Draft: One-Test Wonders

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:saf: :ar: Adrian Kuiper

Test stats
: 34 runs @ 17.00 (best 34) in 1 match
First-class stats: 7,899 runs @ 32.24 (9 centuries, best 161*) and 196 wickets @ 29.73 (4 5WI, best 6/55) in 165 matches

Yeah, I know, another South African all-rounder. He's another one who potentially doesn't have the best stats behind him, but he does have the ability to absolutely turn a match around out of nowhere with his aggressive strokeplay. Although he certainly could bowl well, he's probably going to be our fifth-choice seamer in this team, behind Adams, Le Roux, Morkel and Parks. Not a bad fifth choice to have. I don't particularly mind if he takes risks with bat in hand either, as we're going to end up with batting down to about number nine.

1.
2. :eng: :ar: Jim Parks
3. :ire: :bat: Ed Joyce
4. :eng: :bat: Paul Parker
5. :saf: :ar: Adrian Kuiper
6. :saf: :ar: Albie Morkel
7. :saf: :ar: Fred le Roux
8. :nzf: :ar: Andre Adams
9.
10.
11. :sri: :bwl: Dinuka Hettiarachchi

12th man - :eng: :bwl: JJ Ferris
 
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I'll go with South African quick Tertius Bosch, whose only Test was also South Africa’s first after their return to international cricket. He ranked alongside Allan Donald as the quickest South African bowler of his era.
He picked up 210 wickets in 68 FC matches at an average of 27.

CerealKiller's XI
1. :eng: Mark Benson :bat:
2.
3.
4.
5. :aus: Stuart Law :bat:
6. :ind: Naman Ojha :wkb:
7. :aus: James Faulkner :ar:
8. :wi: Rangy Nanan :ar:
9. :eng: Jack Durston :bwl:
10. :saf: Tertius Bosch :bwl:
11. :saf: Gobo Ashley :bwl:
Completely forgot that i picked Jack Durston, i copied my lineup from the post in which i made the pick right before him. Edited him in now. If i'd noticed, i would've gone for a batsman instead of Bosch
 
@Aislabie missed his window so I have the next pick.

My next pick is the brother of my last pick Edward Grace
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Stats|Matches|Runs|HS|:bat: Ave|100s/50s|Wkts|BBI|BBM|:bwl: Ave|Econ|5w/10w
First-Class |314|10,025|192*|18.66|5/44|305|10/69|?|20.37|2.77|17/2
Test |1|36|36|18.00|0/0|-|-|-|-|-|-

His bio from cricinfo:

"Edward Mills Grace died on May 20 after a long illness at his residence, Park House, Thornbury, Gloucestershire. But for the accident that his own brother proved greater than himself, E. M. Grace would have lived in cricket history as perhaps the most remarkable player the game has produced. Barring W.G., it would be hard indeed to name a man who was a stronger force on a side or a more remarkable match winner. Primarily, he was a batsman, but his value in an eleven went far beyond his power of getting runs. As a fieldsman at point--at a time when that position was far more important than it is in modern cricket--he never had an equal, and, though he did not pretend to be a first-rate bowler, he took during his career thousands of wickets. In his young days he bowled in the orthodox round-arm style, but his success in club cricket was gained by means of old-fashioned lobs. Fame came to him early in life. Born on November 28th, 1841, he made his first appearance at Lord's in 1861, and a year later he was beyond question the most dangerous bat in England. It was in the Canterbury Week in 1862 that, playing as an emergency for the M.C.C. against the Gentlemen of Kent, he scored 192 not out, and took all ten wickets in one innings. This was a 12 a-side and one man was absent in the second innings when he got the ten wickets. He reached his highest point as a batsman in 1863, scoring in all matches that year over 3,000 runs.

After the season was over he went to Australia as a member of George Parr's famous team, but it cannot be said that in the Colonies he did all that was expected of him. He was handicapped by a bad hand, but, as he himself stated, there was another reason for his comparative lack of success. At the start of the tour he fell into rather a reckless style of batting, and, try as he would, he could not get back to his proper method. Still, he did some good things, scoring, for example, 106 not out in a single-wicket match. He had not been back in England more than two years before W.G., as a lad of eighteen, began to put him in the shade. The two brothers were in the Gentlemen's eleven together in 1865--W. G.'s first year in the representative match--and had a share in gaining for the Gentlemen their first victory at Lord's since 1853. While he was qualifying as a surgeon E. M. Grace to a certain extent dropped out of first-class cricket, but he came very much to the front again on the formation of the Gloucestershire County Club in 1871. He was secretary from the start, and held his post without a break till his resignation in 1909.

In Gloucestershire's early days he renewed the successes of his youth, batting especially well in August 1872, when W.G. was away in Canada with the amateur eleven captained by the late R. A. Fitzgerald. It is matter of common knowledge that chiefly through the efforts of the three Graces--G. F. died in 1880-- Gloucestershire rose to the top of the tree, being champion county in 1876 and again in 1877. Not till the first Australian team played at Clifton in 1878 did the Gloucestershire eleven know what it was to be beaten at home. One of the greatest triumphs of E. M. Grace's career came in 1880, when, strictly on his merits, he was picked to play for England at the Oval in the First Test Match with Australia in this country. After an extraordinary game England won by five wickets, the task of getting 57 runs in the last innings against Palmer and Boyle costing the side five of their best batsmen. E. M. and W. G. opened England's first innings, and scored over 90 runs together. W. G. made 152, and in Australia's second innings W. L. Murdoch just beat him by scoring 153 not out. Never has a finer match been seen.

