Will Ganguly come back to the heights he achieved before?

furyfoxx said:
hmm 117 of 143 balls on a pacey, juicy track against north zone bowlers.... didnt the say Dada's afraid of fast bowlers? ;)
Thats the old Saurav. The new fears no one, after meeting Chappel that is.
 
saisrini80 said:
yes, but still that determination has only inspired him to play the way he has played!

lets not get too much into this! let him score more runs! definitely based on this century, he deserves a call back into the team! so what if he doesnt play the first two games of the sri lanka series? he can replace raina or rao (if either of them dont perform!)... hope this is a permanent turnaround for this great man who has been of a great service to indian cricket!

absolutely agree with the determination part. but it would be unfair to rao and raina after a good performance in the challengers.

still i believe that we need Ganguly especially for a srilanka series cause he's still the best player of spin we have rite now
 
Ganguly can be better than Raina.. We can have his experience in the squad! But if Kaif comes back, Rao also might have to make way in the final XI because Ganguly and Kaif are valuable cricketers!

Here would be my team for the third ODI

Saurav Ganguly
Sachin Tendulkar
Mohammed Kaif
Virender Sehwag
Rahul Dravid
Yuvraj Singh
MS Dhoni
Irfan Pathan
Murali Kartik
Harbhajan Singh
Sreesanth

Super Sub: Ajit Agarkar (or) Venugopal Rao

ZoraxDoom said:
Thats the old Saurav. The new fears no one, after meeting Chappel that is.

Definitely! I too feel his working with Chappell might have changed him! He did not care much about his form and game too much before Chappell came! Now he is more and more concerned about his batting form! Thats what Chappell has made it out to be!
 
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Ganguly is back with a bang..with a century for East Zone. In this innings he played some vintage Ganguly shots through the off side and he scored 117 runs of only 140-odd balls. He rarely mistimed a shot. He was also dominant. The Prince of Kolkata is back!
 
saisrini80 said:
Ganguly can be better than Raina.. We can have his experience in the squad! But if Kaif comes back, Rao also might have to make way in the final XI because Ganguly and Kaif are valuable cricketers!

Here would be my team for the third ODI

Saurav Ganguly
Sachin Tendulkar
Mohammed Kaif
Virender Sehwag
Rahul Dravid
Yuvraj Singh
MS Dhoni
Irfan Pathan
Murali Kartik
Harbhajan Singh
Sreesanth

Super Sub: Ajit Agarkar (or) Venugopal Rao

yep good line up. but i think it would be better if agarkar was in the main eleven and Sreesanth was the Super Sub. It would be better to have an experienced bowler opening the bowling with pathan. (Atleast in the first game....)
 
One thing that irks me a lot of guys like Ganguly is he doesnt derive motivation & determination from playing for the country but when he is pushed to a harsh corner and is stripped of his place in the team (and possible big bucks!), he roars back and scores big runs! Why is that?

Anyway to furyfoxx, Sreesanth is a faster bowler than Agarkar and has more pace! He should be tried as the opening bowler with Pathan! Zaheer Khan started off the same way opening against Kenya and Australia in the Champions Trophy in 2000 and succeeded in a big way!
 
I dont think Ganguly should open the innings. He should come in the middle order, so we have something big to fall back on. I really dont want Sehwag batting at number 4 because:

Sehwag needs to make full use of the field restrictions. Otherwise its a big advantage to the bowling side. I dont really care if he gets i=out in the first 15-20 overs if he makes 70+ runs!

We all know that Sehwag, at times, can get out to rash strokes. Say we are 60/3. Do u really want Sehwag to play a rash stroke and make that 60/4?? I dont think so.

Saurav has had some of his best times off late at the number 3 slot. He should regain that slot, and he seems to be very comfterbale when playing there, rather than against the fast and swinging bowlers of maharoof and vass.

heres my line up:

Tendulkar
Sehwag
Ganguly
Kaif
Dravid
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Pathan
Yadav
Harbajan
Sreesanth.

Super Sub: Venu/ uthappa.
 
