Richie Benaud XI Draft
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My allrounders:
Mike Proctor and Kapil Dev
Big hitting, fast bowling match winners of the highest quality. Both of them were renowned for similar attributes - hostile swing bowling at pace, aggressive big hitting batting, lively outfielding, and good leadership. Two cricketers who made cricket look ridiculously easy, and were genuine match winners with both bat and ball. Proctor was the more orthodox batsman, capable of batting in the top order, while Dev was probably the more refined and polished quick, not only effective in helpful conditions but also able to get wickets on Indian dustbowls and flat decks.
Zorax's XI
1. ------
2. ------
3. ------
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Steve Waugh (*)
6. Mike Proctor
7. ------
8. Kapil Dev
9. ------
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath
Mike Proctor and Kapil Dev
Big hitting, fast bowling match winners of the highest quality. Both of them were renowned for similar attributes - hostile swing bowling at pace, aggressive big hitting batting, lively outfielding, and good leadership. Two cricketers who made cricket look ridiculously easy, and were genuine match winners with both bat and ball. Proctor was the more orthodox batsman, capable of batting in the top order, while Dev was probably the more refined and polished quick, not only effective in helpful conditions but also able to get wickets on Indian dustbowls and flat decks.
Zorax's XI
1. ------
2. ------
3. ------
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Steve Waugh (*)
6. Mike Proctor
7. ------
8. Kapil Dev
9. ------
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath
Damn.If needed to replace Procter, I'm torn between two left handed spin bowling allrounders.
Meh, Vinoo Mankad it is. An accurate and guileful spinner, talented fieldsman, and gifted batsman who even managed to open the batting for India quite successfully.
Makes it 3 Indians in my lineup so far.
Zorax's XI
1. ------
2. ------
3. ------
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Steve Waugh (*)
6. Vinoo Mankad
7. ------
8. Kapil Dev
9. ------
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath
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cricket_icon
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sorry guys. how do I pick my team and so forth?? I am a little confused.
shravi
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Let's just wait for cricket icon to catch up as he might be a little overwhelmed with everyone having 6 picks and himself having none. I think it's his first draft so he's not exactly sure how it works.
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Ok, so go to the first post. Read the rules (pretty short) so you don't pick someone that can't be. As you can see, you missed your pick in the first round. So pick your two fast bowlers from whoever is left. A bowler will be considered an all rounder if his batting average of above 25 or is just widely considered an all rounder. A batsman will be considered an all rounder if he has a bowling average under 35 or is just widely considered an all rounder. In these cases, you will not be able to choose the first example as a bowler only, or the second example as a batsman only.
Ok so here's what you have to do in order.
1) pick to pacers from whoever is left.
2) Zorax has picked his two all rounders so that means it's your turn in the all rounder draft. Pick two who still haven't been picked.
3) You are first in the WK + Spinner round. So pick one WK and one spinner.
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Woah! Wait up. You can't pick your middle order yet so take out Sachin and Viv. Sachin is taken anyway. Also, look at the list of players who have already been picked. You can't have them.
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Ok, so go to the first post. Read the rules (pretty short) so you don't pick someone that can't be. As you can see, you missed your pick in the first round. So pick your two fast bowlers from whoever is left. A bowler will be considered an all rounder if his batting average of above 25 or is just widely considered an all rounder. A batsman will be considered an all rounder if he has a bowling average under 35 or is just widely considered an all rounder. In these cases, you will not be able to choose the first example as a bowler only, or the second example as a batsman only.
Ok so here's what you have to do in order.
1) pick to pacers from whoever is left.
2) Zorax has picked his two all rounders so that means it's your turn in the all rounder draft. Pick two who still haven't been picked.
3) You are first in the WK + Spinner round. So pick one WK and one spinner.
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Woah! Wait up. You can't pick your middle order yet so take out Sachin and Viv. Sachin is taken anyway. Also, look at the list of players who have already been picked. You can't have them.
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cricket_icon
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Yeah just realised what I did was wrong. I'll post mine up in a minute or so. Thanks for the help mate.
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Ok here's mine:
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6. Adam Gilchrist wk
7. Kapil Dev
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Wasim Akram
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Malcolm Marshal
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So i got to wait for Sifter before I can pick my other two right?
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Ok here's mine:
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6. Adam Gilchrist wk
7. Kapil Dev
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Wasim Akram
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Malcolm Marshal
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So i got to wait for Sifter before I can pick my other two right?
shravi
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Same mistake again. You can't have those two as User has both (
). Since this a draft, you cannot have anyone you want. You have to choose who others do not. Also, FINALLY somebody picks Shaun Pollock, thank you! I was wondering why everyone forgot about him. Great, honest player. One of my favorites growing up, for sure.
