Mario Puzo mafia - Endgame (Yudi, Iri, Swirler, Smurf and Manly win)

[iridescentt]

I would've gladly taken the lynch at you last round, thank you very much.

 

[Zohaib]

Im still reading the thread will post my thoughts later

 

[AbhishekS]

Now this is difficult. Among all of the guys alive, I am not much suspicious of anyone, but still Swirler is on the top of my list for the sole reason being that his lynches have always been on the civilians!

Day - Swirler's Lynch (Result)
Day 1 - No lynch (Result: No lynch)
Day 2 - Mark (Result: No lynch)
Day 3 - Mark (Result: Mark, Civilian)
Day 4 - Iri (Result: Zhuorb, Corleone)

FOS: Swirler

@Haarithan: After your previous post (#255) I'm little suspicious of you too. The reason for which you have lynched Iri does not seem very wise to me. I think Iri's delay in hammering Zhuorb was justified as a discussion (a rare thing to happen in this game) was developing there and it would have made no sense in hurrying the hammer vote.
But then after all the discussion that had happened earlier, it was almost concluded that we are gonna lynch Zhuorb off. Not much time was left in the end of the day and so someone had to hammer. I feel that Iri delaying the hammer was pretty valid.
Not really defending Iri, just trying to say that the reason for which you have lynched him does not seem proper to me.

BTW I'm waiting for Manly's post of the day and Zohaib's views.

 

[Haarithan]

I'll honestly admit that I WAS initially more suspicious of swirler than Iri. It was either him or Iri for me. But the only reason helping swirler's case is that he could be the DV. Look at the people who lynched Mark:

Mark - 5 (BKB1991, Haari, Themer, User2010, Swirler)

With 7 required for a lynch, the most likely assumption is that Mark needed one vote less to get hammered and that one among the five voters is a DV. I know I'm not the DV. Also 3 of the remaining 4 are dead mafias, so it most probably isn't them either (Colin sucks otherwise!). So by the process of elimination, I'm guessing swirler's the DV. Not entirely sure, though I feel it's the most likely case.

Would much appreciate it if swirler clarified it himself...

Also my study holidays began today, so I should be fairly active now.

 

[AbhishekS]

With 7 required for a lynch, the most likely assumption is that Mark needed one vote less to get hammered and that one among the five voters is a DV. I know I'm not the DV. Also 3 of the remaining 4 are dead mafias, so it most probably isn't them either (Colin sucks otherwise!). So by the process of elimination, I'm guessing swirler's the DV. Not entirely sure, though I feel it's the most likely case.

Would much appreciate it if swirler clarified it himself...

Makes sense, but you cannot rule out the possibility of a mafia double voter completely.

Also my study holidays began today, so I should be fairly active now.

Off topic: Shouldn't you be studying in study holidays!

 

[puddleduck]

Off topic: Shouldn't you be studying in study holidays!

I know I'm not playing... but LYNCH YUDI for such a ridiculous suggestion....

Sorry Barmy, you can kick me out haha

 

[Haarithan]

Makes sense, but you cannot rule out the possibility of a mafia double voter completely.

Yeah I haven't. Hence why used 'most likely', 'most probably' in my previous post. Pretty much why I also stated 'Colin sucks otherwise!' - mafia DV is a really powerful role imo, and has rightly been non-existent in the games I've played till now.

Off topic: Shouldn't you be studying in study holidays!

I know I'm not playing... but LYNCH YUDI for such a ridiculous suggestion....

PD summed it up nicely lol. Seriously though, I have about a month's time for my exams, so it shouldn't really be a problem now.

 

[CremerCurrans]

I'll honestly admit that I WAS initially more suspicious of swirler than Iri. It was either him or Iri for me. But the only reason helping swirler's case is that he could be the DV. Look at the people who lynched Mark:

Mark - 5 (BKB1991, Haari, Themer, User2010, Swirler)

With 7 required for a lynch, the most likely assumption is that Mark needed one vote less to get hammered and that one among the five voters is a DV. I know I'm not the DV. Also 3 of the remaining 4 are dead mafias, so it most probably isn't them either (Colin sucks otherwise!). So by the process of elimination, I'm guessing swirler's the DV. Not entirely sure, though I feel it's the most likely case.

Would much appreciate it if swirler clarified it himself...

Also my study holidays began today, so I should be fairly active now.

I'm actually a triple voter, and a civilian.

I'm having trouble working out who's who, my judgement hasn't been great so far in the game. It's hard to get any solid evidence on anyone, we all seem to be playing it safe.