Cricketman93 said:
I dont think Ganguly should open the innings. He should come in the middle order, so we have something big to fall back on. I really dont want Sehwag batting at number 4 because:

Sehwag needs to make full use of the field restrictions. Otherwise its a big advantage to the bowling side. I dont really care if he gets i=out in the first 15-20 overs if he makes 70+ runs!

We all know that Sehwag, at times, can get out to rash strokes. Say we are 60/3. Do u really want Sehwag to play a rash stroke and make that 60/4?? I dont think so.

Saurav has had some of his best times off late at the number 3 slot. He should regain that slot, and he seems to be very comfterbale when playing there, rather than against the fast and swinging bowlers of maharoof and vass.

heres my line up:

Tendulkar
Sehwag
Ganguly
Kaif
Dravid
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Pathan
Yadav
Harbajan
Sreesanth.

Super Sub: Venu/ uthappa.

Playing all 6 batsman, Dhoni and then Yadav would be a bad idea! If we want to play Yadav, drop a batsman! Going in with 4 specialist bowlers itself is not ideal. Going with 3 specialist bowlers (excluding Yadav who is not a specialist bowler!) is foolish!
 
saisrini80 said:
One thing that irks me a lot of guys like Ganguly is he doesnt derive motivation & determination from playing for the country but when he is pushed to a harsh corner and is stripped of his place in the team (and possible big bucks!), he roars back and scores big runs! Why is that?

Anyway to furyfoxx, Sreesanth is a faster bowler than Agarkar and has more pace! He should be tried as the opening bowler with Pathan! Zaheer Khan started off the same way opening against Kenya and Australia in the Champions Trophy in 2000 and succeeded in a big way!

First off, in defence of Ganguly i must say that he was passing through a major slump in his career. that does not qualify as an excuse for bad performance. i guess he needed a break from captaincy and the pressures that come with it (even the best need a break at times) plus i dont think that in today's game any player needs to be reminded of his responsibility to the country... definitely someone like sourav or sachin who've played so much of the game.

Secondly about S. Sreesanth. I dont think the question is about the pace at which he bowls. it would be awkward to throw him prematurely into the international arena considering the experince that he has. we all know wat inexperience and striving for pace did to zaheer and co in the world cup finals. atleast for the first match he shud be made supersub to get a feel of the game.

this is my ideal team from the 3rd game onwards

Sachin
Sehwag
Ganguly
Dravid
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Agarkar
Pathan
Harbhajan
Kartik
Super Sub: Rao or Sreesanth

unless Sreesanth bowls well in the first 2 matches.

hey this is domething interesting i read... ganguly has hit 5 first class centuries in 2005 inspite of his slump. his problem seems to be with international matches only. perhaps the pressure of performance is too much in such matches?
 
furyfoxx said:
First off, in defence of Ganguly i must say that he was passing through a major slump in his career. that does not qualify as an excuse for bad performance. i guess he needed a break from captaincy and the pressures that come with it (even the best need a break at times) plus i dont think that in today's game any player needs to be reminded of his responsibility to the country... definitely someone like sourav or sachin who've played so much of the game.

Secondly about S. Sreesanth. I dont think the question is about the pace at which he bowls. it would be awkward to throw him prematurely into the international arena considering the experince that he has. we all know wat inexperience and striving for pace did to zaheer and co in the world cup finals. atleast for the first match he shud be made supersub to get a feel of the game.

this is my ideal team from the 3rd game onwards

Sachin
Sehwag
Ganguly
Dravid
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Agarkar
Pathan
Harbhajan
Kartik
Super Sub: Rao or Sreesanth

unless Sreesanth bowls well in the first 2 matches.

hey this is domething interesting i read... ganguly has hit 5 first class centuries in 2005 inspite of his slump. his problem seems to be with international matches only. perhaps the pressure of performance is too much in such matches?

Where is the 11th player? your team has only 11 players including the Super Sub whearas the Super Sub is actually the 12th player (11 players + 1).

Kaif most probably wont play in this Sri lanka series. he has a small chance of playing the last two ODI's but I dont think the selectors might go for a comeback from Kaif for just two matches. So it would be good that either Raina or Rao would get to play some good amount of matches. I would go for Rao since he adds more stability to the batting along with Dravid and he can accelerate beautifully!
 

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