ICC Cricket World Cup - May/July 2019

[LiveLoveABD]

The reason India find themselves uncertain despite breezing into the semis is the lack of vision from the Shastri-Kohli duo along with ineptitude of the selectors. Dhoni took a call and Srikkanth backed him in 2008 when we moved from Dada/Dravid in 2007/8. Keep in mind Dravid was captain till the 2007 ODI Series in England and if I remember correctly, he also scored a couple of blistering knocks against England, the 60-ball 93 at Bristol being one of them. Honestly, the 2008 Dravid was much less of an ODI liability than the 2018/19 Dhoni. Yet, the selectors did`nt have the spine to say that, Pant will be our first choice keeper and we will groom him for the WC. Imagine if Pant had the game time. To make matters worse, we did not pick him in Aus and NZ at the start of the year.

I agree with the criticism of the management but not of Dhoni's. He is neither used properly nor has he played that badly. You cannot measure the value of MSD in tangible terms.[DOUBLEPOST=1562169811][/DOUBLEPOST]It almost feels like NZ took the field today to make sure they just about qualify.

 

[aditya123]

I agree with the criticism of the management but not of Dhoni's. He is neither used properly nor has he played that badly. You cannot measure the value of MSD in tangible terms.

I don`t think any of the Dhoni issues in the slog overs are a tournament old. As far back as 2015, we`ve banked on him finishing games and it has`nt come off in chases. He adds value when we are chasing 230-260 or averting a collapse. Yet, not even considering an option where he is dispensable is not correct.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I don`t think any of the Dhoni issues in the slog overs are a tournament old. As far back as 2015, we`ve banked on him finishing games and it has`nt come off in chases. He adds value when we are chasing 230-260 or averting a collapse. Yet, not even considering an option where he is dispensable is not correct.

Your questions will be answered before this world cup is over. Mark my words.

 

[Master Khan]

This is all going one way. Apparently for Pakistan to get ahead of New Zealand on NRR if they bowl first against Bangladesh, New Zealand need to be bowled out for 142 here and Pakistan need to bowl Bangladesh out for 0 and win with five wides first ball. Ponder that. hahaha, found this on cricinfo and just had a laugh.

I guess Pakistan can try to win the world cup in 2023 now.

 

[Master Khan]

I don`t think any of the Dhoni issues in the slog overs are a tournament old. As far back as 2015, we`ve banked on him finishing games and it has`nt come off in chases. He adds value when we are chasing 230-260 or averting a collapse. Yet, not even considering an option where he is dispensable is not correct.

They need to put Dhoni higher up the batting order, I mean the last time he scored a century was 19 October 2013 vs Australia so he needs more time on the pitch to score runs.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

This is all going one way. Apparently for Pakistan to get ahead of New Zealand on NRR if they bowl first against Bangladesh, New Zealand need to be bowled out for 142 here and Pakistan need to bowl Bangladesh out for 0 and win with five wides first ball. Ponder that. hahaha, found this on cricinfo and just had a laugh.

I guess Pakistan can try to win the world cup in 2023 now.

Does this have any parallel to 1992?

 

[Rehan_24]

Kane Williamson is gone and that too a run out, Well Pakistan only got themselves to blame for that poor start to the world by getting absolutely smash by West Indies and then not improving their run rate against teams Afghanistan.

Yup If Pakistan goes out of Semis and that will only be confirmed on Friday so It is our team who would be responsible for this. I'd call West Indies match a bad day but the match against Australia was in our pocket but the team needed thrashing before it started to perform good and Pakistan could definitely improve their run rate a lot against Newzeland and Afghanistan but the confidence was very low and Pakistan needed more relax wins than thinking about NRR at that time so I give them benefit of the doubt.

Anyhow, as far as the championship is concerned, I will definitely see Australia or England as favorites. I don't see a slight chance of India winning the cup considering the performance they gave against England and barely lost yesterday match against Bangladesh. Australia is looking a strong unit while England's favorite tag hasn't been lifted off since well before the beginning of the World Cup. English media and experts cannot afford a loss this time around and they are virtually mentally prepared that this time the World Cup is for them.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

NZ qualifying in the manner that they have with PAK and BAN missing out just shows the impact rain has had. Unacceptable in my book!

