End Game White House Mafia - El Loco & The Deadman win

[El Loco]

You haven't seen how I play mafia game, have you? Villain and Rudolph know my game very well. Even Simon, swacker and Ali know my playing style as I have played 2-3 games with all of them except you.

What you are saying is that you would counter claim if somebody fake claimed your role. Now tell me, where were you all the day when I claimed my role and you were online in other thread, have replied to my post of lynching you and you are completely unaware of my role claim post? Lol.

The guy who is reading each and every post, completely missed my post and is now giving the philosophy that how the mafia game is played and not answering to my actual question.

It is not really necessary to know if the feature exists in xenforo or not. It doesn't make any difference if you know or don't know. Only thing that matters is the mechanism of Xenforo that automatically takes you to unread posts first even if you are not willing to read those.. Not Just in Mafia forum but all over the forums.

Your playing style is not really an issue to me. I threw it out of the window as soon as you claimed my role, so that's all in vain for you really, don't see what you're trying to prove there. Now your trying appeal to them that they should vouch for you because they've...er...because they've played with you? Interesting. Anything else for me to deconstruct?
Oh yes, the presumption that because there's a green thingy in the corner of my avatar (sexiest avatar on the whole forum by the way, come at me brah), I'm meticulously sifting through everything on the forum. Unfortunately that's not the case. Added to the fact that in an open-setup where unrefuted role-claims come to the fore, I see no point in contributing anything that constitutes as filler. I am guilty of that sometimes, but not today.

That little story you conjured up was quite elaborate too and obviously premeditated. All I can do is just sit here and wait for you to try and pin something else on me really.

 

[Villain]

Your playing style is not really an issue to me. I threw it out of the window as soon as you claimed my role, so that's all in vain for you really, don't see what you're trying to prove there. Now your trying appeal to them that they should vouch for you because they've...er...because they've played with you? Interesting. Anything else for me to deconstruct?
Oh yes, the presumption that because there's a green thingy in the corner of my avatar (sexiest avatar on the whole forum by the way, come at me brah), I'm meticulously sifting through everything on the forum. Unfortunately that's not the case. Added to the fact that in an open-setup where unrefuted role-claims come to the fore, I see no point in contributing anything that constitutes as filler. I am guilty of that sometimes, but not today.

That little story you conjured up was quite elaborate too and obviously premeditated. All I can do is just sit here and wait for you to try and pin something else on me really.

What are your views on Simon? He did not counterclaim and asked people if they're Kelly. What makes him that?

 

[Targaryen]

Your playing style is not really an issue to me. I threw it out of the window as soon as you claimed my role, so that's all in vain for you really, don't see what you're trying to prove there. Now your trying appeal to them that they should vouch for you because they've...er...because they've played with you? Interesting. Anything else for me to deconstruct?

You have used words like desperately, vexed, aggreived in your last post. So it is quite clear that you haven't seen my game. That's the reason why I'm talking about my game style. And mind you, I've not taken only the townies names but also the names of the people who are for sure the mafia aligned. You saying me that I'm trying to appeal to them to vouch for me doesn't make any sense.

And also I'm advocating the open setup games where role claim would be risky for mafia. So why would I role claim knowing the fact that it would be end of game for me if I faked it?

If I were the mafia, I would've fake claimed as President to get him out of darkness and make him role claim so that I could night kill him. You can go through my post and see how I'm asking president not to claim his role and his role is very important. And yes, I've been doing this since the start of game.

I've nothing to say more than this. You are gone and you did a big mistake by fake claiming as I was forming an angle that you might be the President (because your posts were giving the town vibe). But your fake counter-claim just confirmed that you are mafia.

Done and Dusted!

 

[El Loco]

You have used words like desperately, vexed, aggreived in your last post. So it is quite clear that you haven't seen my game. That's the reason why I'm talking about my game style. And mind you, I've not taken only the townies names but also the names of the people who are for sure the mafia aligned. You saying me that I'm trying to appeal to them to vouch for me doesn't make any sense.

Keeping in line with how you'd act if you were townie, by asking people to see how you've played in the past when you were town is all I see here. It's evident you've obviously thought this through quite a lot. Stop appealing for others to vouch for you, it doesn't work like that.

And also I'm advocating the open setup games where role claim would be risky for mafia. So why would I role claim knowing the fact that it would be end of game for me if I faked it?

If I were the mafia, I would've fake claimed as President to get him out of darkness and make him role claim so that I could night kill him. You can go through my post and see how I'm asking president not to claim his role and his role is very important. And yes, I've been doing this since the start of game.

When you've already got a good number of townies that have claimed and all the bulletproof vests gone? Doesn't hold up.
You are Mafia, and you claimed a role that you thought nobody else was going to CC. Like I'd stand by and watch while somebody claims my role, gross underestimation on your part.

I've nothing to say more than this. You are gone and you did a big mistake by fake claiming as I was forming an angle that you might be the President (because your posts were giving the town vibe). But your fake counter-claim just confirmed that you are mafia.

The classic thought you were town until you made me feel uncomfortable stance.
All I want to see now is the town decision process in lynching you or me, so I can go about tackling that because it seems I've got my work cut out at the moment. This correspondence is wrapped up now as the claim was all I needed to begin with, so thanks for that.

