PC: T20 Blast Tournament - Series 1 - (Round 2)

[mazd]

I would like to repeat myself here. On paper nothing wrong has been done. Common people.

 

[AngryPixel]

On paper his bid was wrong and against the rules and spirit of the game. Let me give you an example.

Suppose I broke into a bank in the midnight but unfortunately before i could steal anything i get caught. In the court i plead innocent on the grounds that
"I had every intention to steal but I did not. I just broke a few rules by coming late into the bank. It was totally unintentional. "

I wonder what jury would rule on that.

 

[venkniralac]

see Sam let this kp controversy get solved then i will tell my decision of continuing in the league

 

[mazd]

Again not a bank. No Law. Even if he intended it did not happened. Penalize it in next auction when the rule is " One would be penalized if they bid higher even when they know their squad wont be completed". Until then no need for penalty.

 

[AngryPixel]

I'm not so inclined towards having venky penalized as I'm towards Rizzy getting fair treatment. If we are not penalizing venky, why should Rizzy end up paying more because of that. He would have got KP fair and square in previous round.

 

[ChinamanSpin]

I can understand both points, but venkniralac could have just been playing tactics. By deciding to raise the bid for KP he forced others into higher bids, knowing (or maybe not) that if it didn't come off he was stuffed. I don't think it was a good or fair thing to do, but I'd rather we just drew a line under this and moved on. It wasn't technically against the rules so I don't think he should be punished, meaning that we can leave this bizarre affair behind, and SamP can now decide if RIZZY gets KP or not.

If venkniralac was the highest bidder there would be problems, but as it is I think we should move on.

 

[mazd]

Finally a sensible post. Which is my point it was done as a bluff. Probability of that happening was not in anyone's hand.
Let this end here.

 

[JasXI]

Frankly I have nothing against rizzyx and neither do we have the capacity to bid for kp. But personally, nothing illegal has been done and hence I don't think rizzyx should get kp cheaper than his round 5 bid.

Again to reiterate, I have nothing against you rizzyx

 

[AngryPixel]

Finally a sensible post. Which is my point it was done as a bluff. Probability of that happening was not in anyone's hand.
Let this end here.

Lets just not give venky credit for something so complex which he's clearly not capable of.
This is not a post of a man playing a bluff,

i want KP in my team you ban him for a no of matches and allow me to use 5 overseas the 5th one in my lineup can be decided by Sam

 

[mazd]

^ what jas said. No hard feeling towards Rizzy

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He took a chance. I am not supporting anyone not do I have a grudge against any manager or deputy manager. All I am saying if he would have got KP he should have been penalize for being short of players. Now that he does not have KP things should the way they are.

 

[_Sam_]

I feel what's best for the situation of the league is we leave Venk now, but depending on everyones opinion we allow Rizzy Pietersen at his original $195,000? This cancels out any potential wrongs that could be associated with Venk as it has then not caused any difference to the auction, however I want peoples opinion on this before going ahead with it.

I think next round the rule that you cannot bid with the intention of losing your budget before 15 players (and I'll judge that if everyone's ok with that ).

If a few (preferably managers only to be honest) could give their views on the above then I will get started on posting the spreadsheet result and I think I'll send people PM's telling people how many of there bids were highest (but not who) otherwise people could be here with 14 players for a long time!

 

[saferider4969]

Agree to all of that.

All I am saying is that he hasn't won the player. Even if done intentionally, his strategy was to increase KP's price (which has happened).

Now he says it was unintentional and a mistake. I Agree to him, others don't. All I am saying is that as of now he is not over-budget and can complete his squad easily. So penalty for what?

+1 man, don't these guys remember even in real life IPL teams do that. Look at kolkata what they did for yuvraj's auction.

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Regarding a penalty, I am not in a position to decide this so I am not going to comment on that.

What I will say is placing a bid for an amount which you know will mean you will have insufficient funds to complete your squad is wrong to say the very least and should not be allowed in my opinion. There for his bid of 210,000 when he had a budget of 225,000 should not have been allowed.

His strategy was clearly to win KP.

It could have easily been the case that i would not have bid in excess of 210,000 and Venk would have won KP and not had the 15th player.

Any how lets just wait until the auction ends.

A tense build up to the competition.

Yeah man, if he had won KP he would have got him and just paid penalty for not having 15 men in his sqaud.

 

[venkniralac]

ok let me be frank now and i appologize if you guys feel that mistake is on my side and I hereby withdraw my 210000 bid on Kevin pieterson this is final and you can give to the second highest bidder for the bid he has made and not above 210000

 

[mazd]

I feel what's best for the situation of the league is we leave Venk now, but depending on everyones opinion we allow Rizzy Pietersen at his original $195,000? This cancels out any potential wrongs that could be associated with Venk as it has then not caused any difference to the auction, however I want peoples opinion on this before going ahead with it.

I think next round the rule that you cannot bid with the intention of losing your budget before 15 players (and I'll judge that if everyone's ok with that ).

If a few (preferably managers only to be honest) could give their views on the above then I will get started on posting the spreadsheet result and I think I'll send people PM's telling people how many of there bids were highest (but not who) otherwise people could be here with 14 players for a long time!

I say no changes to be made in the bids. Should be how it is.

 

[cricket_online]

Frankly I have nothing against rizzyx and neither do we have the capacity to bid for kp. But personally, nothing illegal has been done and hence I don't think rizzyx should get kp cheaper than his round 5 bid.

Again to reiterate, I have nothing against you rizzyx

^ what jas said. No hard feeling towards Rizzy

In a way you are stuffing RIZZY while stating "nothing against Rizzy"