Indian Pace Attack, No. 1 IMO. What you say after reading 1st post?

[Gurjot95]

 

[AkshayS]

^huh! another EPIC FAIL.

 

[Gurjot95]

Can't argue with sachingr8, the one who says are bowlers our very bad is epic fail :sarcasm

 

[King Pietersen]

:laugh Number 1 pace attack in the world, you have got to be kidding me. Laughable thread that really isn't worth discussing. There is no way on earth that India have the best pace attack in the world.

 

[Brook]

And that's why we are the number one in tests.

Possibly more to do with batting and spin

Actually I might say that NZ have a worse pace attack.

 

[Gurjot95]

There is no way on earth that Chelsea have the best pace attack in the world.

But Man Utd has

 

[Varun]

I feel like laughing after reading all the posts in this thread!

 

[King Pietersen]

LOL. Can't believe I did that. Distracted by the FA Cup final. Chelsea definitely don't have the best pace attack :L

 

[aditya123]

They are certainly not the best attack but they are not as bad a test attack as most people here would like to believe. Sohum had put up stats of India`s series in the subcontinent in the last 2 years on very flat pitches which showed that they did take at least 50% of the burden when it came to picking wickets in those series. It was`nt as if the spinners did all the damage in tests, in fact I can remember India winning the series against England and Australia in 2008 just because our fast bowlers out-bowled theirs. They were superb in England in 2007, really competitive against Australia in Australia in 2008 (did well at MCG, had the Aussies at 100/6 at SCG and outbowled the Aussies at Perth). On pitches which were mostly flat, they did win us the series in NZ. Before someone points out how crap the NZ side are, Pakistan who toured immediately after that and considered to have one of the best attacks almost lost the series (NZ should have won it 2-1).

The problem for us has been that we have played lot of ODI/T20 cricket in unforgiving pitches ever since and we have been assuming that they would be crap in test cricket as well. We have been assuming that they`d be crap on helpful tracks without even looking at how they go in the series which would follow in SA later this year and the tours to Eng/Aus next year. They clearly are not the best but they are`nt the worst pace attack in tests when given decent tracks to bowl at and as the stats show, they`ve been getting work done even on some of those flat Indian test tracks. Otherwise, whether or not the ranking system is perfect, we would`nt be anywhere near that No.1 slot in tests. You cannot do that with only a spin attack that picks up wickets.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

No where near the best pace attack. RP and Sreesanth have been out of form for ages, Zak is a lone toiler, Sharma is in-effective when the pitch doesn't offer bounce, and Praveen/Munaf/Tyagi/Vinay have not proved themselves in Test cricket. Irfan Pathan and Balaji were once excellent, but aren't near test quality now.

If Sreesanth, Sharma, RP and Zak were to all hit peak form in tandom, then we'd have something. Sreesanth swinging it at high pace, RP with swing and bounce, Sharma with dangerous bounce and seam movement, and Zak the all-round spearhead...

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No where near the best pace attack. RP and Sreesanth have been out of form for ages, Zak is a lone toiler, Sharma is in-effective when the pitch doesn't offer bounce, and Praveen/Munaf/Tyagi/Vinay have not proved themselves in Test cricket. Irfan Pathan and Balaji were once excellent, but aren't near test quality now.

If Sreesanth, Sharma, RP and Zak were to all hit peak form in tandom, then we'd have something. Sreesanth swinging it at high pace, RP with swing and bounce, Sharma with dangerous bounce and seam movement, and Zak the all-round spearhead...

 

[surendar]

Our bowling is not worst definitely, but at the same time it's not good either.

The new ball, in the hands of India's bowlers, made no statement. It wasn't the first serve, as it should have been. It was merely a formality that had to be achieved for a game to start, just a pawn that was pushed forward with little intent. The new ball on flat pitches and on grounds with short boundaries is like a toy for a pampered child to toss around, but here it had fangs. India's openers were shown them, the opposition weren't. It is a serious issue. New-ball bowlers have to be cultivated and nurtured so that they grow into handsome trees; they cannot, at the first sight of a storm, wither away.

Harsha Bhogle: Three reasons why India failed | Opinion | Cricinfo Magazine | Cricinfo.com

Harsha is spot on!

 

[AkshayS]

I agree there with Aditya123's post.

And for Friend 863, go through some stats and you'll find that our bowlers are far from being the worse in Test cricket. Possibly in many matches, they have done the main damage. After Kumble's retirement, Our fasters have taken much responsibility. Especially Zaheer Khan who had been our leader in bowling department.

 

[Brook]

Who are they better than then?

 

[Gurjot95]

And for Friend 863, go through some stats and you'll find that our bowlers are far from being the worse in Test cricket. Possibly in many matches, they have done the main damage. After Kumble's retirement, Our fasters have taken much responsibility. Especially Zaheer Khan who had been our leader in bowling department.

I never said they are worst but my point is most of the game is won by batsman.

 

[AkshayS]

I never said they are worst but my point is most of the game is won by batsman.

Your point was never like this. You've stated out bowlers as the worst before in this thread.

And for your kind info, you know very well that a game can not be won without taking 20 wickets of the opposition. How can you say our batsmen won us the game. It's team work, Batsmen put up decent totals but our bowlers have their part too by taking whole 20 wickets.