was very weak. HE NEVER DIED THAT NIGHT, HIS BODY WAS JUST UNABLE TO LIVE.

Then, he used the diary horcrux, trying to come back, but he couldnt. NOw what he did was that all of you saw in the 4'th book - used his remaining soul and took harry's blood etc. to come back to life. Then it all started. Hope everything's clearer now.

PS . If you read the 7'th book, there's a part when harry is in voldemorts mind and recalls how his parents got killed, the exact scene. That says that as soon as voldemort fired the killing curse, something happened, and and, lol i forgot, but it says he isnt dead.

 

[Ollie_H]

harry never died is the thing hey just thought he was dead. When voldy used avda kerdava on harry he only destroyed the part of his soul in harry. When lilly took the kill for harry some of voldys sould was in harry and then transferred back to voldy. thats why neither can live while the other does or something but then harry gets the elder wand and kills voldy.

 

[cnbd_novice]

harry never died is the thing hey just thought he was dead. When voldy used avda kerdava on harry he only destroyed the part of his soul in harry. When lilly took the kill for harry some of voldys sould was in harry and then transferred back to voldy. thats why neither can live while the other does or something but then harry gets the elder wand and kills voldy.

Then would you care to explain how he had that unforgettable conversation with Albus Dumbledore, who was in fact dead??:

Yes, I admit that Harry was never fully dead. My preception is, and Dumbledore also confirms this, "He (Voldemort) left part of himself latched to you,"-that the Elder Wand didn't attack its real master, but the part that really didn't belong to him (Riddle's part), but it's not to forget that the part was attached to Harry, therefore though the killing curse didn't fully murder him, it did put him in a state of.........suspended animation I suppose (people advise better terminology).

Also the deathly hallows helped him beat death as well.

 

[smssia0112]

Well I have to say that ending was way too obvious, Harry not dying was not a smart idea in my opinion, and Voldemort's death was so quick I was disappointed.

A bit of an anti-climax for me, though I had a feeling he wouldn't die because everyone is in love with him.

That spoiler site was very smart...

As for Snape I knew all along that he wasn't evil, it's so obvious when you think about it, Harry distrusts him, and is proven wrong on countless ocassions, but he still hates Snape. That simply proves that Snape is going to be good.

Then would you care to explain how he had that unforgettable conversation with Albus Dumbledore, who was in fact dead??:

Yes, I admit that Harry was never fully dead. My preception is, and Dumbledore also confirms this, "He (Voldemort) left part of himself latched to you,"-that the Elder Wand didn't attack its real master, but the part that really didn't belong to him (Riddle's part), but it's not to forget that the part was attached to Harry, therefore though the killing curse didn't fully murder him, it did put him in a state of.........suspended animation I suppose (people advise better terminology).

Also the deathly hallows helped him beat death as well.

Read the book. I hate people who purposely find out what happens at the end of a book before they get to it.