I thought somebody would pick Aubrey Faulkner as well.
Also, cricket icon, give us a little write up on the players you choose like the others have done. Otherwise it's too boring and you don't learn anything. They're just names on a list if you do that.
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shravi
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User, what a team! Lara, Wasim, Botham and Keith Miller all in one team. I think that's too much talent for one team. You said I am running away with this and naturally I am biased and will say my team is better but I'd sure as hell want to watch your team over my Hobbs and Kallis.
Gaurav_7
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I'm loving my team too, thanks man. Openers and WK + Spinner rounds are vital though. I'm second last and last in those two respectively. I'll have to find my way through it or see if I get lucky. Anyways, mine is better than yours. 
Also, I'll try to do the write ups tomorrow, don't have the heart to do it now.
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Kapil Dev is also picked by Zorax.
Also, I'll try to do the write ups tomorrow, don't have the heart to do it now.----------
Kapil Dev is also picked by Zorax.
cricket_icon
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Ohh I picked Akram and Marshall cos I thought I wasn't allowed to pick any new fast bowlers. In that case here are my new choices, with reasons this time:
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6. Adam Gilchrist wk: An absolutely destructive batsmen, one of the best in any forms of the game. His got more Test AND ODI centuries than any other wicket keeper/batsman in history. Lets not forget he also leads the table for number of dismissals. Perfect in this position!
7. Tony Grieg: Perhaps he will always be remembered for his comments about making the West Indians grovel or his backing of the then revolutionary World Series cricket, but his achievements as a cricketer for England can never and should never be overlooked. Well over 3000 runs at an average of 40 and 141 Test wickets is no mean feat. Added to that his bowling variety, able to bowl spin and some, wicket to wicket medium pacers, at his peak he could have walked in almost any Test sides at the time. I haven't even mentioned the captaincy yet.
8. Shaun Pollock: Kallis will always be remembered as South Africa's greatest allrounder and possibly greatest ever cricketer, but while he was still plying his trade and trying to be accepted by fans and writers alike, Pollock, from a lineage of great cricketers, was already an all time great. He lost a lot of pace as his career reached it's end but he never lost his accuracy, for ever pegging away at off stump. His batting could be breath taking at times, as his scintillating 111 against Sri Lanka proved.
9. Muttiah Muralitharan: The greatest spinner of all time. Sorry Shane Warne. The numbers are known by any cricket fan, 800 Test wickets, over 500 ODI wickets all at an average ans SR which should only belong to a fast bowler. What is even more remarkable is that for almost his entire career, he carried an entire bowling attack, and at times an entire team on his shoulders, leading them to almost single handed victories. Yes there was Vaas but he was no McGrath, Lee, Gillespie or Stuart Clark. When Murali was at his peak he had very little to rely on, except for the ever dependable hands of Jayawardene.
10. Waqar Younis: One of the most devastating and fastest bowlers to ever live. At his peak in the early to mid nineties he was indeed the fastest of them all. He was so devastating, that still to this day his has the best SR of any bowler with more than 200 Test wickets...yes that includes Akram, McGrath, Walsh, Marshal, Lillee and co. He could swing both the new and the old ball, but it was when the ball was reverse swinging that he was at hi most lethal, just ask the English, Indians and a fair few Australians.
11. Courtney Walsh: A member of that golden 90s generation of great fast bowlers. Over 500 Test wickets, he formed a formidable partnership with Ambrose on the other end. Although his natural length was short, he could mix it up, pepper batsmen with "chin music" and then catch them off guard with fuller deliveries. Not the most well rounded bowler there's been but he knew what he had in him and he made it work.
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3.
4.
5.
6. Adam Gilchrist wk: An absolutely destructive batsmen, one of the best in any forms of the game. His got more Test AND ODI centuries than any other wicket keeper/batsman in history. Lets not forget he also leads the table for number of dismissals. Perfect in this position!
7. Tony Grieg: Perhaps he will always be remembered for his comments about making the West Indians grovel or his backing of the then revolutionary World Series cricket, but his achievements as a cricketer for England can never and should never be overlooked. Well over 3000 runs at an average of 40 and 141 Test wickets is no mean feat. Added to that his bowling variety, able to bowl spin and some, wicket to wicket medium pacers, at his peak he could have walked in almost any Test sides at the time. I haven't even mentioned the captaincy yet.
