India Team Discussion

[abhi_jacko]

No one concerned about the India-Sri Lanka test? Especially when Ashwin picked up 6 wickets and Rohit failing once again.

You, my friend are clearly missing out on the action here : India's Tour Of Sri Lanka- August 2015 | Page 5 - International Tours and Events on PlanetCricket Forums

 

[greymatter776]

You, my friend are clearly missing out on the action here : India's Tour Of Sri Lanka- August 2015 | Page 5 - International Tours and Events on PlanetCricket Forums

Oops.I thought since when an easy link was made to this thread,no one really cared about that section.Thanks by the way.

 

[cricket_icon]

Damn, what a test, I felt India had it won after their first innings but a soft, soft performance in chasing a meager target. I'm just looking at that Indian batting line up, some talented, quick scoring players but much like a modern Australia, where are the guys that can dig in and ride out the tough times? Guys that can bat an entire day at a strike rate of 40 odd and wait out the hard sessions? You can't win test matches and series' without those guys.

 

[shravi]

Damn, what a test, I felt India had it won after their first innings but a soft, soft performance in chasing a meager target. I'm just looking at that Indian batting line up, some talented, quick scoring players but much like a modern Australia, where are the guys that can dig in and ride out the tough times? Guys that can bat an entire day at a strike rate of 40 odd and wait out the hard sessions? You can't win test matches and series' without those guys.

that guy has been benched for rohit sharma. vijay, rahane and pujara are the three players i would have trusted in a chase like that, and only one of them was playing. there was perhaps a little too much for rahane to do there at the end, and the momentum was firmly in sri lanka's hands by then. hearath and kaushal would have been difficult to stop for any batsman.

a lot of it was poor batting, but some of it was just shocking decisionmaking. ashwin's shot was just inexplicable. he was dancing down the track from ball 1.

 

[grkrama]

So we officially cant play bounce, swing, seam and now spin. Cant believe just a few years ago we had batsman that neutralized warne and murali.

 

[cricket_icon]

that guy has been benched for rohit sharma. vijay, rahane and pujara are the three players i would have trusted in a chase like that, and only one of them was playing. there was perhaps a little too much for rahane to do there at the end, and the momentum was firmly in sri lanka's hands by then. hearath and kaushal would have been difficult to stop for any batsman.

a lot of it was poor batting, but some of it was just shocking decisionmaking. ashwin's shot was just inexplicable. he was dancing down the track from ball 1.

What guy? I've seen Rahane, Vijay and Pujara play and none of them strike me as particularly exceptional.

The weakness, almost spineless batting performances from India aren't new, they have been present since the loss of Dravid, Laxman and lastly Tendulkar. No one has really been capable of fulfilling those roles, again, great comparisons with Australia imo. Smith, Warner, Kohli, Dhawan can all smash very good half centuries and centuries with a good run rate, in fact Kohli and Warner are two of my faves to watch but neither cricketer is mature or tough enough to play long, excruciating innings. Ugly innings. Innings that the likes of Younis Khan, Steve Waugh, Dravid and co could dig in and play. India's needs someone like that.

But hey, as long as the weak batting keeps giving up good test matches I have no problem.

 

[Aravind.]

What guy? I've seen Rahane, Vijay and Pujara play and none of them strike me as particularly exceptional.

The weakness, almost spineless batting performances from India aren't new, they have been present since the loss of Dravid, Laxman and lastly Tendulkar. No one has really been capable of fulfilling those roles, again, great comparisons with Australia imo. Smith, Warner, Kohli, Dhawan can all smash very good half centuries and centuries with a good run rate, in fact Kohli and Warner are two of my faves to watch but neither cricketer is mature or tough enough to play long, excruciating innings. Ugly innings. Innings that the likes of Younis Khan, Steve Waugh, Dravid and co could dig in and play. India's needs someone like that.

But hey, as long as the weak batting keeps giving up good test matches I have no problem.

I bet you have never watched pujara bat.

 

[grkrama]

I've seen Rahane, Vijay and Pujara play and none of them strike me as particularly exceptional.

Murali Vijay is possibly one of the best dogball watching openers around someone who can handle all attacks in all conditions. Like you say one who can play those ugly innings.

Rahanae has great elegant backfoot play in this era were every one good is defacto front foot, plus in a year full of overseas tours his record isnt shabby. Again can play all attacks well though has quite a bit of weakness in converting starts which im sure can be overcome.
He is one player who has scored almost centuries against steyn, MJ, boult and Anderson & co in their home conditions. Possibly the 4 best available pace attacks in the world in their conditions.If his career doesn't turn exceptional i would be disappointed.



