Mini Mafia 2 - End Game. Mafia (Barmyarmy) wins

[puddleduck]

Ok I think Hedger killed BKB and Zhuorb and him are now trying to frame Varun.

I'm thinking there is no cop, and that as miller I was in the game as a potential red herring to the only investigative chance we had. Tracker is in because it's a godfather/goon combo with one having to officially carry out the kill and as such Barmy was basically a cop.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Maaaan. Total bullshit.
Lynch:Varun
I have a strange feeling BKB used his crystal to investigate Varun and hence he was pushing on Varun to be lynched. Sad that we were not supporting him for it.

I got a mafia, I got a mafia, yes I did! The night BKB died was the only night where people could use their roles. It was day 1 when he might have lynched Varun. How do you say he used his crystal on Varun and then pushed his lynch? Slip? I think Hedger and Zhuorb are the mafias now with those posts.

But, I'm not going to lynch anyone yet. I will wait and see what others think and what Varun has to say plus how does Zhuorb explain this.

 

[barmyarmy]

@PD - there was a cop. Read BKB's description. He had one investigate and one protect.

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah, I read it, he's the inventor. No actual cop role is what I'm saying. I don't think there is a cop as a result of that death. I think my being miller was just there to be a potential red herring to his one chance to investigate.

I think Zhuorb and Hedger are mafia together and have setup Varun. I think Hedger has claimed cop as a result of me being so sure there was one in the game. Now I don't think there is. Like I said, you are essentially the cop, as your ability to track means you can see that a mafia made a kill. Which if Hedget visited Varun last night, means he's the killer.

 

[barmyarmy]

Hedger visited BKB not Varun as he claimed. I'm just annoyed because I've been forced to claim and BKB was potentially the only doc so I may as well start writing my last will and testament...

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah sorry got confused there. I mean Hedger visted BKB, so I think he's the killer, and you have tracked him.

Lynch: Hedger

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Unlynch: Hedger

Just because, if you're lying, then you and Varun are mafia... which is possible. I do think it's Zhuorb and Hedger though.

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FOS: Hedger I want to hear something from everyone else first.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Maaaan. Total bullshit.
Lynch:Varun
I have a strange feeling BKB used his crystal to investigate Varun and hence he was pushing on Varun to be lynched. Sad that we were not supporting him for it.

I got a mafia, I got a mafia, yes I did! The night BKB died was the only night where people could use their roles. It was day 1 when he might have lynched Varun. How do you say he used his crystal on Varun and then pushed his lynch? Slip? I think Hedger and Zhuorb are the mafias now with those posts.

But, I'm not going to lynch anyone yet. I will wait and see what others think and what Varun has to say plus how does Zhuorb explain this.

Missed this, guys? Zhuorb seems to be a confirmed mafia..

 

[Varun]

Okay, here we have our two mafia.

I'm the town roleblocker. Although I fully expect no one to believe me completely as in a 7-player game roleblocker is almost always a mafia role, but I don't want you to blindly lynch me either before hearing what I have to say. Probably hedger, and definitely Zhuorb are mafia here. Hedger because of what barmy said, and Zhuorb because his reason for lynching me isn't, well, very intelligent, because there wasn't any Night 0 and simply is a desperate attempt to get my lynched off obviously as I was the one gunning for him aggressively on Day 1. All this adds up to his posts on Day 1, and his statement that lynching him would be game over. If he was the cop, then sure. But he isn't (not saying that hedger is). Granted I may be mafia and gunning for him was merely to exploit his weak points, as mafia do, but it's obvious who's behaving more bizzarely.

Lynch: Zhuorb

It's a possibility hedger isn't mafia, but there are some likely mafia scenarios (which includes if Colin is lying) which make it very low. I will post them after this post in another one so that this post doesn't become too lengthy.

And by the way, I roleblocked BKB last night. That post of him lynching me did seem a bit suspicious to me, and I was considering a BKB-Zhuorb scum duo. I went for him because the killer of the two was more likely to go under the radar and wouldn't want to attract too much attention.

