West Indies tour of New Zealand

[nikhil_99]

Gayle has bowled well,he got 2 wickets so far,he is a part time bowler ,but he gets wickets when his team needs wickets,for NZ Flynn is batting very well from start,for NZ he must stay there till end of Day1,he is looking good,there are still few more overs left in this session,if NZ dont loose another wicket and get a score of 170/180,they will be still in good position

 

[nz0003]

new zealand on top atm
but a couple of quick wickets and the game changes alot
cmon flynn big chance for a big century

nz0003 added 32 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

BIG CALL
its out
but i feel sorry for flynn
he deserved a ton
didnt look like getting out till then

 

[angryangy]

It's a feast, there's nothing in the pitch except that it might be on the slow side. NZ are further aided by Gayle being the most dangerous bowler on offer, somehow beating McIntosh and Taylor in the flight (it's not like he's beating them with turn) and coaxing hapless slogs. I'm surprised Sulieman Benn was left as 12th, though I'm also somewhat surprised that Nikita Miller isn't yet considered an option for Tests.

However, the real battle is how the two batting lineups stack side by side; without Bravo, the West Indies might not be able to stand head and shoulders above a developing NZ. If the Windies can't spark a collapse, it might be tough going for them to replicate efforts, because they've been known to collapse themselves. NZ don't possess an all-star bowling lineup, but they probably outclass each member of the opposition attack, so unless the Windies can bat better, NZ will come out on top. I'm sure there are runs out there for the three good batsmen, but they'll also need everyone else to chip in.

 

[Dare]

any sort of WI score under 300 when they come in to bat will be a huge disappointment.

Gayle should give Sarwan a few overs. He is a good part timer.

 

[nz0003]

ryder is middling everything
and i mean everything
big score up for grabs
probs let us down like everyother player

 

[irottev]

Franklin would be WAY better than Elliott. Though your tail batting order irottev is a bit strange, why put O'Brien ahead of Gillespie? And if Patel came in, he wouldn't be at 11, he can kinda bat...

Not much difference between Gillespie and O'Brien, I didn't think much of it. I'd have Gillespie at 10 even if it means he has an extra wee while to get ready to bowl.

Ryder looks excellent. I feel sorry for Flynn. Any other day he woulda got a hundred, except today was the first day the NZ side's played with referrals. Gutted, and even then it was kinda 50/50, the ball only half hit him in line. Was a fair decision though.

Ian Smith I think made a good point. Daniel Vettori will love these referrals. Time after time he gets denied LBWs which qualify but with the batsman getting forward, he's one hell of a bowler allready but watch him start to become a real destroyer. He's going to get a 8 wicket bag+ this game, mark my words.

Our batting has been much improved, however i'm pretty disappointed Taylor and McIntosh threw their wickets away. Horrible shots, but we're getting used to them. How's technique is just currently horrible.

Ryder looks fantastic, the best so far. He'll score his maiden hundred tomorrow at this rate with ease.

The WI bowling looks under-done and unimpressive. The first spell was decent but too inaccurate and the later spells they were down 10km in pace.

This pitch has no demons but if slow for sure. WI will have more trouble batting on it.

 

[nz0003]

close day
maybe just in favour of nz
because of the batting to come
ryder and mccullum could build a big patnership
and if one or both get out then nz still have franklin, vettori, mills
who have all made 100s if not 200s in first class cricket

 

[Crew of Black]

I don't want the new referral system, it just doesn't offer enough positives in my opinion to be useful in my opinion. It's just gonna end up like the TVO in Rugby, overused and time wasting, this is especially compounded by the problems with over rates for most countries. They should drop it after this test, it's nearly as stupid as the super subs trial in my opinion.

On a related note though it was a great knock by Flynn, hopefully this is the start of great things to come for him in become a world class batsman that we need. Ryder was also brilliant today, hopefully a hundred comes his way tomorrow. Tim McIntosh got himself set but didn't look comfortable, I guess it's nice to see an opener average over 30, even if it's only for 1 innings.

