Random Country Test Draft -- DONE. Time for comments/discussion

Grr, Mid table right through. Dead last pick as well!

Need to head to the drawing boards for a bit lads. Need to make this pick count.
 
Nice! I get first pick in the second round of England and second pick in the Australian round......mmmmm, off to celebarte with a pickled onion!
 
Vinoo Mankad

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India's first, and arguably best, allrounder. Vinoo Mankad was a fine batsman, bowler, and fielder which left me with no doubt when selecting him in my XI. He was the fastest Indian to the 1000runs/100 wickets double. He relished opening the batting, averaging close to 48 in that position and was part of that historic opening partnership of 413 with Pankaj Roy (a record that still stands today). With the ball, his wily left arm off spin left batsman clueless world over. He bagged 162 career wickets at just 32 a piece.

He easily slots himself as one of the top 10 greatest Indian cricketers of all time.

1. Sir Jack Hobbs (ENG)
2. Vinoo Mankad (IND)
3. Brian Lara (WI)
4.
5.
6. Aravinda De Silva (SL)
7.
8. Shaun Pollock (RSA)
9.
10. Shane Bond (NZ)
11.

Looking gooooood.
 
Just so the draft can get going I am taking Dravid. I am going to work right now so I will add the write up later.
 
Same here, Im at work so just to keep it up Ill make my Aussie pick:

Greg Chappell
 
Same here, I'm at work so just to keep it up Ill make my Aussie pick:

Greg Chappell


Bloody hell this is moving very fast. Me again! Right, lets see.....

Well with a view as to the placings of my remaining picks, I have decided to look at my number 3 spot. There are of course so many brilliant, brilliant players to come out of that fair land down under, and if one wanted to find a demon bowler or two they could be very satisfied indeed with the amount of unbelievable talent Australian cricket has produced throughout the decades.

And I must admit it is with a little bit of nervousness that I choose this player instead of the likes of (EDITED TO REMOVE POSSIBLE FUTURE PICKS - CM). But in return for letting those names pass me by I am getting a master of the game.

Not only a fantastic batsman but also one who, despite dips in form, brings with him a cricketing brain that is, as far as I am concerned, unrivaled in modern cricket. His constant thinking, reading of the game, judging of the situation and his magnificent enthusiasm, even after so many matches, makes him a player who ranks up there with the utter best that cricket has to offer.

His awareness as a captain makes him a force to be reckoned with and his tactical insight underpins that. Coupled with the fact that there aren't too many other people you'd want to have in the slips or close fielding, you can't go far wrong with this man.

Plus I need a character strong enough and at the same time ego-less enough to lead a side full of such prominent personalities.

A test average of over 55, nearly 12000 runs to his name and a real gritty character who personifies the Australian mentality of "it ain't over until it's over".....with great joy I bring into my team that wonderful batsman and captain, who will indeed captain my side, Ricky Thomas Ponting.


1. G C Smith
2. S Jayasuriya
3. R T Ponting (Capt.)
4. S R Tendulkar
5.
6. I T Botham
7.
8. D L Vetorri
9.
10.
11. C E L Ambrose
 
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YES YES YES!!! I LOVE YOU DUTCHAD!!! I was hoping to get both Lillee and Imran but I knew that was a bit of a distant dream. I know KP wanted both of them too.

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Dennis Lilee was the greatest fast bowler ever. If there was an argument, it could only be made for Malcolm Marshall or Sydney Barnes, and I am happy to say I have Sydney Barnes. When Lilee came into international cricket, he bowled at searing pace. In December 1971 he decimated a powerful World XI side in Perth, taking 8 for 29 in the first innings, and went on to claim 31 Test wickets at 17.67 during the 1972 Ashes tour. Unfortunately, he soon broke down with stress fractures. Many thought this was the end of Lillee's career. However, Lilee came back stronger than ever after rigorous and intensive physiotherapy and with a remodeled action. He didn't have the same pace but he outwitted batsmen with variations in length, pace and movement. Throughout his Australian career Lillee was also famous for his partnership with wicketkeeper Rod Marsh, and the scorecard entry 'c Marsh b Lillee' appeared 95 times in Tests, a partnership record between wicketkeeper and bowler that is yet to be broken.

- He was one of the Wisden Cricketers of the Year in 1973.
- He was selected in the official Australian Test Team of the Century.
- He was awarded the Australian Sports Medal in 2000.

In 70 tests Lilee took 355 wickets at an average of 23.92 at an economy of 2.75. He did this with a strike rate of 52.0 and took 23 four-fors, 23 five-fors. He also took 10 wickets in a match on 7 occasions.

1
Sunil Gavaskar
3
Graeme Pollock
Sir Vivian Richards
6
+ Brendon McCullum
8
Dennis Lillee
Sydney Barnes
Muttiah Muralitharan

DAYYYUM that is looking sexy.
 
