End Game White House Mafia - El Loco & The Deadman win

[RUDI]

Setup
Note : President Trump has the power to veto one lynch in the whole game.

Vanilla Townies

You are loyal to President Trump and want the leakers to be fired.

• Chief of Staff John Kelly
• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders - Rudolph
• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon
• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner - Surendar
• Secret Service Agent 1 - asprin

Town Watcher - Pres. Donald Trump

Mafia A Watcher - Secret Agent 2
Win condition:

• You win with Team-B Mafia, when all threats to it are dead or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Mafia A Goon - Robert Mueller

Mafia B Watcher - Vice Pres. Mike Pence
Win condition:

• You win with Team-A Mafia, when all threats to it are dead or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Mafia B Goon - Paul Ryan - Jack Ryder

The first two townies to be killed will not die

Why not just now?

The game hardly started, and speaking of which you give me a scum vibe.

I wonder how it will pan out. Not sure whether 2 bulletproof armour can be protective with mafia having multiple shots? (Correct me if I am wrong)

So mafia teams have to go on about with the same person to get a kill, which means that we will be good shape unless people reveal their role.



yea, it's just that your reply was weird in a way. 'Double lol at your reasoning'


True, it's just the strategy a mafia would use, calling out "why are you playing the game then?" which I observed from CaptainCremer in the previous game who was mafia.

Idk why you want to pressurise when he actually revealed his role.

I'm assuming from what I am seeing behind the kill of JR could probably be because he is a decent player, but he would also be the type of person that probably wouldn't be protected by anyone, so kind of a typical night one target. More or less lucky that that a mafia member getting killed.



Also if you did find high risk of getting caught, why didn't you target him instead?

(Also if you did find) *Rudolph's claim* (high risk of getting caught, why didn't you target him instead?)

I do assume we have one more bulletproof armour before getting the heads off. But I am still not sure if it's just Town Watch who lost it or Townies.

Through the manner you approached his post, it seemed deliberate if you ask me. Not to wipe slate clean, but you could have waited for counter claim.

I don't want to string up bearing in mind how you rendered in the previous game.

Idk whether the lynch will matter now, but I will just vote anyway

Lynch asprin

You really think it was valid to go after, though villain disclosed his role? Could have gone the same with Rudolph, but he chose not to.[DOUBLEPOST=1502859574][/DOUBLEPOST]

Villain unwillingly created? That doesn't make sense. Are you covering asprin by any chance?

True, but you are missing the point of Villain disclosing. He had to because there is not other way to back his defense, when people are going against.



What are you implying? I was convinced with that role claim, even though I thought he was giving scum vibes initially.



The way you responded had me curious, cause it hardly made sense.

Unlynch

i will be back pretty soon. at uni[DOUBLEPOST=1502957100][/DOUBLEPOST]i will be back pretty soon. at uni

Big FOS: Villain
Lynch: swacker
@Fake Passport / @CerealKiller

swacker has been relentless in his search to find the players roles. Often hinting for them to claim. He seem to be aligning himself with Villain, if this is true they could be the scum from Mafia A. swacker also went after asprin.

 

[Villain]

Setup
Note : President Trump has the power to veto one lynch in the whole game.

Vanilla Townies

You are loyal to President Trump and want the leakers to be fired.

• Chief of Staff John Kelly
• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders - Rudolph
• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon
• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner - Surendar
• Secret Service Agent 1 - asprin

Town Watcher - Pres. Donald Trump

Mafia A Watcher - Secret Agent 2
Win condition:

• You win with Team-A Mafia, when all threats to it are dead or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Mafia A Goon - Robert Mueller

Mafia B Watcher - Vice Pres. Mike Pence
Win condition:

• You win with Team-B Mafia, when all threats to it are dead or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Mafia B Goon - Paul Ryan - Jack Ryder

The first two townies to be killed will not die

Big FOS: Villain
Lynch: swacker
@Fake Passport / @CerealKiller

swacker has been relentless in his search to find the players roles. Often hinting for them to claim. He seem to be aligning himself with Villain, if this is true they could be the scum from Mafia A. swacker also went after asprin.

Yes I'm Mueller, who's Bannon then? Some ghost?

All you did was sleep in the game after the claim mate and make this post, Swacker isn't a cleared town to me but Simon sounds more scum to me than him. Both could be mafias anyway.[DOUBLEPOST=1502969148][/DOUBLEPOST]And we aren't that stupid to back each other being mafia mates.