E. M. Grace continued to play for Gloucestershire for many years, dropping out of the eleven after the season of 1894. Thenceforward his energies were devoted to club cricket, chiefly in connection with his own team at Thornbury. Lameness gradually robbed him of his old skill as a run-getter, but even in 1909, 119 wickets fell to his lobs. As a batsman E. M. Grace was unorthodox. Partly, it is thought, through using a full-sized bat while still a small boy, he never played with anything like W. G.'s perfect straightness, but his wonderful eye and no less wonderful nerve enabled him to rise superior to this grave disadvantage. He was perhaps the first right-handed batsman of any celebrity who habitually used the pull. In his young days batting was a very strict science, but he cared little for rules. If an open place in the field suggested runs the ball soon found its way in that direction. Personally, E. M. was the cheeriest of cricketers--the life and soul of the game wherever he played. It was a great misfortune that he could never be induced to write his recollections of the cricket field. His good stories could be numbered by the hundred, and in conversation he told them with immense vivacity."

Both Grace brothers will occupy my middle order as both are capable all-rounders

My Team so far:


1. :nzf: :bat: Rodney Redmond
2. :eng: :bat: Andy Lloyd
3. :sri: :bat: Naveed Nawaz
4. :eng: :bat: Buddy Oldfield
5. :eng: :ar: Fred Grace
6. :eng: :ar: Edward Grace
7. :pak: :wk: Zulqarnain Haider
8. :eng: :bwl: Charles Aubrey Smith
9.
10. :aus: :bwl: Mick Malone
11.

@El Loco you have the next pick
 
I'm going to take :ire: :wk: Niall O'Brien and figure out where he bats a little bit later. It may be as low as seven, which seems harsh

EDIT: Never mind
 
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Stuck for a genuine pace all-rounder. Went with John Hastings in the end.

1. :aus::bat: John Rutherford
2. :wi::wkb: Andy Ganteaume
3.
4. :wi::bat: Vic Stollmeyer
5.
6. :eng::bat: Frank Penn
7. :aus: :ar: John Hastings
8. :aus: :bwl: Len Johnson
9. :eng::bwl: Arnold Warren
10. :eng::bwl: Douglas Carr
11. :eng::bwl: Charles Marriott

@CerealKiller
 
My second opener will be Sep Kinneir, who averaged almost 33 in 525 FC innings, which was pretty good for his time, and was Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 1912.
Here’s his Wisden obituary
KINNEIR, SEPTIMUS PAUL, born at Corsham, Wilts., on May 13, 1873, died on October 16, whilst motor-cycling on his way home from playing golf. His death at the age of 55 removed one of the finest batsmen who ever played for Warwickshire. After assisting Wiltshire he, in 1898, threw in his lot with the Midland county, then moderately strong, and remained one of their most consistent run-getters until the break caused by the War. Of considerable experience at the age of twenty-five, he found first-class cricket quite congenial. Possessing exceptional grace of style without any of the exaggeration of pull that so often marks a left-handed batsman, Kinneir for the most part contented himself with patient defence and orthodox stroke play in which cutting and off-driving stood out prominently. Occasionally he departed from his usual custom and hit with freedom that made him most attractive to watch. He played specially well against fast bowling. For many seasons he rivalled Willie Quaife at the head of the Warwickshire batting averages and altogether was credited with 15,721 runs and an average of nearly 33 for a period of nineteen years. Against Leicestershire, at Leicester, in 1907, he carried his bat through both innings, making 70 not out and 69 not out. When Warwickshire won the County Championship in 1911 under the captaincy of F. R. Foster, Kinneir had the highest aggregate, 1,418 runs, averaging 44, and with 268 not out, against Hampshire at Birmingham, he established a batting record for Warwickshire while he scored two separate hundreds in the match against Sussex, at Chichester. On this form he was chosen for the Players at the Oval--and scored 158 and 53 not out, showing such steadiness that he was selected as the third left-handed batsman to go to Australia that winter under P. F. Warner. After opening the batting with Hobbs in the first Test match--this was lost-- Kinneir did not take part in any of the four games which under the command of J. W. H. T. Douglas--the official captain having been overtaken by illness during the first match of the tour--were won.

F. R. Foster and Barnes with the ball, Hobbs, Rhodes and Woolley with the bat, were the great match-winning factors that had most to do with bringing home the Ashes. As Warner himself said when the team came home: Kinneir, I am sure, would have made a lot of runs had he played regularly, but there was no room for him in the best eleven, his fielding being so moderate.

