puddleduck
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Day 2
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Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)
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BKB1991
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RPHKR
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Short writeup there PD. Seems you're busy.
Cult? The use of the word reintegration denotes the cult I think.
Death of BKB. Hmm, "Make it home", then he should have a role.
Any power role, 'out for another'. It might be cop, watcher/tracker, roleblocker or of that sorts.
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Gosh, I misread this one as "out for another". Somewhere out there was another. Possibly a backup of BKB's role.
Cult? The use of the word reintegration denotes the cult I think.
Death of BKB. Hmm, "Make it home", then he should have a role.
Any power role, 'out for another'. It might be cop, watcher/tracker, roleblocker or of that sorts.
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Gosh, I misread this one as "out for another". Somewhere out there was another. Possibly a backup of BKB's role.
thedon5
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Very short write-up indeed and I'm not sure we know much more regarding the roles in the game. Pretty much just Matt Prior confirmed.
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Yeah, KP was clearly the SK.
I'm not sure how a back-up would exactly work...
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Yeah, KP was clearly the SK.
I'm not sure how a back-up would exactly work...
ste_mc_efc
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i don't think there is a back up serial killer, i assumed it would be the matt prior character could recruit the kp character into the town faction
RPHKR
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^Someone out and there was another. It doesn't denote the Matt's role. Some sort of backup or recruiting roles.
Quoting BKB's post. Clearly he's the SK. If not he tried to confuse us.
Btw, PD you could use colored posts in death to denote their alignment.
Quoting BKB's post. Clearly he's the SK. If not he tried to confuse us.
Btw, PD you could use colored posts in death to denote their alignment.
Sedition
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Figured there was something weird about BKB. He was also on the totally pointless no lynch vote yesterday.
Followed up with no lynch by Varun and Ste when time had already expired
First two lines suggest to me that BKB was able to convert someone before being killed. First could possibly refer to a cult though, but "He didn't even make it home" in the second suggests that BKB was out using his role.
I thought the last line was a reference to a traitor/vampire. Mafia need to find and target him to convert. If BKB was able to convert someone, then it's possible there's another SK, but "if they could find him" suggests something more hidden.
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And as long as the odds are, it's also possible that the first line refers to Matt successfully converting KP back to town before he was killed.. seems kinda unlikely though.
puddleduck said:
Followed up with no lynch by Varun and Ste when time had already expired
puddleduck said:
First two lines suggest to me that BKB was able to convert someone before being killed. First could possibly refer to a cult though, but "He didn't even make it home" in the second suggests that BKB was out using his role.
I thought the last line was a reference to a traitor/vampire. Mafia need to find and target him to convert. If BKB was able to convert someone, then it's possible there's another SK, but "if they could find him" suggests something more hidden.
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And as long as the odds are, it's also possible that the first line refers to Matt successfully converting KP back to town before he was killed.. seems kinda unlikely though.
Abhas
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Very confusing indeed. I'm a bit surprised that bkb's alignment has not been revealed on his death. We don't know if he actually was the SK or not..
Reintegration could begin would mean something happened which has allowed "reintegration".. Probably bkb's death or some other night action altogether caused this.. Can't seem to figure out what exactly could it mean, but on the face of it, looks like a cult/mason.
I agree with sedition on the last point that it could be a recruitable mafia..
It could also mean matt prior has to keep looking, because there may be someone else..
Reintegration could begin would mean something happened which has allowed "reintegration".. Probably bkb's death or some other night action altogether caused this.. Can't seem to figure out what exactly could it mean, but on the face of it, looks like a cult/mason.
I agree with sedition on the last point that it could be a recruitable mafia..
It could also mean matt prior has to keep looking, because there may be someone else..
Gaurav_7
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I think the first refers to Matt curing KP?
Second refers to KP's death. The big cheese refers to the mafia? Also, he couldn't even make it home might mean KP used his role which we are assuming to be a SK? But, there's only one death?
I don't really get what 3rd means. Another what? SK? Surely that can't happen.
Sedition
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A couple of possible scenarios with KP being out, but no successful kill.
Could just be that he was "out" whilst being converted to town and wasn't actually attempting a kill or conversion of his own. If the Matt Prior role didn't target BKB however, then it seems that he was probably able to do something nefarious before the mafia got him.
We can rule out the mafia roleblocking BKB since it would be pointless to block and kill the same person. Also a town jailkeeper blocking BKB would have also saved him from the kill.
