Hey don't knock it, those boys were a massive part of my childhood! So Gas, how do you feel about PES now eh? Are you as moist as me about it?
I did say:
I never said it would be something which would decide whether I buy the game or not - it's just another small detail which they have ignored. It would just make the game look slightly more realistic on close-ups and replays.
I know, that's why I said "or", not "and" .
However, I do think that games need to move with the times and embrace the new technology to be great games - for example, SWOS was the best football game ever at the time it was released, but if you were given the same game on this hardware it would not be acceptable. PES has become like this to me - with it still being a PS1 game at it's core.
The "fans" who will buy PES no matter how terrible it is are the ones ruining it for the rest of us - if Konami had a year of seriously poor sales, they would know people won't just settle for the lack of development and would have to really put some time and effort in to gain back those customers. But with huge groups of people going and spending ?35+ on a game with really old gameplay and very few new features, why would they bother putting effort into improving it?
I wasn't comdemning PES 09 as awful, it's just my expectation of it based on info, videos etc.
That comment was more aimed at PES 08, that was one of the worst football games made for a long time (since Sven Goran Eriksson World Challenge to be exact), yet it was the best selling PES to date I think, which shows that some people will just accept anything if it's called "PES" and made by Konami.
I may get the demo, but as i'm not buying the game it may not be worth downloading. I may get it just to compare FIFA and PES, and to see if games magically become better than they appear in videos just because you are controlling it :.
And yeah, I said "next gen" because some people think you are referring to the PS2 generation when you say "current gen" I was avoiding people thinking that is what I meant, it is about time the PS3/360 generation is referred to as "current" by all .