 

[El Loco]

What are your views on Simon? He did not counterclaim and asked people if they're Kelly. What makes him that?

Testing the waters perhaps. I'm only sure of one persons alignment in this game as of now. You're basically suggesting that he was getting ready to claim the same role right? It's a reasonable position to take, one that you've only just brought to my attention. I guess a big tell is the decision he makes next, or rather his reasoning behind it.
I was sitting back until I claimed, but I guess this is part of parcel of trying to prove that you're town, so I am ready for it.

 

[Targaryen]

and you claimed a role that you thought nobody else was going to CC.

If that was the case, I wouldn't have claimed and go inactive for 4-5 hours.

Whatever you are trying to frame and convince the town will end in some big questions - why didn't you CC even after my claim (4-5 hrs.)? Why you completely missed my claim post even after reading my post and replying to my post? There were so many posts that were made asking if my claim would be counter claimed. You missed those as well? Lol

The only possible way the mafia can win is to convince town for mislynch and kill the other townies at night to reduce our majority in the game. And they were waiting for a possible way they could lynch someone and El Loco has been doing this by fake CC.

I have so many reasons for calling El Loco as mafia but he has just two kinds of posts = "PE is taking game style to prove his claim, I will counter claim if someone claims my role."

@RUDOLPH @Villain and president, I have asked some many questions to El Loco only to see him changing the topics and not answering my questions. But I have answered/replied to his every post so far. Only few hours left to end the day. Please read my posts and take a right decision.

 

[El Loco]

The online card is quite an interesting he's chosen to play. Yet I don't see him checking the thread while he's posting.
Scrutinise other people for what they're doing while online but block yourself from this very scrutiny. The stench of hypocrisy is quite poignant.

 

[El Loco]

@RUDOLPH @Villain and president, I have asked some many questions to El Loco only to see him changing the topics and not answering my questions. But I have answered/replied to his every post so far. Only few hours left to end the day. Please read my posts and take a right decision.

Frustration apparent in only painting a picture of what he wants everybody else to see. Watch the tone change when he thinks he's getting a bandwagon started on me.

 

[Targaryen]

Frustration adamant in only painting a picture of what he wants everybody else to see. Watch the tone change when he thinks he's getting a bandwagon started on me.

I will be asking one thing until this day ends - Answer my questions and don't change the topic.

 

[El Loco]

I will be asking one thing until this day ends - Answer my questions and don't change the topic.

Since you're Mafia any questions you ask me are worthless to me to begin with, possibly a device that I can use to clear up any suspicions of me at best. I can see the audacity in you trying to portray that I actually have something to prove to you directly. The need to do that was pointless as soon as you claimed, no point trying to get you to acknowledge that though. It's about the town as a whole now.

 

[RUDI]

Interesting to see @Simon online here and not posting. Who is Fake claiming Simon?
Unlynch
Lynch : El Loco
@CerealKiller / @Fake Passport

 

[Targaryen]

Lol Why I'm trying so hard? Anyone? It's not me but El Loco who should be proving that his CC is the truth and not mine. I have claimed first and there was no counter claim by anyone for 5 hours and suddenly someone pops up and says that he is Counter Claiming. It is very surprising that he has missed my claim post and messed up while lynching at first place. Do you think El Loco has been posting anything worth proving his CC is true? He is like 'hey, I'm John Kelly and PE is not. Why should I prove my claim?'

 

[RUDI]

Unofficial lynch count :
PresidentEvil (1) - El loco
El loco (3) - PresidentEvil / Villain / Rudolph

 

[El Loco]

The online card is quite an interesting he's chosen to play. Yet I don't see him checking the thread while he's posting.
Scrutinise other people for what they're doing while online but block yourself from this very scrutiny. The stench of hypocrisy is quite poignant.

Excellent, he's now decided to sidestep this conveniently. I've got no issue with this superficially but if you've got a glass house you shouldn't really be chucking the stones.
Thanks for giving it to me on a plate, how many more times do I have to use this guys' own logic against him?

No idea if the remaining townies will be able to see reason or not, and I'm not interested in a tie, leaving it to chance or anything of the sort. I want him gone.
Help me get rid of this guy so that we can press on with other things, the other claim is going to be even even more chaotic and the prospect of having to make sense of that is going to be on my mind too. Not often does an opportunity come around where I'm presented a Mafia goon right in front of my face, I'll be gutted if the town lets it slip away.

 

[Targaryen]

Excellent, he's now decided to sidestep this conveniently. I've got no issue with this superficially but if you've got a glass house you shouldn't really be chucking the stones.
Thanks for giving it to me on a plate, how many more times do I have to use this guys' own logic against him?

No idea if the remaining townies will be able to see reason or not, and I'm not interested in a tie, leaving it to chance or anything of the sort. I want him gone.
Help me get rid of this guy so that we can press on with other things, the other claim is going to be even even more chaotic and the prospect of having to make sense of that is going to be on my mind too. Not often does an opportunity come around where I'm presented a Mafia goon right in front of my face, I'll be gutted if the town lets it slip away.

Now why do you want to see my activity? It's been invisible for the past 3 yrs. Is there any reward to make it visible for this game and get rewarded? Please let me know and I'll do it. And I see where you are going.

You like to talk and talk and talk. You are not really interested in proving your counter claim.