Haarithan has started up some good conversation though, which is positive.

 

[Zohaib]

Well I read most of it but cant find much other than Zhurob suspicious posting on the last few days.

The lynching of Mark, 2 of those that lynched him are still in the game those 2 are haarth and Swirler. This probably doesnt mean much as BKB did well to get him lynched by creating suspicion on him.


And whilst haarth lynched Zhuorb, Swirler didnt, weird.

I am really suspicious of Swirler right now, and a little of Haarth.

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Just wondering Swirler is doing something similar to Zhourb, he claimed his role but doesnt claim his character. Zhourb did vise versa, he claimed his character but didnt claim his role.

 

[ved_]

Zohaib, by the way, you have posted my name in 3 different ways- Zhurob,Zhourb and Zhuorb. Correct it please. Anyway it's just a ghost post, but I kinda like this game now.

 

[Manly]

Just the kind of night I was hoping for. 3 mafs taken to the cleaners.

A fairly straightforward write-up:

Para 1 talking about a new member replacing Zhuorb as the Corleon's godfather and killing two Barzinis along with the help of a hitman.

Para 2 looks like MaD's killed after attempting to recruit someone?

Para 3 is interesting. Sounds like the cop's officially a Barzini then?

Para 4 looks like an untroubled person saving his role for later purpose.

Right, it's that stage of the game where lynches have got to be spot on, and from what I've seen, swirler's looked suspicious for not casting his vote on Zhuorb when the latter looked incredibly scummy yesterday. Also he was fairly confident on irridescent giving him scum vibes? Would like some explanation from him. Until then,

Lynch: swirler

This. Just keeping an eye on it, nothing major yet.

The deaths of Tattaglia and of Don here. Not too sure what to take from the last sentence though, probably just a precursor to the next paragraph.



Sonny Corleone, the new head of the Corleone family. Unsure of the second bit as to how it occurred, but its depicting the death of Clemenza [MaD].



Definite cop role reporting back to the new head of the Barzini family. He got a hit this time.



Following suite with the last paragraph, possibly referring to the new nature of Barzini's (?)

My suspicions have laid with Haarithan for the better part of the past 2-3 days. His intentions correlate to that of the mafia for the most part of the game for mine. For better or for worse his lynch on Zhuorb was rushed and quite direct - forceful at best - a method of concealment.

For that reason I'm heading with my gut feeling here.

Lynch: Haarithan

Gut feelings very rarely work in this game. Very rarely.

FoS

Going back to Day 2 where Mark was lynched with 2 away from the hammer, I feel Swirler's probably the DV.

Unlynch: swirler



I clearly gave my reasons behind lynching Zhuorb yesterday - the post where he expressed he didn't want to roleclaim, only later for himself to claim to be just a vanilla was a fairly scummy post, good enough to get lynched. How's that even got to do with me being forceful at best?

If anyone, it was you who was bored to lynch him and 'forcefully at best' cast the hammer vote:

Lynch: irridesscent

But then this. Very weak play from Haari. Why on earth would you change your vote so quickly if you've given such good reasons for lynching swirler. Seems quite suspicious to me mate.

Now this is difficult. Among all of the guys alive, I am not much suspicious of anyone, but still Swirler is on the top of my list for the sole reason being that his lynches have always been on the civilians!

Day - Swirler's Lynch (Result)
Day 1 - No lynch (Result: No lynch)
Day 2 - Mark (Result: No lynch)
Day 3 - Mark (Result: Mark, Civilian)
Day 4 - Iri (Result: Zhuorb, Corleone)

FOS: Swirler

@Haarithan: After your previous post (#255) I'm little suspicious of you too. The reason for which you have lynched Iri does not seem very wise to me. I think Iri's delay in hammering Zhuorb was justified as a discussion (a rare thing to happen in this game) was developing there and it would have made no sense in hurrying the hammer vote.
But then after all the discussion that had happened earlier, it was almost concluded that we are gonna lynch Zhuorb off. Not much time was left in the end of the day and so someone had to hammer. I feel that Iri delaying the hammer was pretty valid.
Not really defending Iri, just trying to say that the reason for which you have lynched him does not seem proper to me.

BTW I'm waiting for Manly's post of the day and Zohaib's views.

This list is a good point to bring up, suspicious voting pattern there, usually mafia pick and choose their targets and I can't see past this in fairness.

Seems like you are.. Mafia buddies?!?!?!?

I'm actually a triple voter, and a civilian.