 

[El Loco]

Wait, I've been lost in my role-claim, I'm the Chief of Staff just to clarify. But at least I've got something to go on now. Trying to get the town on board is the hard part, I know I'd take some convincing if it were me, I just have to convey something that is irrefutable in my mind.

Pardon me, I got the lynch wrong damn it:

Unlynch
Lynch: PresidentEvil

 

[RUDI]

And we aren't that stupid to back each other being mafia mates.

Why so defensive mate? I didn't lynch you. Just FOS'ed ... take it easy

 

[RUDI]

Townies

• Chief of Staff John Kelly - El Loco (Claimed)
• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders - Rudolph (Claimed)
• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon (Claimed)
• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner - Surendar
• Secret Service Agent 1 - asprin

Who's left then?

• Town Watcher - Pres. Donald Trump
• Mafia A Watcher - Secret Agent 2
  
• Mafia A Goon - Robert Mueller
• Mafia B Watcher - Vice Pres. Mike Pence

swacker / PresidentEvil / AliB / Simon

 

[Villain]

Why so defensive mate? I didn't lynch you. Just FOS'ed ... take it easy

Not being defensive mate, I claimed way back in the game. There were no counterclaims till this point, it's just frustrating to see people have still not cleared me as town and some are buying Simon's bad theory of me and Swacker being teammates.

 

[Villain]

Townies

• Chief of Staff John Kelly - El Loco (Claimed)
• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders - Rudolph (Claimed)
• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon (Claimed)
• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner - Surendar
• Secret Service Agent 1 - asprin

Who's left then?

• Town Watcher - Pres. Donald Trump
• Mafia A Watcher - Secret Agent 2
  
• Mafia A Goon - Robert Mueller
• Mafia B Watcher - Vice Pres. Mike Pence

swacker / PresidentEvil / AliB / Simon

PresidentEvil and Loco both are claiming to be Kelly.

 

[Targaryen]

Wait, I've been lost in my role-claim, I'm the Chief of Staff just to clarify. But at least I've got something to go on now. Trying to get the town on board is the hard part, I know I'd take some convincing if it were me, I just have to convey something that is irrefutable in my mind.

Pardon me, I got the lynch wrong damn it:

Unlynch
Lynch: PresidentEvil

You are gone mate. Fake counter claim won't help you either. That confirms you as mafia aligned. XenForo has a cool feature where user is taken to unread posts first. Your were acting the whole time pretending as if you didn't read my claim until Villain quoted my post. Come on, this is Mafia game and you are an experienced member.

How did you miss my post where I claimed my role (which I posted in the morning) and just the replied to my post which I posted couple of hours ago? Now don't give a silly excuse that you directly opened the last page and replied. Lol, you are done and dusted. You got the private message from your team mate to counter claim and you messed up with lynching. Directly say that you read the PM after making that post and now saying that you mistyped Ali's name instead of mine.

 

[El Loco]

Just to make it clear, I was addressing PresidentEvil in my roleclaim, not AliB.

 

[Villain]

You are gone mate. Fake counter claim won't help you either. That confirms you as mafia aligned. XenForo has a cool feature where user is taken to unread posts first. Your were acting the whole time pretending as if you didn't read my claim until Villain quoted my post. Come on, this is Mafia game and you are an experienced member.

How did you miss my post where I claimed my role (which I posted in the morning) and just the replied to my post which I posted couple of hours ago? Now don't give a silly excuse that you directly opened the last page and replied. Lol, you are done and dusted. You got the private message from your team mate to counter claim and you messed up with lynching. Directly say that you read the PM after making that post and now saying that you mistyped Ali's name instead of mine.

I'm inclined towards believing your claim than Loco's mainly because you claimed it first up, that doesn't clear you 100% but still is something a townie would do. Plus Loco sounded too confused to start with.

I'm buying into Loco being a mafia alongside Simon and one of Swacker/AliB.

 

[RUDI]

Townies

• Chief of Staff John Kelly - El Loco (Claimed) / PresidentEvil (Claimed)
• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders - Rudolph (Claimed)
• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon (Claimed)
• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner - Surendar
• Secret Service Agent 1 - asprin

Who's left then?

• Town Watcher - Pres. Donald Trump
• Mafia A Watcher - Secret Agent 2
  
• Mafia A Goon - Robert Mueller
• Mafia B Watcher - Vice Pres. Mike Pence

swacker / AliB / Simon / El Loco ? / PresidentEvil ?

Who is John Kelly? @El Loco / @PresidentEvil

 

[Targaryen]

I'm inclined towards believing your claim than Loco's mainly because you claimed it first up, that doesn't clear you 100% but still is something a townie would do. Plus Loco sounded too confused to start with.

