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what will be the ODI jersey for AUS tmw ?
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The 'Sharma' India will miss in Australia is Ishant. Not Rohit.
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Definitely, without Ishant there is a massive imbalance in the Indian pace battery. The Indian pacers are known to keep things tight and make it difficult for the opposition to score more runs and Ishant has been exceptional with this. Missing him is like taking out the life from the Indian pace bowling department.
Can the BCCI just suspend Virat Kohli indefinitely, ask him to return back to India immediately and conduct an independent investigation of both Virat Kohli (for his comments today about the Rohit uncertainty) and Rohit Sharma (about the entire fiasco surrounding his fitness and availability)? And also investigate the rumored 'rift between the captain and vice captain'? There definitely seems to be a power struggle and it is clear to one and all.
Indian cricket is just in such a mess right now, with the top two powerhouses who happen to be the captain and vice captain, damaging its reputation. But I won't be surprised if some people think that all this confusion drives up hype, which in turn brings in money.
My honest opinion - Virat Kohli crossed the line with his comments today. By his comments, he cast serious doubts over the board's functioning. He also gave it away that he is not on friendly terms with his deputy. Freedom of expression is fine, but there is a responsibility if you're THE leader. Most organizations have rules for how their officers should conduct themselves in public. Same thing for Rohit as to his absolute lack of clarity when it comes to dealing with his fitness. He knows how important he is to India's ODI and T20 squads. Yet he went ahead and played IPL despite being 'not fully fit'. This is ugly from all sides
I think India can move forward without both Kohli and Rohit. The IPL is churning out stars who can become tomorrow's superstars in a matter of months. World cricket is moving towards batting friendly wickets everywhere and with the kind of talent India is producing, the next Kohli or Rohit can be cemented into the national side in a matter of months.
Indian cricket is just in such a mess right now, with the top two powerhouses who happen to be the captain and vice captain, damaging its reputation. But I won't be surprised if some people think that all this confusion drives up hype, which in turn brings in money.
My honest opinion - Virat Kohli crossed the line with his comments today. By his comments, he cast serious doubts over the board's functioning. He also gave it away that he is not on friendly terms with his deputy. Freedom of expression is fine, but there is a responsibility if you're THE leader. Most organizations have rules for how their officers should conduct themselves in public. Same thing for Rohit as to his absolute lack of clarity when it comes to dealing with his fitness. He knows how important he is to India's ODI and T20 squads. Yet he went ahead and played IPL despite being 'not fully fit'. This is ugly from all sides
I think India can move forward without both Kohli and Rohit. The IPL is churning out stars who can become tomorrow's superstars in a matter of months. World cricket is moving towards batting friendly wickets everywhere and with the kind of talent India is producing, the next Kohli or Rohit can be cemented into the national side in a matter of months.
Aus vs Ind 2020-21 - Virat Kohli on Rohit Sharma's injury - 'Lot of uncertainty and lack of clarity'
I am happy to see Virat calling out Rohit and partially BCCI as well for the lack of clarity around this whole situation. It is absolutely embarrassing that Rohit decided to play three games for MI after communicating to the selectors that he is unavailable for selection for India's tour of Australia. I don't care if it's a T20 match and he didn't bat for too long, he still was in the field for the majority of the match. If he was really planning to make this tour, he could have taken a rest and allow his body to be ready for the series in Australia. At least, Ishant didn't play a game after he got injured and left the IPL.
I also agree on the part where Virat is saying they should have travelled with the squad just like Saha did and try to recover there so they don't have to quarantine for an extra period if they join in the middle of the tour. Rohit for sure hasn't come out looking good from this situation. It just felt like he has prioritized MI over India even though MI would have practically won the competition even without him.
I am happy to see Virat calling out Rohit and partially BCCI as well for the lack of clarity around this whole situation. It is absolutely embarrassing that Rohit decided to play three games for MI after communicating to the selectors that he is unavailable for selection for India's tour of Australia. I don't care if it's a T20 match and he didn't bat for too long, he still was in the field for the majority of the match. If he was really planning to make this tour, he could have taken a rest and allow his body to be ready for the series in Australia. At least, Ishant didn't play a game after he got injured and left the IPL.
I also agree on the part where Virat is saying they should have travelled with the squad just like Saha did and try to recover there so they don't have to quarantine for an extra period if they join in the middle of the tour. Rohit for sure hasn't come out looking good from this situation. It just felt like he has prioritized MI over India even though MI would have practically won the competition even without him.
For speaking the truth?
What the actual fearsome tweak? He just said what everyone was thinking. He is entitled to say that as the captain of the Indian national team who has just lost one of the best white ball players for thee tour so that his team could win a tweaking IPL trophy.
No, he did not. I am actually glad that he didn't take the high road and actually spoke the way he did.