I'm having trouble working out who's who, my judgement hasn't been great so far in the game. It's hard to get any solid evidence on anyone, we all seem to be playing it safe.

Haarithan has started up some good conversation though, which is positive.

Say whaaaaaaaat?!

Well I read most of it but cant find much other than Zhurob suspicious posting on the last few days.

The lynching of Mark, 2 of those that lynched him are still in the game those 2 are haarth and Swirler. This probably doesnt mean much as BKB did well to get him lynched by creating suspicion on him.


And whilst haarth lynched Zhuorb, Swirler didnt, weird.

I am really suspicious of Swirler right now, and a little of Haarth.

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Just wondering Swirler is doing something similar to Zhourb, he claimed his role but doesnt claim his character. Zhourb did vise versa, he claimed his character but didnt claim his role.

That's very straws-clutchy in my opinion.


All in all I'm going to go for Haari, the way he changed his vote suddenly doesn't sit right for such an experienced player.

Lynch: Haarithan

 

[Haarithan]

I take it that's your only post of the day. A wasteful post is all I can say Ben. You clearly seemed to have missed this post of mine:

I'll honestly admit that I WAS initially more suspicious of swirler than Iri. It was either him or Iri for me. But the only reason helping swirler's case is that he could be the DV. Look at the people who lynched Mark:

Mark - 5 (BKB1991, Haari, Themer, User2010, Swirler)

With 7 required for a lynch, the most likely assumption is that Mark needed one vote less to get hammered and that one among the five voters is a DV. I know I'm not the DV. Also 3 of the remaining 4 are dead mafias, so it most probably isn't them either (Colin sucks otherwise!). So by the process of elimination, I'm guessing swirler's the DV. Not entirely sure, though I feel it's the most likely case.

Would much appreciate it if swirler clarified it himself...

Also my study holidays began today, so I should be fairly active now.

Were it not for swirler being a TV, he still would have been my top suspect. I checked out on Mark's lynches only after posting my initial suspicions/lynch on swirler, so while it does look scummy to immediately change my lynch, I did produce a valid reason in the end.

Also I don't at all mind claiming if need be.

 

[iridescentt]

Late game scrubbing in mafia, please. Had it not been for me chasing your tail for the past day or two you wouldn't have un-lynched swirler. TV or not, throughout each day and night nothing has been suggested which supports swirler's alignment with either of the families, yet you decide to lynch him? As of now, he's an asset.

A civilian kill in the early game context was a given [in reference to Mark's kill]. I don't see anyone hating on any of the other players when Smurf or MaD went down.

Role claim while you can.

 

[Haarithan]

I'm Appollonia Vitelli, Mason, Civilian aligned

Wife of Michael Corleone (Papa Smurf), who's dead now. We shared a common QT before Smurf perished. Other than that, I don't boast any special powers.

Some were suspicious because they were civilians and some were suspicious because they were rivals. The end result was the same. His political connections couldn't save him, nor could his family members without putting themselves in danger too. The godfather, Don Vito Corleone, met his end at last.

Zhuorb is dead. He was Don Corleone, Corleone Aligned.

Vote count

Highlander999 - 1 (Zhuorb)
Zhuorb - 6 (Themer, User2010, MaD, Haari, Manly, iridescentt)
Iridescentt - 1 (Swirler)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Look at this gem from Colin:

"Some were suspicious because they were civilians and some were suspicious because they were rivals."

Zhuorb - 6 (Themer, User2010, MaD, Haari, Manly, iridescentt)

Rivals (Barzinis) - Themer, User2010
Corleone - MaD, ??? (note the word 'family members', meaning more than one Corleone voted for Zhourb)
Civilians - Has to be Ben and me.

Clearly I was leading up the lynch on Zhuorb strongly, unlike iridesscent, who was far too reluctant before eventually casting the hammer vote (again only reluctantly). Really can't find a better explanation to prove that Iridesscent's mafia. swirler, zohaib, Smurf, Yudi - here's your present...

 

[iridescentt]

Reluctance would be an understatement. A lynch on you in that context would be irrelevant, no? There was an opportunity and so I went for it. Tell me that wasn't the right call. Not only in your argument do you fail to account for the others who would've been in my position, but you can certainly surmise it based on that it just "has to be".

By the way - here's the kicker - you've faulted on your role claim. Apollonia + mason you may be, civilian-aligned you are not. She remained faithful to Michael and was embraced as a Corleone, although her surname might not reflect that. Henceforth she remains largely 'aligned' with the Corleones in that sense through marriage. #TheGodfather #fanboy