O geeze. I was half expecting Shravi to take Lilee but I wasn't sure Ponting and Greg would go so quick. I thought two other guys would have been long gone by now and I had mentally prepared myself for another inferior, yet still quality, pick. Now one of them are guaranteed to be available and I know have a predicament on my hands - stick with my original pick or go with the new guy??

hmmmm
 
O geeze. I was half expecting Shravi to take Lilee but I wasn't sure Ponting and Greg would go so quick. I thought two other guys would have been long gone by now and I had mentally prepared myself for another inferior, yet still quality, pick. Now one of them are guaranteed to be available and I know have a predicament on my hands - stick with my original pick or go with the new guy??

hmmmm

There are loads of picks you could make for Australia. I just really wanted Lillee but even if I didn't get him, I could still have worked my way out of it just because of Australia's very rich cricketing history. No lack of great players.
 
Man, Dutchy's team has come alight in these last few rounds. He's picked up Botham, England's greatest ever allrounder, backed up by NZ's man in Vettori. The middle order is just wow, Ponting and Tendulkar in the same team is some immense stuff :eek:.

Shravi's as well, coming along nicely. He's more of a 'blast from the past' in comparison to Dutch though, with Greame and Viv making the middle order. Bowling looks pretty fearsome with Lilee, Murali, and of course Barnes. B-Mac is the only modern player in there (and a pretty good 'un at that).

I'm happy with my team so far. Got a rock solid opening combo in Hobbs and Mankad, who also doubles as a fine allrounder. Lara's in at three to give some real meat to that batting side. De Silva's a good batsman to have at 6 (Probably Sri Lanka's finest middle order bat), and the Pollock/Bond combo is pretty deadly in my humble opinion. :p Pretty balance teams so far, good draft so far gentlemen!
 
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Great pick Shrav. Would have loved Lillee in my side, would really have made up for the lack of pace bowling in my side. Be interesting to see who everyone else goes for before my pick. I've definitely got a couple of names in mind in varying positions, and a couple of guys I wanted have already gone (Chappell and Lillee). Really could do with a few picks going my way, not been too happy with my selections thus far, especially that of Lohmann, should have gone with who I had in mind first. Ah well, have to hope I get a few guys I want in these next couple of picks.
 
A while to go yet till ZD makes his pick (close to 2AM in the UAE)

Hopefully he doesn't pick my guy...
 
Great pick Shrav. Would have loved Lillee in my side, would really have made up for the lack of pace bowling in my side. Be interesting to see who everyone else goes for before my pick. I've definitely got a couple of names in mind in varying positions, and a couple of guys I wanted have already gone (Chappell and Lillee). Really could do with a few picks going my way, not been too happy with my selections thus far, especially that of Lohmann, should have gone with who I had in mind first. Ah well, have to hope I get a few guys I want in these next couple of picks.


I know it may be a bit of an ask but would it be possible to have an overview of each persons team to date in the first post as well as an overview of the picks by country as it were?

It would enable people to see each team in a nice tidy manner without having to go through each page or put the teams together in their minds from the picks, if you see what I mean.

Really enjoying the draft and reading peoples comments: intelligent and enjoyable and obviously done by people with both knowledge of and enthusiasm for this great game.

dutchad added 2 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

Man, Dutchy's team has come alight in these last few rounds. He's picked up Botham, England's greatest ever allrounder, backed up by NZ's man in Vettori. The middle order is just wow, Ponting and Tendulkar in the same team is some immense stuff :eek:.

Shravi's as well, coming along nicely. He's more of a 'blast from the past' in comparison to Dutch though, with Greame and Viv making the middle order. Bowling looks pretty fearsome with Lilee, Murali, and of course Barnes. B-Mac is the only modern player in there (and a pretty good 'un at that).

I'm happy with my team so far. Got a rock solid opening combo in Hobbs and Mankad, who also doubles as a fine allrounder. Lara's in at three to give some real meat to that batting side. De Silva's a good batsman to have at 6 (Probably Sri Lanka's finest middle order bat), and the Pollock/Bond combo is pretty deadly in my humble opinion. :p Pretty balance teams so far, good draft so far gentlemen!


Cheers mate. I saw that my opening pair were a little suspect: brilliant players but are they consistent enough? When you can back them up with my numbers 3 and 4 though, who gives a toss!:p

I would give my mums right arm to see Ponting and Tendulkar play in the same side!
 
Review of teams so far (excluding my own)

Dutchad: Opening combination is on the weaker side. Smith will no doubt go down as a South African great and I think he was a great pick. However, Jayasuriya wasn't all that great a pick. He wasn't very reliable or consistent with the bat and wasn't penetrative enough with the ball. That being said, coming so low down in the round, I suppose you had to go for him as there was very little choice. Ian Botham was a wonderful all rounder and I have no real complaints there. Daniel Vettori was a bit of a bemusing pick for me. His bowling has really gone down as his batting has gotten better. I would have gone for John Reid, Glenn Turner, Martin Donnelly or Jack Cowie. It must be especially painful seeing as you could have gotten Shane Warne in the Australia round, which brings me to my next point. You haven't really concentrated on your bowling attack so far and that could leave you high and dry in the rounds to come, however, when you sacrifice that bowling line up for a middle order with Tendulkar and Ponting, one can't really complain can they?