One of Ryder, McCullum, Franklin or Vettori need to make a big hundred tomorrow.

How better score a huge hundred in his next match or else Guptill, Ingram or Watling are going to be fighting it out for his spot against India.

 

[age of the fall]

I don't want the new referral system, it just doesn't offer enough positives in my opinion to be useful in my opinion. It's just gonna end up like the TVO in Rugby, overused and time wasting, this is especially compounded by the problems with over rates for most countries. They should drop it after this test, it's nearly as stupid as the super subs trial in my opinion.

On a related note though it was a great knock by Flynn, hopefully this is the start of great things to come for him in become a world class batsman that we need. Ryder was also brilliant today, hopefully a hundred comes his way tomorrow. Tim McIntosh got himself set but didn't look comfortable, I guess it's nice to see an opener average over 30, even if it's only for 1 innings.

One of Ryder, McCullum, Franklin or Vettori need to make a big hundred tomorrow.

How better score a huge hundred in his next match or else Guptill, Ingram or Watling are going to be fighting it out for his spot against India.

TBH I think Bell should be ahead of all of those openers

 

[nikhil_99]

Flynn played well,he missed his 100 there,but he perfomed when his team required,they had lost 1st wicket very early,he played really well,Ryder again going well,NZ should not loose wicket here

 

[irottev]

TBH I think Bell should be ahead of all of those openers

I agree. Those other guys haven't proven themselves as domestic cricket yet. No use thrusting them in yet. Bell's been around, scored record number of centuries.

 

[Crew of Black]

Bell's technique is just too flawed at test level and should never be considered for test selection ever again IMO.

I say we give Watling the next shot out of the 3.

 

[Animator!]

Is Bell the lad the played against England in the last series? But seemed to get consistantly done by Jimmy Anderson swinging the ball around? If that's the Bell you're talking about he shouldn't be back playing test cricket till he's sorted his technique out. There are a lot of players that can bully around domestic attacks but not make the step up, and unless he changes his technique he'll forever stay as one of them.

Back to the match, seems a decent start from the Kiwi's. Bearing in mind just how much a pancake the pitch is it requires McCullum, Ryder, Franklin & Vettori to go and get them over 450/500 in my eyes. Try and bat the Windies out of the game.

Ross Taylor really needs to sort himself out big time. He has an absolutely massive amount of potential to be one of the bigger players of the current crop around playing test cricket, and be to New Zealand what Fleming was at times for New Zealand, the player they relied on to score consistantly. McCullum's come of age and will hopefully carry on scoring, Ryder can come into the side and score runs at this level. The moving of Flynn looks to have worked, but in practise looked good in theory anyway based upon batting styles. Just Taylor really needs to look long and hard in the mirror. Such a massive amount of potential that seems to go to waste. He should be putting attacks like the West Indies all around the park in all honesty.

 

[King Pietersen]

Yeh, he's the guy that played against us in Nz. He's got an amazing fc record in recent seasons, but was completely outclassed by England. Looked awful.

 

[irottev]

Amazing how Jamie How is allowed about 5 bad series in a row and Bell gets discarded after only 1 bad series though. He scored a hundred in one of the 6? tests he played this year. An opener hadn't scored a century for us for YEARS! They did the same to Papps. I can't understand it. They have double standards. Some guys get series after series and some guys fail once and get cut straight away. Heck, at least Bell and Papps weren't getting caught in the covers. They were edging genuinely good deliveries.

His technique can't be that horrible if he's scored over 20 first class hundreds. Yet you want to thrust in guys who have 2 or 3 hundreds from domestic cricket who possibly also have poor techniques (when have we ever seen Watling, Ingram or Guptill play?)

If averaging above 80 in the last 2 years of domestic cricket opening the innings with 6? hundreds isn't enough to get selected for our pathetic batting side then I don't know what the selectors want.