Pujara is a solid player though has surprisingly really let down in ENG and Aus, but given his long innings temperament and willingness to work hard in county etc i do see him coming good in near future.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

What guy? I've seen Rahane, Vijay and Pujara play and none of them strike me as particularly exceptional.

The weakness, almost spineless batting performances from India aren't new, they have been present since the loss of Dravid, Laxman and lastly Tendulkar. No one has really been capable of fulfilling those roles, again, great comparisons with Australia imo. Smith, Warner, Kohli, Dhawan can all smash very good half centuries and centuries with a good run rate, in fact Kohli and Warner are two of my faves to watch but neither cricketer is mature or tough enough to play long, excruciating innings. Ugly innings. Innings that the likes of Younis Khan, Steve Waugh, Dravid and co could dig in and play. India's needs someone like that.

But hey, as long as the weak batting keeps giving up good test matches I have no problem.

Did you see Rahane's innings @ Lord's?

 

[grkrama]

Stuart Binny added to India Test squad | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

just hope Bhuvi gets in for harbhajan instead of binny.

Also on what factors is binny chosen over Rishi dhawan

Stuart Binny | India Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

Rishi Dhawan | India Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

both in bat and ball RD's figures are much better in FC, he is also younger at 25 compare to binny's 31.

RD is constantly playing FC and Team A tours. where as binny's was IPL and then odi's in Zim .

I mean his father may walk out of the room at time of selection.. but unless a solid reason for binny's selection against a better performing youngster is given i smell stinking conflict of interest.

Also how good is rahul's keeping if he can do a dravid, i would slot him in for Saha and get pujara in, especially with vijay making it back looking doubtful. If vijay makes it we can readily leave rohit out and have vijay, rahul and pujara playing in. Would make a solid lineup with dhawan , rahanae and kohli.

 

[Rehan_24]

It seems to me that Virat is not a captaincy material. A good and emerging batsman not necessarily prove to be a good captain. Maybe, As he advances in career he gets good in captaincy but Its a born talent rather than a make shift kind of role. Just what I have observed a little, His performance has gone down as well because of this additional role. More-over, If he would concentrate on his batting more than Media hype and girl-friend, I am hopeful he will get good results. To become a Great, You have to act like Greats

 

[shravi]

Just what I have observed a little, His performance has gone down as well because of this additional role. More-over, If he would concentrate on his batting more than Media hype and girl-friend, I am hopeful he will get good results. To become a Great, You have to act like Greats

with 4 centuries in 4 tests, i am looking forward to when his performances pick up...

 

[IceAgeComing]

I don't think Kohli is that good but I'm heavily influenced by the tour of England last year where he was, to be frank, terrible and probably should have been dropped. The stats seem to suggest that he does good in most other places outside India - he averages over 60 in the eight tests he's played in Australia for example, and that's typically somewhere that batsmen can struggle to bat on.

Funny thing about Kohli, he seems to do better when his team lose the toss: he averages nearly 60 when they lose the toss compared to 31 when they win it. This is probably influenced by the fact that he's apparently awful at batting in the first innings of the game: he averages 24 (!) when India bat first (including games where they've decided to bat first and ones when they've been sent in, while he averages 67 (!) when India field first. Dunno if anyone can explain why, it just seems very strange and an odd sort of statistical imbalance...

 

[PokerAce]

^ Yeah I can see how an English fan won't think much of Kohli after his last tour there. Its one of the reason I don't Lara that high, as he never did any worth note against India, and averages a very mediocre 35 against India. I never understood what all the fuss was about.

Of course both his world record innings were against Eng, which is why English fans just go on and on about Lara. I mean I know he was a great batsman, and played some very good innings, but you rate those you see, more than those you just read or hear about if you know what I mean.

That is why I rate Andy Flower so high, as on the tour in 2001 he just never seemed like getting out just swept and reverse swept everything and was phoenomenol.

Kohli though did go onto have a sensational tour of Aus, where he got 4 100s in the 4 tests. He was also facing the full line up of Aus bowlers in Starc, Johnson and even Harris, and Hazlewood. He also has a 100 and a 90 in his only two tests in SA. The guy can definitely bat. He did have a torrid run in England though. I am sure he would want to put that right the next tour.

Kohli however does have his greater feats in the ODIs, especially when India are chasing. I still remember when India had to chase 320 in Aus to get to the tri series final, in 40 overs cos of the bonus point thing, and yeah the guy did it. One of the best ever ODI chases ever.

 

[Rehan_24]

with 4 centuries in 4 tests, i am looking forward to when his performances pick up...

But your team is losing badly mate and i.e consistently both in one days and test matches. A performance is just not scoring runs, It is how you have scored it and what it contributed in winning matches for your team.