Zorax: 2nd best all rounder, an excellent keeper, a well respected spinner, one of the best fast bowlers ever, a great left field New Zealand pick and India's best all rounder. A well rounded and well balanced side so far. Finding openers may be a worry though. Also, it looks like you're going with only 3 pure bowlers so I think you're being far to reliant on who other people go for in the hope that they do not steal your batsmen.

KP: Batting is top class although Barry Richards is a little iffy. No doubt he was a world class player but as Ian Chappell said, it's hard to rank him or rate him because he only played 4 test matches. Bit of an unknown quantity. Well respected Indian spinner. George Lohman was a bit of a surprise and probably a mistake. Batting averages hovered in the mid 20s at the time and pitches were absolute minefields so you have to take that bowling average with a bit of salt. Batsmen weren't all that skilled at the time either. Bowling has no real pace at the moment.

hMarka: Dale Steyn was a good pick and will no doubt go down as one of the modern greats and probably all time greats too. Great keeper batsman in Sangakkara. No debates there. Sir Leonard Hutton was a great opener, there's no doubt about that but since you had the first pick you should have gone for Sir Jack Hobbs. Still, Hutton was a fine opener so it wasn't really a backwards step. Weekes was another strong selection. Astle, however, wasn't. Terrible selection if I'm honest. If you were going for a batsman, you should have gone for Turner or Donnelly. Anil Kumble was a fine pick but I think you'll regret that since you had first pick in the Australia round. You could have gone for Rahul Dravid, Vijay Merchant or Vijay Hazare instead.

Dare: Very strong bowling line up. Lack of spinner is a bit of a worry as I'm sure they are going to disappear fast. Solid pick in Rahul Dravid. Would have loved to have him and Sunny but I can't have my way with everything now can I. Jayawardene is a bit of a FTB and doesn't really perform all that well outside the subcontinent but the choice is understandable as you didn't have many other alternatives.

Cricketman: Shaun Pollock was a fine bowler. Great control and one of my favorite cricketers. However, you had the chance to go for Allan Donald and I think you missed a trick by not doing so. Aravinda De Silva was no doubt a fine Sri Lankan batsman however his figures don't stack up when it comes to looking at him on a world stage. He never really made the most of his talent. I suppose you could argue that this is because he came up against much better bowling attacks than Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Dilshan and Samaraweera did. I understand the pick given that there were not many alternative choices as was the case with everyone after Murali and Sanga were gone. Greatest opener of all time. No debate there. Solid number 3 pick. Prolific run scorer and proven performer, has all the stats in the world to back it up. Bond was a great fast bowler and I think he would have gone on to be an all time great like Hadlee if he was injury free however, we'll never know will we. Like with Barry Richards, Bond is a bit of an unknown quantity in the test arena. He never played enough tests in a row and could hardly last an entire series. Vinoo Mankad was a great all rounder though I'm not sure he belongs in an all time XI. I would have gone for Merchant or Hazare. You could have moved Lara down to 5 and played Dravid at 3, but I understand that Lara hasn't played many innings at 5. Well balanced side so far though. Not leaning towards batting or bowling.

There you go dutchad. Hope you actually read it :p. Took me a while. Apologies for any spelling errors or striking mistakes in grammar or vocabulary. I didn't double check the post.
 
Review of teams so far (excluding my own)

hMarka: Dale Steyn was a good pick and will no doubt go down as one of the modern greats and probably all time greats too. Great keeper batsman in Sangakkara. No debates there. Sir Leonard Hutton was a great opener, there's no doubt about that but since you had the first pick you should have gone for Sir Jack Hobbs. Still, Hutton was a fine opener so it wasn't really a backwards step. Weekes was another strong selection. Astle, however, wasn't. Terrible selection if I'm honest. If you were going for a batsman, you should have gone for Turner or Donnelly. Anil Kumble was a fine pick but I think you'll regret that since you had first pick in the Australia round. You could have gone for Rahul Dravid, Vijay Merchant or Vijay Hazare instead.


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Yea, let me explain myself :laugh

Astle: I could not find any decent NZ cricketers, they all barely average in the mid 40s and I picked him since his stats were fairly decent for an all round guy and of course his 222 which I personally remember. I agree though, horrible pick and it exposes my cricket noobness

Kumble: :facepalm, I had no idea I had the first pick in the Aus round and i figured Warnie would be the 1st to go. So stupidity on my part in not checking the 1st post, i could really have used Dravid.

Steyn: I am glad this pick is not being regarded as a "modern era current player not worth on the list"

His stats are already better than Donald and he is only 26!
 

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