So it looks like one of these scenarios:
-Matt successfully targeted KP and converted him and then the mafia arrived. I didn't think it seemed likely with so many players, but considering BKB played well last game, it's not out of the question for him to be targeted by multiple roles early this game.
- KP was cult leader or yakuza and successfully converted someone before being killed. Not sure how that fits with the Matt Prior curing role though.
- KP attempted to kill but his target was protected and the first line refers to some other conversion taking place.
Not a great deal of conclusion that can be drawn from that, would be good to know if Matt did indeed target BKB, but too early to start calling for claims I feel.
With that out of the way, there's not much else to do than tie up a few nooses. I'll go back to those wanting to speed up and already short Day 1 with their no lynch vote. There's 2 types of players eager to get to night - town PRs and scum. The scum know who they are, so they also have a good idea that you're a PR if you're on this list:
No Lynch (4) - thedon, User, Aditya, BKB
So let's start with FOS: thedon
Quick to jump in and try to take the heat off Zhuorb, much like Aditya. Defending your mafia buddy or just trying to buddy with someone you know is town?
Hardly a move that's going to make it any more eventful..
It's good to know what your opinion is, even if it's the same as others. Not saying anything looks like you've got something to hide, don't want to give anything away perhaps.
So-called random lynches on people are definitely better than pushing for a quicker day with a no lynch. Nice attempt at quickly trying to throw suspicion over to Ste despite basically nothing at all to go on, to paraphrase your words.
Why are we talking about Ste again?
Any comments in particular from him that have him at the top of your list? Or just a good candidate for you to try to deflect the suspicion onto because he's new?
Your post was responding to Colin, at least initially, and he didn't FOS Ste.. Manly's post right after it did, along with 3 others and no analysis whatsoever, so why you felt the need to bring him up again is interesting. Very interesting indeed.
Could just be that he was "out" whilst being converted to town and wasn't actually attempting a kill or conversion of his own. If the Matt Prior role didn't target BKB however, then it seems that he was probably able to do something nefarious before the mafia got him.
We can rule out the mafia roleblocking BKB since it would be pointless to block and kill the same person. Also a town jailkeeper blocking BKB would have also saved him from the kill.
So it looks like one of these scenarios:
-Matt successfully targeted KP and converted him and then the mafia arrived. I didn't think it seemed likely with so many players, but considering BKB played well last game, it's not out of the question for him to be targeted by multiple roles early this game.
- KP was cult leader or yakuza and successfully converted someone before being killed. Not sure how that fits with the Matt Prior curing role though.
- KP attempted to kill but his target was protected and the first line refers to some other conversion taking place.
Not a great deal of conclusion that can be drawn from that, would be good to know if Matt did indeed target BKB, but too early to start calling for claims I feel.
With that out of the way, there's not much else to do than tie up a few nooses. I'll go back to those wanting to speed up and already short Day 1 with their no lynch vote. There's 2 types of players eager to get to night - town PRs and scum. The scum know who they are, so they also have a good idea that you're a PR if you're on this list:
No Lynch (4) - thedon, User, Aditya, BKB
So let's start with FOS: thedon
I don't. That's just Zhuorb being Zhuorb.
Quick to jump in and try to take the heat off Zhuorb, much like Aditya. Defending your mafia buddy or just trying to buddy with someone you know is town?
Hardly a move that's going to make it any more eventful..
What do you want me to say? Repeat the same observations others have made several times? Say "I'm here, but I have nothing productive to say, oh and btw I'm going to lynch this guy for no real reason"?
There's been very little other than the usual back and forth from you and Sedition, as well as some useless lynches here and there. The same could be about pretty much everyone in the game.
What about Mr. Meme
It's good to know what your opinion is, even if it's the same as others. Not saying anything looks like you've got something to hide, don't want to give anything away perhaps.
So-called random lynches on people are definitely better than pushing for a quicker day with a no lynch. Nice attempt at quickly trying to throw suspicion over to Ste despite basically nothing at all to go on, to paraphrase your words.
Why are we talking about Ste again?
Any comments in particular from him that have him at the top of your list? Or just a good candidate for you to try to deflect the suspicion onto because he's new?Your post was responding to Colin, at least initially, and he didn't FOS Ste.. Manly's post right after it did, along with 3 others and no analysis whatsoever, so why you felt the need to bring him up again is interesting. Very interesting indeed.