8. Shaun Pollock: Kallis will always be remembered as South Africa's greatest allrounder and possibly greatest ever cricketer, but while he was still plying his trade and trying to be accepted by fans and writers alike, Pollock, from a lineage of great cricketers, was already an all time great. He lost a lot of pace as his career reached it's end but he never lost his accuracy, for ever pegging away at off stump. His batting could be breath taking at times, as his scintillating 111 against Sri Lanka proved.
9. Muttiah Muralitharan: The greatest spinner of all time. Sorry Shane Warne. The numbers are known by any cricket fan, 800 Test wickets, over 500 ODI wickets all at an average ans SR which should only belong to a fast bowler. What is even more remarkable is that for almost his entire career, he carried an entire bowling attack, and at times an entire team on his shoulders, leading them to almost single handed victories. Yes there was Vaas but he was no McGrath, Lee, Gillespie or Stuart Clark. When Murali was at his peak he had very little to rely on, except for the ever dependable hands of Jayawardene.
10. Waqar Younis: One of the most devastating and fastest bowlers to ever live. At his peak in the early to mid nineties he was indeed the fastest of them all. He was so devastating, that still to this day his has the best SR of any bowler with more than 200 Test wickets...yes that includes Akram, McGrath, Walsh, Marshal, Lillee and co. He could swing both the new and the old ball, but it was when the ball was reverse swinging that he was at hi most lethal, just ask the English, Indians and a fair few Australians.
11. Courtney Walsh: A member of that golden 90s generation of great fast bowlers. Over 500 Test wickets, he formed a formidable partnership with Ambrose on the other end. Although his natural length was short, he could mix it up, pepper batsmen with "chin music" and then catch them off guard with fuller deliveries. Not the most well rounded bowler there's been but he knew what he had in him and he made it work.
OK so I've got my openers ready to rock. Still working on my #3 and #4, but I definitely know who my #5 is, so I'll add him. Then I'll pick those other 2 when I get back from work.
Sir Leonard Hutton
Tests: 79
Runs: 6971
Avg: 56.67
HS: 364 v Aus, The Oval, 1938
100s: 19
A run machine who started his career before WW2 when he broke Bradman's record for the highest score in Tests. Of course his career had to be put on hold for 6 or 7 years as WW2 went on - think how many runs and 100s he might have ended up with... Some interesting trivia: Hutton suffered an injury while commando training in that time which eventually led to one of his arms being shorter than the other.
But it didn't seem to hinder him too much as he became renowned as the world's #1 batsman (once Sir Don retired of course...). Hutton had a great technique, playing the ball as late as he could which meant he played all types of bowling well. The Aussies thought he was susceptible to pace and bouncers, but Hutton's average of 56 against Australia over his career busts that myth. He also handled spin well, averaging almost 80 against the West Indies and their relentless spin duo of Valentine and Ramadhin. It was against the Windies in 1950 that he played one of the great lone hands in history: 202* out of only 344 at The Oval.
Herbert Sutcliffe
Tests: 54
Runs: 4555
Avg: 60.73
HS: 194 v Aus, SCG, 1932/33
100s: 16
The king of concentration who valued his wicket like his life. Sutcliffe owns the record for most balls faced per innings - even greater than Bradman. Paired with Hutton, they become almost the ultimate new ball blunting duo. Check out this stat: Sutcliffe was dismissed for less than 20 only 6 times IN HIS CAREER. That's 75 times he was out, 69 of them for 20 or above. Was famous for his partnership with Jack Hobbs, a partnership where more often than not he outscored the legendary Hobbs. In the 25 Tests they played together, Sutcliffe scored 2630 runs to Hobbs' 2213 (Hobbs of course was on the back end of a long career). Sutcliffe carried on after Hobbs retired even when England kept chopping and changing openers as they struggled to find a replacement for Hobbs. Sutcliffe injured his leg in 1935 and could not get back into the team as England looked for youth, Sir Leonard Hutton being one of those young openers. One reason for that was the new LBW law which meant that a ball pitching outside off could now be given out LBW, previously the ball had to pitch in line with the stumps. Sutcliffe was a great user of his pads to defend, and some thought the law would be too much to adjust to for an old dog.
Sutcliffe opened with Sir Len at Yorkshire in the last few years of his county career, so there will be a good understanding between the two of them. I've read Sutcliffe was pretty quick in the field too, with a good arm. So that will keep with my aim to get have some good fielders in the XI.