NO, THEY CAN NOT.
Since you added it in caps and I assume that you are not shouting and just giving a lot of stress on your point, I am also trying to do the same thing here - INDIA CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT KOHLI AND ROHIT. INDIA HAS STARTED PRODUCING SOME SERIOUS TALENT THROUGH THE IPL THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO LOSE BOTH KOHLI AND ROHIT AND BOUNCE BACK FROM IT QUICKLY. There is bound to be a few series of turbulence as the new players adjust, but India can rebound. You have Gill, you have Samson, you have Devdutt, you have Ishan, you have SKY, you have Prithvi, you have Ruturaj, you have Samad, etc etc etc etc.
On the Kohli comments thing - the board has just given him all the freaking power in the world. Cant he just say "thats for the board for speak about" if a journalist is asking him about his comments on the Rohit injury issue? He doesn't have to lie. Cant he just sidestep it? Especially when he knows that whatever he speaks on Rohit can be used as further fuel to the fire that has already been burning for long enough now?
Sorry I stick to my opinion! I am not against people who speak the truth and I am not necessarily saying that what Kohli spoke is not the truth (honestly I, like you, dont really know what's going on in the background). But as captain, I will definitely sidestep the issue and keep the focus on the game thats coming up ahead.
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Also one more thing - the IPL has brought along with it split loyalties. Bumrah, Hardik have all played under Rohit for the Mumbai Indians and know better as to what was going on within the Mumbai Indians camp during the IPL. By speaking like this, dont you think Kohli is risking the possibility of strain within the squad? What if Hardik or Bumrah have firm loyalties with Rohit and dont like what Kohli just spoke? A sidestepping comment of "its for the board to comment on this" won't cause this issue. You are the captain of the national team, you got to let the board handle such stuff which relates to fitness and availability. Kohli just spoke as if he handles everything in Indian cricket.
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This is a failure of the BCCI not keeping things transparent and not having set protocols. I will not blame Kohli or Rohit here and they don't need to be in love in my opinion. They just need to make sure whatever there is between them (if there is) does not affect the team and I don't think there are any signs of it.
If we start discarding people at the slightest disagreements, what message are we giving to the next lot? Fall in line or get lost no matter what your contribution?
I think Kohli is a bad captain tactically, I think Rohit is a good one but that does not mean we heap this entire episode on Kohli for something he isn't responsible for. It's like punishing a pick pocketer for murder?!?!
Just like there are protocols to what you can or cannot say, Rohit knows the fitness protocols in place and it was evident even on the day of the final that he had put on a LOT of weight during the lockdown. We humiliated Sarfaraz Khan from RCB for years over this but nobody raised a finger on Rohit in the media. Just because his team won the IPL. If he has five bad scores, this same media will make this an issue.
Very simply, this entire episode is a failure of the management and communication at the end of the BCCI. It centrally contracts it's players and should reserve the right to withdraw a player from a franchise putting national interest ahead of franchise cricket but they can't and you know why?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Fact is, IPL has become bigger than any other cricket! The IPL has done the BCCI a lot of good, but I see a group being formed very soon which gives BCCI the right to not allow a player to play the IPL holding the central contract binding. But, MI pays Rohit 15 crores for 2 months and the BCCI 7 annually. Franchises are getting too powerful! The MI owner can basically ask our PM to come and play for them if they want to and the PM probably will have to.
Whatever be it, this is nowhere near Kohli's error nor Rohit's. If anything, 10% of the blame lies with Rohit for getting pregnant during the lockdown.
If we start discarding people at the slightest disagreements, what message are we giving to the next lot? Fall in line or get lost no matter what your contribution?
I think Kohli is a bad captain tactically, I think Rohit is a good one but that does not mean we heap this entire episode on Kohli for something he isn't responsible for. It's like punishing a pick pocketer for murder?!?!
Just like there are protocols to what you can or cannot say, Rohit knows the fitness protocols in place and it was evident even on the day of the final that he had put on a LOT of weight during the lockdown. We humiliated Sarfaraz Khan from RCB for years over this but nobody raised a finger on Rohit in the media. Just because his team won the IPL. If he has five bad scores, this same media will make this an issue.
Very simply, this entire episode is a failure of the management and communication at the end of the BCCI. It centrally contracts it's players and should reserve the right to withdraw a player from a franchise putting national interest ahead of franchise cricket but they can't and you know why?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Fact is, IPL has become bigger than any other cricket! The IPL has done the BCCI a lot of good, but I see a group being formed very soon which gives BCCI the right to not allow a player to play the IPL holding the central contract binding. But, MI pays Rohit 15 crores for 2 months and the BCCI 7 annually. Franchises are getting too powerful! The MI owner can basically ask our PM to come and play for them if they want to and the PM probably will have to.