Just seems to me that Matt targeted KP before he could kill. Or maybe the mafia killed KP before he could kill. The write-up is too short to suggest anything, though.
I really don't have anyone on my scum-dar right now, so I'm just going to wait until someone does something stupid.
I really don't have anyone on my scum-dar right now, so I'm just going to wait until someone does something stupid.
thedon5
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A couple of possible scenarios with KP being out, but no successful kill.
Could just be that he was "out" whilst being converted to town and wasn't actually attempting a kill or conversion of his own. If the Matt Prior role didn't target BKB however, then it seems that he was probably able to do something nefarious before the mafia got him.
We can rule out the mafia roleblocking BKB since it would be pointless to block and kill the same person. Also a town jailkeeper blocking BKB would have also saved him from the kill.
So it looks like one of these scenarios:
-Matt successfully targeted KP and converted him and then the mafia arrived. I didn't think it seemed likely with so many players, but considering BKB played well last game, it's not out of the question for him to be targeted by multiple roles early this game.
- KP was cult leader or yakuza and successfully converted someone before being killed. Not sure how that fits with the Matt Prior curing role though.
- KP attempted to kill but his target was protected and the first line refers to some other conversion taking place.
Not a great deal of conclusion that can be drawn from that, would be good to know if Matt did indeed target BKB, but too early to start calling for claims I feel.
With that out of the way, there's not much else to do than tie up a few nooses. I'll go back to those wanting to speed up and already short Day 1 with their no lynch vote. There's 2 types of players eager to get to night - town PRs and scum. The scum know who they are, so they also have a good idea that you're a PR if you're on this list:
No Lynch (4) - thedon, User, Aditya, BKB
So let's start with FOS: thedon
Quick to jump in and try to take the heat off Zhuorb, much like Aditya. Defending your mafia buddy or just trying to buddy with someone you know is town?
Hardly a move that's going to make it any more eventful..
It's good to know what your opinion is, even if it's the same as others. Not saying anything looks like you've got something to hide, don't want to give anything away perhaps.
So-called random lynches on people are definitely better than pushing for a quicker day with a no lynch. Nice attempt at quickly trying to throw suspicion over to Ste despite basically nothing at all to go on, to paraphrase your words.
Why are we talking about Ste again?
Your post was responding to Colin, at least initially, and he didn't FOS Ste.. Manly's post right after it did, along with 3 others and no analysis whatsoever, so why you felt the need to bring him up again is interesting. Very interesting indeed.
Ste was being mentioned as one of the guys who was looking suspicious for lack of activity, so I was trying to suggest why he wasn't posting. In my first game I had no idea at all what was going on in the first day, so obviously he won't be posting much. It wasn't meant to sound like I was putting him on the top of my list, I was trying to put him at the bottom of my list.
I had no idea putting in a no lynch was meant to send such a signal... In the previous pages people had been putting in lynches for User, the point of a no lynch was to obviously show that I wasn't keen on lynching him as I felt he hadn't done enough wrong to merit all the pressure. The point of putting in a no lynch was also to show that I wasn't just lurking, that I was there... I could've just said "Hi" but I chose to put in the no lynch.
I said the thing about random lynching as that really was what it looked like others were doing...
Anyway, I'm not sure why you are singling me out, but hey, I'm happy to answer your questions if you feel I haven't played well enough so far.
Interesting theory. I speculated about an inquisitor earlier. If BKB was cult leader and recruited before being killed his recruitee may have become the new cult leader. That makes it very hard to find them as they could have had a power role before. Sometimes when the cult leaders dies people they've recruited die today but if PD is using the same system I used for Puzo mafia then we might have a new cult leader.
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@thedon5 - you're going to get some pressure on you cos, as I said last game, when you're a new player it's hard to get a read. We don't want to miss you or ste being mafia because we've ignored play we would pick up in other players because you're "new".
Like sedition was saying, you need to give you opinion on the write-up, on people's play etc.
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It could depend on priorities. If he tried to kill/recruit does that come before being found by Matt Prior and being killed?
Alternately there could have been two cult to start with, he didn't recruit but the other cult becomes cult leader after KP is cured (and killed).
Hmm that's what I have been thinking. I believe that KP should have killed before he died, that's what I'd prefer as game mechanics. This means that either he chose to no-kill or Matt Prior found him and converted him, thus eliminating his ability to kill, but the mafia eventually killed him.
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