Who Should be the next Indian coach

[grkrama]

Darren lehman is temperamental though not in the scale of ganguly but he is still a loudmouth and he did hog the media quite a bit, still the side has improved under him! That said i dont think it would suit him either nor does it look like something that interests him!

 

[LiveLoveABD]

The problem with Dada is that he is a media magnet. Anything he does will be heavily scrutinized. And the man is temperamental. He can say things off his mouth that can easily be repented for. Like the way he responded back to Shastri recently. Such talkers should not be coaches because the coach job should be highly underplayed and preferably should be taken up by someone who has a lot of control over their emotions. I still dont see Dada as someone who has enough control over emotions to be coach of a side like India where its like walking on a bed of thorns.

Excellent, excellent post! It's even more valid for the sub continent teams because in the turbulent times, the media and certain sections of the fans add fuel to the fire. Ganguly would be an awful coach no matter how good he might be tactfully, but without there being any smoke or any fire you can totally see the media coming up with BS like 'Kohli and Ganguly fight fire with fire' and all that crap. Indian coaches need to be those that work silently in the background. Period. As for Ganguly, his place is firmly in cricket administration. He will call a spade, a spade and he knows how to put the idiots in their place.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Darren lehman is temperamental though not in the scale of ganguly but he is still a loudmouth and he did hog the media quite a bit, still the side has improved under him! That said i dont think it would suit him either nor does it look like something that interests him!

I personally don't feel Australia are that good a side. Lehmann was made to look good by a fast bowler and I mean a genuinely fast bowler at the peak of his powers. For example, Steyn has been magic for a decade but the casual cricket fan will remember the 6 months of devastation Mitchell Johnson created with helmets flying, test sides disintegrating and a HUGE series win against SA in their own den. Other than that, the WC was at home and frankly, that was George Bailey's trophy. It was he who built that team for the WC, not Lehmann and certainly not Clarke. Let Australia come to India, I predict a SOUND hammering although Nathan Lyon will surprise a lot of people.

 

[SaiSrini]

Excellent, excellent post! It's even more valid for the sub continent teams because in the turbulent times, the media and certain sections of the fans add fuel to the fire. Ganguly would be an awful coach no matter how good he might be tactfully, but without there being any smoke or any fire you can totally see the media coming up with BS like 'Kohli and Ganguly fight fire with fire' and all that crap. Indian coaches need to be those that work silently in the background. Period. As for Ganguly, his place is firmly in cricket administration. He will call a spade, a spade and he knows how to put the idiots in their place.

Completely agree! Ganguly as a board administrator will do a lot more good to the game.

 

[grkrama]

I personally don't feel Australia are that good a side. Lehmann was made to look good by a fast bowler and I mean a genuinely fast bowler at the peak of his powers. For example, Steyn has been magic for a decade but the casual cricket fan will remember the 6 months of devastation Mitchell Johnson created with helmets flying, test sides disintegrating and a HUGE series win against SA in their own den. Other than that, the WC was at home and frankly, that was George Bailey's trophy. It was he who built that team for the WC, not Lehmann and certainly not Clarke. Let Australia come to India, I predict a SOUND hammering although Nathan Lyon will surprise a lot of people.

The point was in ref to saisrini that temperamental coaches do not always affect side in a bad way rather than shoving the credit to lehman fully!


Also im not banging for ganguly to become head coach but to say that he will surely be detrimental to the side if he became one is not something i can agree with!

 

[LiveLoveABD]

The point was in ref to saisrini that temperamental coaches do not always affect side in a bad way rather than shoving the credit to lehman fully!


Also im not banging for ganguly to become head coach but to say that he will surely be detrimental to the side if he became one is not something i can agree with!

I respect your opinion, though I have a different view.

 

[SaiSrini]

The point was in ref to saisrini that temperamental coaches do not always affect side in a bad way rather than shoving the credit to lehman fully!

Also im not banging for ganguly to become head coach but to say that he will surely be detrimental to the side if he became one is not something i can agree with!

