India in England/Ireland/Scotland

[Eddie]

how many other fast bowlers are in the Indian squad other than :

Khan
Agarkar
Singh
Patel

 

[manee]

No other fast bowlers as far as I'm aware.

 

[Sureshot]

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/player/34102.html

That's the India squad.

I think India should stop faffing about with their batting order too.

Ganguly
Sachin
Dravid
Karthik
Yuvi
Dhoni

That's if they chose to play 6 batsman, I'd bring in another batsman and let Yuvi, Tendulkar and Ganguly bowl 10 overs.

 

[Animator!]

Besides your fielding, your main problem is not having an all-rounder. Your having to either play 6 batsman, or 5 out and out bowlers, which leaves your tail exposed. However, if you play 6 batsman, your fifth bowler is going to be get hit around and taken for easy runs. You have to decide which is the lesser of the two evils. Personally, if I were coach, I'd prefer to play the extra bowler, Powar and Chawla have bowled well, probably your best bowlers in the ODI's so far, it'd make no sense dropping either of those two, and your top four, for ODI cricket should be able to chase most things down in general.

However, it's a longer term problem that either don't have an all rounder of the quality nessercary or your still waiting to see if Irfan Pathan can fill that void, or perhaps waiting for another youngster to come through.

Also, a fielding coach can imrpove your fielding, it can improve it vastly. Sri Lanka's fielding has improved immenseley since Tom Moody introduced Trevor Penny as their fielding coach, and it's obvious it's improve. South Africa's fielding has improved with the introduction of Jonty Rhodes, again, it's improve quite considerably. England's fielding has improved over the past few years, with the introduction of more fielding drills and practise. So clearly a fielding coach can improve your fielding, India just have the wrong man for the job, or the players don't want to improve, it's that simple.

 

[manee]

Also, a fielding coach can imrpove your fielding, it can improve it vastly. Sri Lanka's fielding has improved immenseley since Tom Moody introduced Trevor Penny as their fielding coach, and it's obvious it's improve. South Africa's fielding has improved with the introduction of Jonty Rhodes, again, it's improve quite considerably. England's fielding has improved over the past few years, with the introduction of more fielding drills and practise. So clearly a fielding coach can improve your fielding, India just have the wrong man for the job, or the players don't want to improve, it's that simple.

Or maybe it takes more than a couple of months to improve fielding? Give him time and Robin Singh will produce the goods.

 

[Animator!]

It took a single series for the Sri Lankans and the South Africans to show at least signs that they were begining to improve, and those series were far shorter than the tour of England that India have undertaken. Is the fielding in Indian domestic cricket this bad also? Because if it is then there's your problem.

 

[King Pietersen]

But surely they would have improved abit ? I surely cant imagine the Indian fielding could have ever been much worse. Karthik, who according to the commentators is supposed to be one of your better fielders is a complete donkey in the field, makes more mistakes than Monty.

India need a proper all-rounder also, not Agarkar, who is frankly all round rubbish. His bowling was beyond poor, and he didnt look as though he could pick up a bat. Munaf needs to improve aswell, he cant throw, cant bat and cant bowl and keep his foot behind the line. When he gets his bowling right he is very good, but he bowls WAYY too many no balls. India need to improve desperately.

 

[.Mob]

Once again, i wasn't impressed with our bowlers either. Like Always i say, its poor bowling effort from our team. Regarding batting, its not that bad.. They tried their level best.. Dravid, Yuvi, Sourav played exceptionally well. Only thinig which i was wondering is, Karthik at no3? He had played some match winning knocks down the order while chasing..

I felt that this was our biggest mistake while batting, like you said, Karthik is an excellent finisher and Dravid played an amazing innings in Bristol and was regaining his form.

Dravid should have come out at three and Karthik should have stayed in his normal position.

LOL at anyone saying that Powar should be dropped, he caused the England batsmen more problems than any of the other bowlers (maybe equal with Chawla) and dropping him would be utter stupidity. Very clever player, in my opinion.