Whatever be it, this is nowhere near Kohli's error nor Rohit's. If anything, 10% of the blame lies with Rohit for getting pregnant during the lockdown.
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I know you're angry but what you're basically saying is 35,000 runs between them can be negated in months with those players you mentioned based on promise? Come on!
You would not have been saying this if Ashwin was not on this plane to Australia and if this management had said Sundar is now the future would you? I mean, I despise the guy but there is no way you have a test squad without Ashwin!!
We all have our views but we cannot be so disrespectful towards two blokes that have made a mountain of runs for a decade. It's madness!
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you learn quick
now you would know better what the byjus and mpl logos are doing up there on the jersey
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I don't see where Kohli has made any comments that indicate something of a rift between him and Rohit. I also don't expect them to be best buds or even friends either as long as they are fine working together professionally which has been the case all along internationally at least. I also don't see Kohli being outspoken on this issue as a problem, lord knows how murky this entire fiasco has been and the fans deserve an explanation at the very least as to what's going on and it is best that the Indian captain speaks out about rather than some random bloke from the BCCI or even Sourav Ganguly (yes, he may be the BCCI President and an influential cricketer but we have selectors, coaches and a captain to talk about the squad. There is no point in having the President of the BCCI talk about this, I couldn't tell you who was the President of any other cricket board as they don't indulge in such selection issues all the time).
@LiveLoveABD spot on regarding the central contracts issue. FFS we have the Bangladeshi Cricket Board not handing Mustafizur Rahman NOCs for him to play in T20 leagues over the world as they want him to keep his fitness and play in tests. And it has been nearly a year and a half since he played in a test match too so any claim of them wanting him to rest for tests is absolute shite too. This is Mustafizur Rahman, the only world-class bowler Bangladesh have let alone pacer. If a board that does not pay it's cricketers as much as most other boards can afford to do all of this, the BCCI can surely can afford to force Rohit Sharma to not play pointing out his central contract. If he refuses at that point then fine, go ahead and drop him if you have no choice. Instead, all we had was a bunch of quotes from the Indian head coach and BCCI President for him to not 'risk' his fitness playing in IPL games. You need to assert a level of power at one point and call people out on their bluff, worst case scenario Rohit Sharma and the BCCI have a fall-out. At that point I wouldn't mind losing whatever he could have contributed, not before that.
As for any call to drop both Rohit and Kohli, the time to move on from them realistically will be post-23 WC when we have a core with international experience in Iyer, Gill, Shaw, Pant, Garg, Nagarkoti/Mavi and Jaishwal with senior pros like Agarwal, Rahul, Bumrah, Kuldeep and Hardik in the mix. Till then, we have to go with them. Voluntarily choosing to do a South Africa-esque transition will be just shooting ourselves in the foot.
@LiveLoveABD spot on regarding the central contracts issue. FFS we have the Bangladeshi Cricket Board not handing Mustafizur Rahman NOCs for him to play in T20 leagues over the world as they want him to keep his fitness and play in tests. And it has been nearly a year and a half since he played in a test match too so any claim of them wanting him to rest for tests is absolute shite too. This is Mustafizur Rahman, the only world-class bowler Bangladesh have let alone pacer. If a board that does not pay it's cricketers as much as most other boards can afford to do all of this, the BCCI can surely can afford to force Rohit Sharma to not play pointing out his central contract. If he refuses at that point then fine, go ahead and drop him if you have no choice. Instead, all we had was a bunch of quotes from the Indian head coach and BCCI President for him to not 'risk' his fitness playing in IPL games. You need to assert a level of power at one point and call people out on their bluff, worst case scenario Rohit Sharma and the BCCI have a fall-out. At that point I wouldn't mind losing whatever he could have contributed, not before that.
As for any call to drop both Rohit and Kohli, the time to move on from them realistically will be post-23 WC when we have a core with international experience in Iyer, Gill, Shaw, Pant, Garg, Nagarkoti/Mavi and Jaishwal with senior pros like Agarwal, Rahul, Bumrah, Kuldeep and Hardik in the mix. Till then, we have to go with them. Voluntarily choosing to do a South Africa-esque transition will be just shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Yo, lets calm it down a bit in here chaps. Can't really be bothered with having to ban people from the thread
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The new jersey looks hideous, just now managed to catch a glimpse of it. Byjus is a despicable company while it seems like MPL isn't any better. To have them front and centre in the new jersey is awful. Quite simply put, the players look like walking billboards wearing this crap!
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i guess one of the reason might be because he is not only bcci president but also a great indian cricketer, one of indias greatest captain
we havent seen srinivasan, dalmiya, manohar, thakur and other bcci presidents indulging in selection talks
but with sourav its different
he himself is quite open about talking about things
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