Test Cricket tweak

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 16 2003, 09:10 AM
Amber, don't worry, if Ravi says he'll send you the files then that's what he'll do. He won't forget (unless they get left in the 'Outbox', eh Ravi :throw: ).

You got that right there Jonah, certainly it isnt in my outbox right now. It is just going your way, have a look at the cursor size I mentioned above for the bowling set up. It probably might not look neat to start with but I suppose you will appreciate the difficulty in getting the line right. Also there has been some changes in the way the ball will behave on the pitch, if for some reason you do not like it replace the ball,fast,legspin, offspin and swing from my previous versions. If it isnt a pain to post here what you feel about the cursor, I can package the same for Amber to have a go at.

When batting, too many strokes might produce quite a few edges. Make sure you play in and then play your shots, particularly against the new ball. I have tried to tweak the over the sq leg shot and the hook shot, if you reckon no further tweaking is needed on it please remind me the same.

Amber will send you the other set of files once Jonah agrees about the cursor, sorry to keep you waiting.

 

[amber22]

Amber will send you the other set of files once Jonah agrees about the cursor, sorry to keep you waiting.

It's Ok Ravi , I am sure Jonah will post his reply soon

 

[jonah]

Quick 10 over update (coz I know you're getting desperate Amber )...
using the new County Patch Yorkshire (cpu) v Surrey (me), damp wicket, overcast.
Surrey won toss, elected to bowl.
Careful start by the cpu (Yorks), taking lots of singles, trying occasionaly to go over the infield (especially the lofted on drive), although a couple of mistimed shots could've fallen to a fielder. The slow outfield and good field placement has meant no boundaries as yet, with Surrey's opening bowlers going past the outside edge 2-3 times (good movement off the seam). Surrey struck in the 10th over, Wood lbw, playing across the line (don't worry Ravi, this was the first time the cpu missed this shot!) See screenshot.
10 overs Yorks 40/1.

Great stuff Ravi; good controlled cpu play, a couple of edges falling short, good bounce, play and misses, the occasional aggressive stroke. Can't wait to see how Yorks progress .

re the cursor; it's still relatively easy to place the ball, as it pitches in the front/centre of the large grey cursor each time (i.e. doesn't move around the cursor, like it does if the bowler has a high average). Not sure how you'd rectify this? We don't want bowling too hard though! ...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 16 2003, 11:09 AM
Quick 10 over update (coz I know you're getting desperate Amber )...
using the new County Patch Yorkshire (cpu) v Surrey (me), damp wicket, overcast.
Surrey won toss, elected to bowl.
Careful start by the cpu (Yorks), taking lots of singles, trying occasionaly to go over the infield (especially the lofted on drive), although a couple of mistimed shots could've fallen to a fielder. The slow outfield and good field placement has meant no boundaries as yet, with Surrey's opening bowlers going past the outside edge 2-3 times (good movement off the seam). Surrey struck in the 10th over, Wood lbw, playing across the line (don't worry Ravi, this was the first time the cpu missed this shot!) See screenshot.
10 overs Yorks 40/1.

Great stuff Ravi; good controlled cpu play, a couple of edges falling short, good bounce, play and misses, the occasional aggressive stroke. Can't wait to see how Yorks progress .

re the cursor; it's still relatively easy to place the ball, as it pitches in the front/centre of the large grey cursor each time (i.e. doesn't move around the cursor, like it does if the bowler has a high average). Not sure how you'd rectify this? We don't want bowling too hard though! ...

Brilliant stuff, Jonah couldnt have been much quicker the feedback. There you go Amber its all clear from Jonah, you should have the files in about 15-20 minutes. Also the bat I am using isnt a 3d one, its just one of the bats I downloaded of one of the site(probably this one). If you wish I could send this to you.

 

[amber22]

I think Jonah has the WCEXP from Vineet as I can see the umpire.Actually what I have the problem is I cant download the Wc exp of 36 MB.I am intrested in the things like the umpire in the screenshot as well as the 3d bat.So jonah can you send me the umpire files and if you have then the 3d bat

 

[amber22]

And Ravi I like your bat also so please send me that also

 

[jonah]

I don't have the WCexp amber. The umpire was made by Paul Smith ages ago (before WCEXP was released), and I can't remember which files he swapped/played around with. I'll have a look if I get time and send them on .
I haven't got the 3D bat either...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 16 2003, 11:44 AM
I don't have the WCexp amber. The umpire was made by Paul Smith ages ago (before WCEXP was released), and I can't remember which files he swapped/played around with. I'll have a look if I get time and send them on .
I haven't got the 3D bat either...

Jonah, there was something I forgot to remind you. The cover.saf is currently set to Aggressive, you will need to set this to moderate if you are looking forward to bowling less yorkers. CPU tries to whack few of those bowled in the blockhole over the cover, get it to play a defensive shot or a straight drive by making the change mentioned above. Also to avoid CPU sweeping any ball in the yorker and attempt it to play a straight drive or defend it, change the bowler type in swpaddle.saf to bowler types 6. It will then only sweep the spinners. If you wish I can send those in a new file, let me know.