Sir Vivian Richards
Tests: 121
Runs: 8540
Avg: 50.23
HS: 291 v Eng, The Oval, 1976
100s: 24
Sir Viv Richards is the exclamation point on my top 5, one of the most brutal batsmen ever. Viv's average is a 'mere' 50, but in this case stats aren't everything because Sir Viv had a swagger and style that indimidated bowlers and set him apart from the other batsmen in his era. Never quite sustained the brilliant start to his career in the late 70s, perhaps being captain affected his batting a bit, but he was always feared because he could take the game away from the opposition with his fast scoring and destructive strokes. Was named as one of Wisden's 5 cricketers of the 20th century - a very exlcusive club. As a bonus to his batting, Viv was a great cat-like fieldsman and could bowl some handy off-spin.
1 Sir Len Hutton
2 Herbert Sutcliffe
3
4
5 Sir Viv Richards
6 Sir Garfield Sobers
7 Imran Khan (*)
8
9
10
11
3 knights and 2 of the 5 players of the 20th century thus far...not bad
Sir Leonard Hutton
Tests: 79
Runs: 6971
Avg: 56.67
HS: 364 v Aus, The Oval, 1938
100s: 19
A run machine who started his career before WW2 when he broke Bradman's record for the highest score in Tests. Of course his career had to be put on hold for 6 or 7 years as WW2 went on - think how many runs and 100s he might have ended up with... Some interesting trivia: Hutton suffered an injury while commando training in that time which eventually led to one of his arms being shorter than the other.
But it didn't seem to hinder him too much as he became renowned as the world's #1 batsman (once Sir Don retired of course...). Hutton had a great technique, playing the ball as late as he could which meant he played all types of bowling well. The Aussies thought he was susceptible to pace and bouncers, but Hutton's average of 56 against Australia over his career busts that myth. He also handled spin well, averaging almost 80 against the West Indies and their relentless spin duo of Valentine and Ramadhin. It was against the Windies in 1950 that he played one of the great lone hands in history: 202* out of only 344 at The Oval.
Herbert Sutcliffe
Tests: 54
Runs: 4555
Avg: 60.73
HS: 194 v Aus, SCG, 1932/33
100s: 16
The king of concentration who valued his wicket like his life. Sutcliffe owns the record for most balls faced per innings - even greater than Bradman. Paired with Hutton, they become almost the ultimate new ball blunting duo. Check out this stat: Sutcliffe was dismissed for less than 20 only 6 times IN HIS CAREER. That's 75 times he was out, 69 of them for 20 or above. Was famous for his partnership with Jack Hobbs, a partnership where more often than not he outscored the legendary Hobbs. In the 25 Tests they played together, Sutcliffe scored 2630 runs to Hobbs' 2213 (Hobbs of course was on the back end of a long career). Sutcliffe carried on after Hobbs retired even when England kept chopping and changing openers as they struggled to find a replacement for Hobbs. Sutcliffe injured his leg in 1935 and could not get back into the team as England looked for youth, Sir Leonard Hutton being one of those young openers. One reason for that was the new LBW law which meant that a ball pitching outside off could now be given out LBW, previously the ball had to pitch in line with the stumps. Sutcliffe was a great user of his pads to defend, and some thought the law would be too much to adjust to for an old dog.
Sutcliffe opened with Sir Len at Yorkshire in the last few years of his county career, so there will be a good understanding between the two of them. I've read Sutcliffe was pretty quick in the field too, with a good arm. So that will keep with my aim to get have some good fielders in the XI.
Sir Vivian Richards
Tests: 121
Runs: 8540
Avg: 50.23
HS: 291 v Eng, The Oval, 1976
100s: 24
Sir Viv Richards is the exclamation point on my top 5, one of the most brutal batsmen ever. Viv's average is a 'mere' 50, but in this case stats aren't everything because Sir Viv had a swagger and style that indimidated bowlers and set him apart from the other batsmen in his era. Never quite sustained the brilliant start to his career in the late 70s, perhaps being captain affected his batting a bit, but he was always feared because he could take the game away from the opposition with his fast scoring and destructive strokes. Was named as one of Wisden's 5 cricketers of the 20th century - a very exlcusive club. As a bonus to his batting, Viv was a great cat-like fieldsman and could bowl some handy off-spin.
1 Sir Len Hutton
2 Herbert Sutcliffe
3
4
5 Sir Viv Richards
6 Sir Garfield Sobers
7 Imran Khan (*)
8
9
10
11
3 knights and 2 of the 5 players of the 20th century thus far...not bad