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Edit: Has to be 'most probably hedger' there. Doesn't matter much, but I want to put the right emphasis on the extent of my suspicions.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Am I the only one without any role? Damn you, Aditya!

 

[puddleduck]

I am more inclined to lynch Zhuorb today, and you roleblock Hedger tonight. Not entirely sold on your roleblock claim though.

 

[barmyarmy]

I totally agree that it's probably Zhuorb and Hedger but not sure why we would take such a risk at MyLo. Zhuorb is about 80% mafia but unless there is something very strange going on hedger is 100% mafia.
Don't quite understand why Varun, despite hedger claiming a guilty result on him, is more keen to lynch Zhuorb.

 

[Varun]

Ok, so the three possible scenarios.

Scenario 1: Hedger and Zhuorb are mafia and trying to frame me as I've been gunning for Zhuorb and in turn have picked up some suspicion. Killing BKB was an obvious choice - the doc was going to protect Colin/Pd/User, and BKB lynched me so that would make me easy to frame. Zhuorb messed up his reasoning though, and his desperateness is obvious. This is the most likely scenario. Although pd being Miller is weird, but then BKB did have a one-shot investigation.

Scenario 2: Hedger is the cop, and I'm mafia. Colin is my mafia partner as he's said that he tracked Hedger and found that he didn't target me but BKB. But then how do we explain Zhuorb's desperateness, and the presence of virtually two cops in the game, and no preventive roles whatsoever? (I presume Zhuorb isn't claiming doc or something?) If I and Colin are mafia, and Zhuorb isn't doc/jk/town roleblocker, then after BKB's death the town doesn't have any preventive roles. User has claimed to be a vanilla townie.

Scenario 3: Someone out of User2010 or Puddleduck is mafia. That seems unlikely although the thought of there being a mafia framer did come to my mind. But with the presence of miller, that'd make mafia very overpowered, considering that Pd isn't himself the framer.

Scenario 1 is easily the most likely one, although with my role, and claims of Colin being my partner (no one trusts him completely) I don't think it's fairly obvious to everyone.

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Zhuorb is about 80% mafia but unless there is something very strange going on hedger is 100% mafia.
Don't quite understand why Varun, despite hedger claiming a guilty result on him, is more keen to lynch Zhuorb.

Becuase Zhuorb is confirmed mafia for me. Read scenario 3.

 

[puddleduck]

I think the reason I'd be more inclined to lynch Zhuorb, is that if I'm being lied to, then Hedger is the cop and would be a massive loss.

I think I could lynch either really, but I guess I'm not entirely sold on Varun and Barmy not possibly being the mafia. I will wait for Hedger and Zhuorb to potentially talk their way out of this, or more likely tie their own noose.

 

[ved_]

I'd rather go ahead and claim, seeing that my role is as useless as a refrigerator in Pluto, I'm the beloved princess. If I die, the following day phase will be skipped. Hence I said yesterday, that if I am lynched, the mafia can perform 2 kills + the mislynch on me, which means that out of 4, 2 mafia are left and the mafia win. However, if someone else was town and mislynched, we would still be able to carry on. That explains my statement.
Now we have kerplucking lost the game, because even if we lynch right, I will be killed since there is no protective role, resulting in the next day being skipped and the mafia winning.

 

[Varun]

Lol nicely done, Zhuorb. That role - it makes lynching you very risky, and lynching hedger is already risky. I'm not convinced at all though.

Oh yeah, that makes it impossible to lynch you - because once you're lynched it'd be a loss for town nearly everytime. You yourself admitted that there are no preventive roles, and BKB's role was only one shot. So suppose BKB had used his protect role on Night 1 and had been successful - there were no town deaths, then lynching you on Day 1 would cost us the game...........the only scenarios where lynching you wouldn't cost us the game would only be the ones in which BKB would preserve his role to the end, and use it on the correct person. Or we keep on No Lynching till I don't know when.

You could've claimed doc/town roleblocker and at least given you that slight chance to pull off the win as mafia. But the game itself doesn't support you at all, man.

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And wait, you said the day's phase is skipped if you die. So if a town is lynched on Day 1, and the mafia kill you, they stand a strong chance of winning the game without even needing Day 2. Absurd.