I reckon we need give people like Uthappa a chance by the end of the series at least. Anyone know why Sreesanth isn't in the squad, though?

He would have been much better than Agarkar, more agressive, more zip, more speed, more passion. Agarkar is a clueless Donkey nowadays.

Even youngsters like Karthik, RP Singh, Gambhir, etc do not seem to be fielding well. I feel either give the gloves to Karthik or make him sit down.

I don't know about RP Singh but make no mistake, Gambhir and Karthik are excellent fielders.

Karthik is just going through a bad time, where his fielding is all over the place.

 

[manee]

But surely they would have improved abit ? I surely cant imagine the Indian fielding could have ever been much worse. Karthik, who according to the commentators is supposed to be one of your better fielders is a complete donkey in the field, makes more mistakes than Monty.

Ignore the reputation Karthik has, it is based on nothing.

India need a proper all-rounder also, not Agarkar, who is frankly all round rubbish. His bowling was beyond poor, and he didnt look as though he could pick up a bat. Munaf needs to improve aswell, he cant throw, cant bat and cant bowl and keep his foot behind the line. When he gets his bowling right he is very good, but he bowls WAYY too many no balls. India need to improve desperately.

Totally agree. Even now, Irfan Pathan would be the better option. He has always been the way better batter and pitching the ball up as he does, he is bound to get one or two wickets even on a bad day. I hope the work with his bowling action continues and goes well. If it does transform him into a good bowler again, Lillee and Sekhar deserve some sort of prize.

I have a lot of time for Munaf, he is a good bowler and has tonnes of potential. His impoverished upbringing and workhorse attitude are admirable. But, he currently should not make the team. First things first, he should ignore the people like Sunil Gavaskar and Greg Chappell and concentrate on bowling fast and to a field. Bowling short of a length at 75-80mph does not help anyone because the batsman can place you around the field. His fielding is currently a liability, for a start, why is he on the boundary if he cannot throw? You should never have a fielder so bad that he cannot go anywhere in the field without being totally useless. He should be kept on the scene, but at his state, bowling military medium and fielding and batting like a chump, he should not play.

I hope India manage to change their squad and possibly bring in a few from the victorious Tri Series in Kenya. Praveen Kumar and Irfan Pathan seem the obvious choices but Pankaj Singh and Yousuf Pathan were also very very good.

I reckon we need give people like Uthappa a chance by the end of the series at least. Anyone know why Sreesanth isn't in the squad, though?

Poor List A average and economy backed up by poor ODI average and economy.

I don't know about RP Singh but make no mistake, Gambhir and Karthik are excellent fielders.

Karthik is just going through a bad time, where his fielding is all over the place.

How do you know Karthik is an excellent fielder?

 

[.Mob]

Because I've seen him field well?

Maybe I should have said that he is a good fielder and not excellent. You can't argue that he's pretty athletic though.

By the way, isn't Rohit Sharma meant to be an all-rounder?

Although he is a spinner. How good is he?

 

[manee]

Because I've seen him field well?

Maybe I should have said that he is a good fielder and not excellent. You can't argue that he's pretty athletic though.

I have not seen him field well. He seems to do a good job of diving over the ball or for a ball he could never get but you rarely see him making a fantastic piece of fielding - like the sort that Chawla was producing yesterday.

On that topic, if Chawla could throw stronger, he could be a fantastic fielder, his pick up and throw is spectacular.

 

[Adarsh]

No point being athletic if you don't have good hands. I prefer someone like Tendulkar, who despite not being very quick, gets the basics right.

 

[.Mob]

Trust me, he is spectcular at times if you thought Chawla was good yesterday.

 

[manee]

Sorry about editing out the clip but you are not allowed illegally copyrighted videos.

I do believe you though. He must be going through a bad patch.

No point being athletic if you don't have good hands. I prefer someone like Tendulkar, who despite not being very quick, gets the basics right.

That being said, Sachin Tendulkar is not slow, in fact, he is one of the quicker Indian fielders.

 

[.Mob]

Ah sorry, my bad.