CerealKiller's XI

1. :eng: Mark Benson :bat:
2. :eng: Sep Kinneir :bat:
3.
4.
5. :aus: Stuart Law :bat:
6. :ind: Naman Ojha :wkb:
7. :aus: James Faulkner :ar:
8. :wi: Rangy Nanan :ar:
9. :eng: Jack Durston :bwl:
10. :saf: Tertius Bosch :bwl:
11. :saf: Gobo Ashley :bwl:

@Yash.
 
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:pak: :wk: Atiq uz-Zaman

Test stats
: 26 runs @ 13.00 (best 25) and 5 dismissals (5 ct) in 1 match
First-class stats: 2,521 runs @ 28.32 (3 centuries, best 115) and 226 dismissals (208 ct, 18 st) in 69 matches

Yeah I mean I just need a keeper really. Especially with NOB being invalid.

1.
2. :eng: :ar: Jim Parks
3. :ire: :bat: Ed Joyce
4. :eng: :bat: Paul Parker
5. :saf: :ar: Adrian Kuiper
6. :saf: :ar: Albie Morkel
7. :saf: :ar: Fred le Roux
8. :pak: :wk: Atiq uz-Zaman
9. :nzf: :ar: Andre Adams
10.
11. :sri: :bwl: Dinuka Hettiarachchi

12th man - :eng: :bwl: JJ Ferris
 
  1. :bat: :aus: Ken Eastwood
  2. ?
  3. ?
  4. :ar: :ind: Robin Singh
  5. :bat: :pak: Azmat Rana
  6. :wkb: :ind: Vijay Yadav
  7. :ar: :eng: George Pope
  8. :bwl: :eng: Charlie Parker
  9. :bwl: :ind: R. Vinay Kumar
  10. :bwl: :eng: Alec Coxon
  11. :bwl: :saf: Mike Macaulay
Mike Macaulay will be my pick.

STATISTICS
234 Wickets @ 22.89 (16 5WI, BBI :- 7/49) in 69 Matches

Mike Macaulay was a left arm seamer primarily, who made his first-class debut for Transvaal against Border in 1957-58, becoming a regular player in 1959-60. He continued to play domestic first-class cricket until a knee injury forced him to retire after the 1968-69 season. He also used to bowl left arm spin sometimes.

@Aislabie
 
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:pak: :wk: Atiq uz-Zaman

Test stats
: 26 runs @ 13.00 (best 25) and 5 dismissals (5 ct) in 1 match
First-class stats: 2,521 runs @ 28.32 (3 centuries, best 115) and 226 dismissals (208 ct, 18 st) in 69 matches

Yeah I mean I just need a keeper really. Especially with NOB being invalid.

1.
2. :eng: :ar: Jim Parks
3. :ire: :bat: Ed Joyce
4. :eng: :bat: Paul Parker
5. :saf: :ar: Adrian Kuiper
6. :saf: :ar: Albie Morkel
7. :saf: :ar: Fred le Roux
8. :pak: :wk: Atiq uz-Zaman
9. :nzf: :ar: Andre Adams
10.
11. :sri: :bwl: Dinuka Hettiarachchi

12th man - :eng: :bwl: JJ Ferris


A rather odd pick considering there’s still two other superb WKBs out there that I nearly picked over NOB myself until the very last moment. This guy is neither of them.
 
A rather odd pick considering there’s still two other superb WKBs out there that I nearly picked over NOB myself until the very last moment. This guy is neither of them.
It was him or Klaasen, but given that I have a bunch of aggressive players already I wanted someone who I could potentially shunt up the order as a blocker or night-watchman who could then convert that into a decent score. Having Klaasen, Kuiper, Morkel, Le Roux and Adams next to each other in the middle order sounds very dangerous indeed.

Whoever your other guy is, I've overlooked - but can't be that much better given that you picked NOB over him
 
It was him or Klaasen, but given that I have a bunch of aggressive players already I wanted someone who I could potentially shunt up the order as a blocker or night-watchman who could then convert that into a decent score. Having Klaasen, Kuiper, Morkel, Le Roux and Adams next to each other in the middle order sounds very dangerous indeed.

Whoever your other guy is, I've overlooked - but can't be that much better given that you picked NOB over him


Klassen would have been invalid considering he made his debut only last year and hasn’t retired yet.


Well, the guy in question was good enough to break into the all-conquering Windies team of the 1980s for his batting alone, so he can’t be that bad IMO.. Personally, I’ve way too many WI players in my lineup already so I opted for NOB for the sake of adding a few extra nationalities (if that sounds sensible :p.)
 
Well, the guy in question was good enough to break into the all-conquering Windies team of the 1980s for his batting alone, so he can’t be that bad IMO.. Personally, I’ve way too many WI players in my lineup already so I opted for NOB for the sake of adding a few extra nationalities (if that sounds sensible :p.)
That does make sense to be fair; it's like an uncapped XI draft - you can quite easily just pick eleven Apartheid era South Africans, but that's not the most enjoyable way to go about it. Although I think that's a little bit of a charitable description of Payne; he was there as Dujon's understudy and although he says he was good enough to play as a specialist batsman, six tons in 68 first-class games doesn't exactly support his argument. Although he does appear to be a better player than Atiq so your point absolutely stands.
 

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