No one can say with 100% assurance that someone will be detrimental to the side if they become coach. What we are saying is, a guy of Ganguly/Shastri's personalities are better served as directors or administrators and not a coach. Same with Kohli. Tomorrow when he retires, with his personality he wont be suited for a coaching role. A coaching role has to have that quality of an underplayed personality, especially within the Indian setup. People like Kapil Dev, Greg Chappell didn't do well as coach for our country because they are very strong personalities. Wright and Kirsten worked wonderfully for us because they were willing to be behind the scenes and underplayed themselves.

In an Australian or South African culture, probably stronger personalities will work. Not in ours.

 

[Satan666]

Requesting a lock on this thread, has served its purpose the Indian Coach has already been selected, lets move on please.

 

[grkrama]

Requesting a lock on this thread, has served its purpose the Indian Coach has already been selected, lets move on please.

pseudo mod behaviour

No one can say with 100% assurance that someone will be detrimental to the side if they become coach. What we are saying is, a guy of Ganguly/Shastri's personalities are better served as directors or administrators and not a coach. Same with Kohli. Tomorrow when he retires, with his personality he wont be suited for a coaching role. A coaching role has to have that quality of an underplayed personality, especially within the Indian setup. People like Kapil Dev, Greg Chappell didn't do well as coach for our country because they are very strong personalities. Wright and Kirsten worked wonderfully for us because they were willing to be behind the scenes and underplayed themselves.

In an Australian or South African culture, probably stronger personalities will work. Not in ours.

I beg to differ with my opinion, may be in 90s and 0oughts stronger personalities would not have worked, but this gen it can be good, for ex : The ENG tour we were shastri and raina catalysed the tour the moment they arrived!

Kohli has the best work ethic and the guy has made great transition in terms of maturity and does get best out of people, if he is interested he may make a great coach its to premature to tell he wont be a good coach! I dont believe in confining people to roles because they are tad more aggressive !

Sorry for being a blockhead on this may be being a ganguly fan makes me biased.. but im happy with jumbo as coach and do wish he does well for our team!

 

[Yash.]

'Talented' lol.

India never been able to produce a world class fast bowler, you had one in Zaheer but injuries, mismanagement and dissent got the better of him. What is apparent now also is the lack of a quality spinner. So yeah agreed need a viable bowling coach, why not Curtly Ambrose?

Ahem ahem.... If Zaheer was the only was the only world class bowler, then was Kapil Dev an Australian?

 

[Satan666]

Ahem ahem.... If Zaheer was the only was the only world class bowler, then was Kapil Dev an Australian?

I cant argue that Kapil Dev was not a world class bowler, however he is more appreciated for his allround abilities as oppose to solely his bowling exploits.

 

[SaiSrini]

Ahem ahem.... If Zaheer was the only was the only world class bowler, then was Kapil Dev an Australian?

Kapil Dev has failed as coach once before. He coached India when Tendulkar was captain and that period was bad. I dont think Kapil will come back for a coaching role again, especially with Indian team.

 

[zwarrior]

Kapil Dev has failed as coach once before. He coached India when Tendulkar was captain and that period was bad. I dont think Kapil will come back for a coaching role again, especially with Indian team.

I don't think they were discussing that kapil dev should be coach. They were talking about good bowlers India have generated.

 

[SaiSrini]

I don't think they were discussing that kapil dev should be coach. They were talking about good bowlers India have generated.

I thought his post was in the context of "why is Zaheer being pushed for bowling coach role" and I assumed that considering the primary discussion of this thread, which is about who should be the next India coach. His post was out of the blue and didn't reference any quote.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I personally don't feel Australia are that good a side. Lehmann was made to look good by a fast bowler and I mean a genuinely fast bowler at the peak of his powers. For example, Steyn has been magic for a decade but the casual cricket fan will remember the 6 months of devastation Mitchell Johnson created with helmets flying, test sides disintegrating and a HUGE series win against SA in their own den. Other than that, the WC was at home and frankly, that was George Bailey's trophy. It was he who built that team for the WC, not Lehmann and certainly not Clarke. Let Australia come to India, I predict a SOUND hammering although Nathan Lyon will surprise a lot of people.

Turns out, SL are enough.