It's easy to point the finger at BAN and PAK but reality is that the 4th team has qualified on luck. Two more teams were more deserving and the PAK BAN game should have been a QF!

 

[abhi_jacko]

All this "NZ luckier than Pakistan" is just bs. Pakistan find themselves in this condition because they have been extremely mercurial. Either performing brilliantly or not giving a fight at all. Their loss margins have been big even against Australia and especially India. When you clearly know that something like NRR will be considered, then no team can claim to be done wrong by it just because you are not qualifying.

NZ has had a downfall off late, but they had a cracking start to the tournament nevertheless and have made it count against the weaker teams (SL, WI) by maximizing their NRR. Thats what consistent teams do. Writing off their path to the semifinals as "lucky" as incredibly unfair to them

 

[abhi_jacko]

It's easy to point the finger at BAN and PAK but reality is that the 4th team has qualified on luck. Two more teams were more deserving and the PAK BAN game should have been a QF!

That is just ridiculous.

NZ were clinical against the weaker teams and crushed them. That amounts for a lot in such a long tournament. When you have things going your way, you simply grab those chances instead of dropping points. There was no uncertainty going into those games wondering - 'which Pakistani side will show up today. The one that will score 300+ or the one that will fold for 100 odd'. Consistency is being rewarded here and rightly so

And btw, Pakistan is still at 9 points ! Anyone who thinks they would have thrashed Bangladesh would be grossly underestimating Bangladesh

 

[Rehan_24]

We should remember that Pakistan and Sri Lanka match was washed out due to rain and Pakistan just beaten England before that match so Pakistan clearly missed one point as well as its chance to be good at NRR as well. As far as consistency is concerned, Pakistan has been consistent since South Africa match, even though Afgh match got close but the end result was in favor of Pakistan. I think Pakistan should go with full strength against BAN on Friday and get a good win for confidence.

Newzeland has been consistently performing poor since last three matches as well and I wonder that a team got pack up against Aussies on 150 and today crawling on a low score and will get a loss with a huge margin, got defeated by Pakistan as well is still qualifying on NRR. But these are rules of game and we can't do anything about it

 

[Alexei.]

If Carlos Brathwaite had hit Six, the scenario would be totally different. One moment, that could have changed the world cup. Also the rain.

Looks like IND v ENG and AUS v NZ semis

 

[asprin]

Read some stats that say that Pakistan will need to win by close to 270 runs while batting first assuming NZ lose by around 120 runs today.

While extremely difficult, if Pakistan score 400 and bowl Bangladesh around 110-120 (hey collapses do happen) , that's still a possibility.

The game has changed so much that expecting a team to score 400 in ODI is no longer looking impossible. Not frequently but not out of reach either.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

We should remember that Pakistan and Sri Lanka match was washed out due to rain and Pakistan just beaten England before that match so Pakistan clearly missed one point as well as its chance to be good at NRR as well. As far as consistency is concerned, Pakistan has been consistent since South Africa match, even though Afgh match got close but end result was in favor of Pakistan. I think Pakistan should go with full strength against BAN on Friday and get a good win for confidence.

Sri Lanka also beat England, so they might feel they missed out on a point against Pakistan. Same goes for their Bangladesh match and Bangladesh probably feel the same about that one. It's a shame that two wash outs have had a big knock on effect for the chances of three teams. You can't really blame the weather, it's to be expected in England, but why there aren't reserve days is the ICC's fault.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Sri Lanka also beat England, so they might feel they missed out on a point against Pakistan. Same goes for their Bangladesh match and Bangladesh probably feel the same about that one. It's a shame that two wash outs have had a big knock on effect for the chances of three teams. You can't really blame the weather, it's to be expected in England, but why there aren't reserve days is the ICC's fault.

NZ were in rich form before the India game and had thrashed India in the warm ups. I guess they will feel they missed out on a couple of points as well