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West Indies Tour of England - May to June 2012
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And they turned the floodlights off! No wonder test-cricket becomes unpopular. They need to figure a way around this kind of situation to make it worthwhile turning up....they could add bonus points for the test championship or something. Poor buggers who made the effort to go and watch some cricket...
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Why can't we have the floodlights, Especially in a flood-hit Birmingham. We've lost two days, let's keep them on and have transparency on the field with the batsmen and bowlers being included in chats with the umpires regarding the issue.
They need to work out this night/evening test stuff. If we can get something in place we could play till 8/9 tonight with flood lights and make some overs back. As you say, poor people who've payed ?40 for a ticket today.
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The daft thing being that both Bell and Pietersen were seeing the ball like a beach-ball for that session after the first "bad" light break. It really doesn't make any sense at all and once again makes cricket look exceedingly daft. If I see in what kind of conditions all other outdoor sports are played in, it makes us cricketers look like complete knob-ends....
Gutted for Best falling 5 short and for both of them falling 9 short of the best ever stand, I believe. I only saw the start of Best's innings, but fair play to the bloke, seems to have been a great innings. Just a shame we won't get a proper result for this match really.
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He played some proper shots today, well worth catching up with.
Dutchad, it's true. In a sport which in many countries has a tiny if not none existent adoption rate it's horrendous. I've been asked many times why Cricker is so good and it's difficult to answer. Even more difficult when people pick out things like going off in bad light.
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Kp gone. I imagine our friend Johnny will be seeing quite a few short balls. Lets see if Mr Gooch has managed to teach him a few things!
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Does my head in this, going off for bad light when they have floodlights switched on. Suggests to me that the so called floodlights are not fit for purpose.
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the bad light thing was ridiculous, you lose 2 days to rain and you still have batsmen wanting to sit in the dressing room because it's a bit dim.
makes the whole test a bit of a farce, what other sport would you get the players deliberately making it so the game couldn't reach a conclusive result?
makes the whole test a bit of a farce, what other sport would you get the players deliberately making it so the game couldn't reach a conclusive result?
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How do they play day/night games at Edgbaston then if that were the case?
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Its the issue of when the floodlights take hold over natural light. Now after two days of rain, I'd like to see the umpires allow for a bit of unnatural light whilst playing. As I was listening to commentary they hit the nail on the head, who gives a buggary about the statistics and numbers of bad light, the main question should be, "is it too dangerous to be playing cricket?"
I think we'd see a bit more play if that was the only thing asked.
It's the ball, not the floodlights. Seeing a red ball in floodlights is more difficult, but I don't think so much for the batsmen (who have the sightscreen to aid), but for the fielders. So usually the argument is 'oh just bowl spin' but you need to solve the problem of fielders losing the red ball in lesser light.
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So how do WI win here? Given a full day's play (98 overs) we might we see 300-350 runs in play. That means WI may have to come back and have a quick top up.
So (at MOST) bowl England out in 20-25 more overs for less than 300, come in and smack a quick 75 in 15 overs, that would set about 200-225 in 55-60 overs for England to win.
Unfortunately not, I think sticking him down in the lowest batting slot is not going to help him and frankly if he's going to struggle against windies then he may not get many more chances. I think Bell made his debut against windies, scored 70 in the last Test of a series.
Well that was a surprise to say the least, or maybe not as England have had spells of not knowing how to get the tail out and it costing them good positions before. To then fall to 49/3 really flips around what I said about windies struggling to win it, although I think this just means England will scrape to a draw. Finn as nightwatchman is a BIG
, to protect who exactly? Prior and Bresnan? P-l-e-a-s-e, do me a favour, neither of them is such big wickets and they'll be in first thing this morning so all that this has done is meant Finn has done THEIR job.And I think this Test is exposing Strauss as a captain more and more, the slips issue where there is one dropping them, then deciding against having third slips etc, then not being able to take out a number 11 without him making Best part of a century, and of course his tendancy to give Trott overs when Trott is barely a threat. All he does in bowling "tidy" overs for 21 runs is do someone else's job less effectively and give the opposition 21 runs. If he needs to get through say 10 overs before the new ball then put on Swann from one end and the bowler who WON'T be taking the new ball from the other.
Like Yawn, his reputation for captaincy is based on individuals doing their job, series results and the odd thing they try that pays off even when a lot of things they try don't. The only two series of note Yawn won were down to great efforts from Flintoff and Jones with support, hardly Yawn's doing. His decision to enforce the follow-on in the Ashes nearly cost us the game and did cost us Jones permanently.
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