I'm buying into Loco being a mafia alongside Simon and one of Swacker/AliB.

And also I have claimed in the morning even after knowing that I will be inactive for next 4-5 hours which I did mention before claiming. Isn't it too risky for a mafia to fake claim and go inactive for hours? My claim would've been counter claimed and lynched to death before I could come online. That is how asprin was lynched in the last game without giving him time to post on his defense. And he ended up as mafia. The same would've been the situation if I fake claimed my role and go offline for 4-5 hours.

It is confirmed from my side that there is no possibility of El Loco being town as he fake claimed. My lynch stays. And hope to see other townies lynch him. Believe me and you won't regret.

 

[El Loco]

You are gone mate. Fake counter claim won't help you either. That confirms you as mafia aligned. XenForo has a cool feature where user is taken to unread posts first. Your were acting the whole time pretending as if you didn't read my claim until Villain quoted my post. Come on, this is Mafia game and you are an experienced member.

How did you miss my post where I claimed my role (which I posted in the morning) and just the replied to my post which I posted couple of hours ago? Now don't give a silly excuse that you directly opened the last page and replied. Lol, you are done and dusted. You got the private message from your team mate to counter claim and you messed up with lynching. Directly say that you read the PM after making that post and now saying that you mistyped Ali's name instead of mine.

Ok, quite far-fetched but a reasonable attempt at buying yourself some time. Aggrieved you should be, because I am intending to expose you and this will happen before the day ends.
The fact that you're bringing in the forum feature thing which I myself I'm not aware of is quite unsporting (it would be moreso if I was doing it to expose you as Mafia, but all I need is your claim) and is you desperately looking for something other than game play which is kind of sad really in a way.
I'm not irritated though because claiming is part of the game, how else are you going to salvage your position in the game? You seem more vexed than you ought to be though. Were you expecting no one would counterclaim? Lol.

Saw that someone claimed my role and obviously had to address that. Haven't directly corresponded with you so I didn't fully pay attention, I will kick myself if my role-claim hinges on that. That should be besides point though anyway.
Needs must at the end of the day, you will be lynched, you're Mafia, end of story. You're trying to box it off with the conclusive comments, except I'm the only one who's sure of your alignment. In fact, so are you. Don't give in though, this is what makes Mafia fun.

 

[Targaryen]

Ok, quite far-fetched but a reasonable attempt at buying yourself some time. Aggrieved you should be, because I am intending to expose you and this will happen before the day ends.
The fact that you're bringing in the forum feature thing which I myself I'm not aware of is quite unsporting (it would be moreso if I was doing it to expose you as Mafia, but all I need is your claim) and is you desperately looking for something other than game play which is kind of sad really in a way.
I'm not irritated though because claiming is part of the game, how else are you going to salvage your position in the game? You seem more vexed than you ought to be though. Were you expecting no one would counterclaim? Lol.

Saw that someone claimed my role and obviously had to address that. Haven't directly corresponded with you so I didn't fully pay attention, I will kick myself if my role-claim hinges on that. That should be besides point though anyway.
Needs must at the end of the day, you will be lynched, you're Mafia, end of story. You're trying to box it off with the conclusive comments, except I'm the only one who's sure of your alignment. In fact, so are you. Don't give in though, this is what makes Mafia fun.

You haven't seen how I play mafia game, have you? Villain and Rudolph know my game very well. Even Simon, swacker and Ali know my playing style as I have played 2-3 games with all of them except you.

What you are saying is that you would counter claim if somebody fake claimed your role. Now tell me, where were you all the day when I claimed my role and you were online in other thread, have replied to my post of lynching you and you are completely unaware of my role claim post? Lol.

The guy who is reading each and every post, completely missed my post and is now giving the philosophy that how the mafia game is played and not answering to my actual question.

It is not really necessary to know if the feature exists in xenforo or not. It doesn't make any difference if you know or don't know. Only thing that matters is the mechanism of Xenforo that automatically takes you to unread posts first even if you are not willing to read those.. Not Just in Mafia forum but all over the forums.

 

[Villain]

I'm buying into Loco being a mafia alongside Simon and one of Swacker/AliB.

For the above reasons and also the way PE put his claim in words along with reasoning makes me believe him more than Loco. Simon is anyway my target if I survive, he's pretty much Mueller. Loco is Pence since Simon is taking him as town while one of Swacker/AliB is SSA2.[DOUBLEPOST=1502972439][/DOUBLEPOST]Hence..

Unlynch

Lynch: El Loco

@Fake Passport @CerealKiller