 

[crick4life]

Guys, I am sending you all the new patch with the changes as mentioned above. Please let me know if the batting seems a bit tough or if bowling sucks. Let me confess, these files are hardly been tested. The ones sent to Jonah was atleast run for all the bowlers to test the ball properties and the outfield pace et al. This new patch has not been tested and it might play a bit odd or it might just be sweet as, I am not sure. Going by what we have decided before, Jonah is playing on wet, Shailesh on Dry, Amber on normal and I will test these on a green top. Lets see how it goes.

Jonah, the only changes done to the patch have been the shot properties for wet patch so you can simply replace the old one with this one.

doesn't move around the cursor, like it does if the bowler has a high average

Couldnt quite grasp what you meant by that Jonah.

 

[jonah]

Yes, I didn't make myself very clear Ravi.
What I mean is, the higher the bowler's average, the larger the cursor. So a bowler with an average of 40 has a large cursor, a bowler with a 15 average has a small cursor.
Now, say I was using the bowler with the 40 average. I can place the cursor on the wicket, press whichever button to bowl, and as the cursor shrinks, the actual point at wher the ball will pitch could be anywhere in side that original large cursor. With the latest patch you've made, the pitching point always seems to be at the top/middle of the extra large grey cursor .
If the patch could be made to make the ball pitch anywhere inside that grey cursor, then that would make bowling very hard :blink: . Probably too much so.
I suppose every bowlers average could be increased, but then cpu bowlers bowl more wides/wayward deliveries.
I hope that's a little easier to understand!

 

[sonic]

for some reason i've always found bowlers with higher averages (bigger cursors) harder to face cos you literally are playing into the hands of the gods cos the ball could pitch anywhere. I'm surprised no one's thought of rectifying this <_<

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 16 2003, 12:50 PM
Yes, I didn't make myself very clear Ravi.
What I mean is, the higher the bowler's average, the larger the cursor. So a bowler with an average of 40 has a large cursor, a bowler with a 15 average has a small cursor.
Now, say I was using the bowler with the 40 average. I can place the cursor on the wicket, press whichever button to bowl, and as the cursor shrinks, the actual point at wher the ball will pitch could be anywhere in side that original large cursor. With the latest patch you've made, the pitching point always seems to be at the top/middle of the extra large grey cursor .
If the patch could be made to make the ball pitch anywhere inside that grey cursor, then that would make bowling very hard :blink: . Probably too much so.
I suppose every bowlers average could be increased, but then cpu bowlers bowl more wides/wayward deliveries.
I hope that's a little easier to understand!

Indeed, I got ya. I agree with you probably we can switch it back to what it was but still give it a go. The files are on its way, it should be there with you anytime now. Right now, CPU bowls quite a few good balls if we are to increase the average it will certainly result in heaps of wides as you mentioned above. We can probably try and figure out if there are any avenues to get around this in the coming days.

 

[jonah]

Having said what I did earlier, I'm now using a bowler with an average of 36 and with the cursor now huge, it IS harder to place the ball exactly where you want. I'll see how I get on.

 

[sonic]

surely can't be worse than the default EA cursor which seemed to have red bull wings :

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by sonic@Jun 16 2003, 12:53 PM
for some reason i've always found bowlers with higher averages (bigger cursors) harder to face cos you literally are playing into the hands of the gods cos the ball could pitch anywhere. I'm surprised no one's thought of rectifying this <_<

You are right on the money there Sonic, I thought it was only me who had difficulty against the lesser bowlers.

Jonah, the green top settings arent bad at all. I have struggled to 35/2 off 10 overs with no boundries <_< . There have been upteem number of edges but have been luck it has fallen short or in no mans land. I pulled a short ball in the 4th over for a six after getting impatient not been able to find the gaps and got a touch excited. Then I attempted to play the next short ball over the point and presented a dolly to the point fielder . From then on I have run very will and with the help of lots of singles crawled on to 35. Inbetween lost a batsman to run out :rant: as well. Looks good for now the batting setting for Green top. I am waiting for a spinner to come on as I know I could get more runs off the spinners .

Now I have struggled to 70/4 off 25 overs, scored 2 boundries since the last update. I kept my patience and running the singles hard but at times I have been a little dumb in my shot selection, thanks to the luring field set we got. The short fine leg pushed to deep fine leg, sq leg (no midwicket), a widish long on and a long off. The ball pitched on the leg, was probably seaming away and I played an ondrive and presented a catch to gully. Pretty much the same field set but just the sq leg was moved to deep sq leg and long on brought up. I tried a flick to a ball seaming away pitching on the leg hit the pads and I was given out (the bloody EA Umpire). No spinners in sight yet, probably there are none. There have been 1 fast bowler, 2 Fast medium and a swing bolwer till now. I am looking forward to a score anywhere between 180-210 if I bat out the full overs. Hopefully I will bowl bloody well and pull off a win.