Mini Mafia 2 - End Game. Mafia (Barmyarmy) wins

He claimed cop because he saw the cop was dead and thought he could get away with it. He knew there wouldn't two cops.
I honestly get fed up playing this game with you sometimes User. You seem wilfully blind to obvious stuff or, in the last game we played, you act scummy and make me lynch you instead of the mafia.
Add it up and see what makes sense. Two cops or an inventor and a tracker?
 
I'm sure because I know hedger is lying about investigating him. Hedger was seen around BKB not Varun last night.

lol, and you immediately throw away the possibility that I could be bussing Varun? I know it'd be unlikely but if you were town, you'd be open to more possibilities, especially as I'm a good enough player to bus my own teammate. Of course, I'm town and you're mafia so this doesn't apply but whatever.

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And also, barmy, why wouldn't you track puddleduck after he claimed miller? Since a cop wouldn't have been able to clear him, that meant tracker would have been the only way to clear him. I understand you may have thought he was clear but still, it'd have been smarter to at least try clearing puddle as a scummy role.
 
Well I haven't thought about there being a mafia framer or me being insane but I'm still fairly certain you and barmy are the mafia pairing.

What I mean is you should be 100% sure on Colin, and not on me, as if you're the cop there's still a chance something tricky is going on here, but if you're cop, Colin is 100% lying. If I was the cop, I would go by that.

But then, getting everyone to lynch me is an easier option that getting everyone to lynch Colin, isn't it?

User, you're mistaken that insane cop with a miller is ridiculous, because if hedger is insane, it almost implies PD is lying and is mafia, and is possibly partner with Colin. And you're not cleared in any way either. Actually, none of us is cleared.

But I feel going for hedger is the best choice here.

Lynch: Hedger
 
Vote Count
Hedger_14 (2) - Barmyarmy, Varun
Varun (1) - Hedger_14


With 5 alive, it takes 3 for a majority.
 
What I mean is you should be 100% sure on Colin, and not on me, as if you're the cop there's still a chance something tricky is going on here, but if you're cop, Colin is 100% lying. If I was the cop, I would go by that.

Well I'm 100% sure it's both you and barmy. So it doesn't really matter to me who we lynch out of you two cause I know you're both mafia. And as you said, I doubt insane cop and miller are going to be in the game so yeah, that just gives me more reason to believe you're mafia.
 
I considered the possibility of an insane cop, but with a miller I couldn't see how that would have made any sense.

To me, my role makes more sense to me in terms of believing Barmy. I have felt the tracker/inventor combo just makes more sense to me as a miller.

However, I'm also looking at who has accused who, and I'll give the thread a proper read over (GF is here so she keeps scowling when I ignore her and try and read all this ha). Zhuorb and Hedger seemed mafia because Barmy accused Hedger once they had worked together. We now know that Zhourb was town, and as such the idea that Hedger and Zhuorb were working together collapses. It also means Hedger and Varun were probably not working together as Hedger fingered Varun as mafia.

So then, there is User/Varun/Barmy. Or Hedger/User.

I can't help but feel that Barmy has maybe been shafted as mafia by Zhuorb's mod killing. That in Zhuorb being killed his setting up of Hedger/Zhuorb has become harder.

This said, I'm still stuck on the point of my role/investigative roles in this game. Maybe Hedger could be insane/paranoid cop forcing BKB to have to use his one shot investigation to confirm... however, in thinking that, I think that were Hedger's role that way inclined, Barmy/User would be the mafia combo, and almost certainly would have pushed for Varun to be lynched...

So, I'm ruling out paranoid/insane cop role, and am still left at either Hedger is cop, and this game has been strangely balanced, or Hedger is lying, and his mafia partner is User.

Hmm, this is pretty difficult, but I think User did make the perhaps telling post of quietly confirming himself as town vanilla in a game that is seemingly filled with roles.

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I think I'm basically answering my own musings. It kind of has to be Hedger, the game balance depends on it... Which makes User his partner. User as godfather, Hedger as killer?
 
Maybe Hedger could be insane/paranoid cop forcing BKB to have to use his one shot investigation to confirm... however, in thinking that, I think that were Hedger's role that way inclined, Barmy/User would be the mafia combo, and almost certainly would have pushed for Varun to be lynched...

In a short game you've usually only got two nights, sometimes three, to work with. Having to double check everyone because a town power role is dodgy is of massive advantage to the mafia.
As far as I can see Zhuorb's modkilling is good news for the town because we don't now lose a second night phase but I don't think it changes the game all that much. I play a quite cautious game usually and hate mis-lynching so, as such, I'm open to the idea that Hedger's partner could be any of the three of you. I think it's least likely to be Varun but he's a very skilled player so it's not impossible. I would obviously hope to survive the night and make a more informed choice tomorrow on the second mafia. This game is almost always about which explanation is most plausible. Tracker/Inventor is and Inventor/Cop isn't. I also find it interesting that Hedger has been forced to backtrack from his definite "Varun is mafia" into a "Well I might be an insane cop" position which tells me he isn't confident of being able to take Varun down.
I also find it interesting that User hasn't lynched anyone. I feel that he could potentially be waiting for a hammer opportunity to open. At the moment hedger is one away and he's not hammering him...
 
Yeah I'm leaning more and more to Hedger and User as the mafia combo. I wanted a response from you, and that is essentially what I feel.

I'm pretty prepared to lynch Hedger.Gonna make some food, and then give this a bit of a read through and check nothing stands out.
 
Well, alright. Let me believe Colin here and not Hedger and see what happens. I hate it when the game's future depends on what I do. I'm usually a confused townie more often than not.

Hedger, don't go nuts if you're town..

Lynch : Hedger
 
That's the hammer I believe... if Hedger is cop, well played Barmy and Varun :p
 
Don't worry. He was definitely lying about being cop.
You can figure out who the last mafia is tomorrow after I've been night killed...

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Also, at least from hedger's POV, he maintains his not lynched as town record.
 
*Fingers crossed*

You can figure out who the last mafia is tomorrow after I've been night killed...

I am the roleblocker, you see. I can save you if I hit the right target.
 
Day 2​

Vote Count
Hedger_14 (3) - Barmyarmy, Varun
Varun (1) - Hedger_14


With 5 alive, it took 3 for a majority.

Confusion, mistakes and success shall be the perfect words to explain day 2 for the townies. After some good discussion, it was finally decided that they will lynch Hedger and guess what? They succeeded in getting a mafia. Now, is the road ahead easy to victory or difficult, is perhaps the question for which townies need to find an answer!

Hedger is dead, he was;

Mafia Godfather, Mafia Aligned

You are the mafia godfather. Each night, you may send in the name of one player who you want to kill at night and I?d revert back, letting you know whether you were successful or not.

You win when all the threats to mafia are killed.

It is night 2 now, send in your roles to me. You have 24 hours to do so but failing to send in your roles within the given time will mean in you failing to use your role​
 

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