3rd Test: England v Australia at Old Trafford Aug 1-5, 2013

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It's going to rain. It's going to be a draw. We're going to keep hold of the urn until we come over there.

That's how I see it, Clarke and the Aussies did their best to score as fast as possible yet the umpires took them off for bad light...even though lights are now allowed, simply ridiculous if you ask me.

This day will be affected by light and rain and the Aussies will feel like they've lost, I can't see them playing better than this

 

[barmyarmy]

^ What he said

Some squeaky bum time waiting for it to rain though...

 

[angad]

Wow...2 wickets down!! I think Clarke should have a bowl at KP...specially with the odd ball turning!!

 

[Skater]

I was initially for the DRS but I'm now thinking it is more trouble than it's worth. Trott should have been LBW, Pietersen didn't hit it... calamity after calamity.

 

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Wow...2 wickets down!! I think Clarke should have a bowl at KP...specially with the odd ball turning!!

they didn't need Clarke lol but what a terrible decision, as bad as Khawaja's, what is happening? There was a time when umpires looked at hotspot, saw there was no spot and bang, no out. I don't understand how things have changed? Did the ICC say something to the umpires.

Ok there's a slight noise but the evidence is so flimsy it's ridiculous.

The DRS is being made into a laughing stock by these umpires and al those people who say DRS is bad for the game are having a field day. The technology is fine, fire these umpires who can't make obvious decisions.

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I was initially for the DRS but I'm now thinking it is more trouble than it's worth. Trott should have been LBW, Pietersen didn't hit it... calamity after calamity.

I keep repeating myself, but it's not the DRS' fault is it? It's the fault of the people using it and the message the ICC is sending. Come on!

 

[midgetwars]

Khawaja feels better now...

 

[Skater]

I keep repeating myself, but it's not the DRS' fault is it? It's the fault of the people using it and the message the ICC is sending. Come on!

The answer, for me, is to introduce a specialist TV umpire. An umpire who has been specially trained to use the technology and whatnot. I'm sure the umpires already have training, but I would like someone who has the sole job of being the TV umpire. Then they might start using the technology correctly.

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Snicko shows a noise. I believe when DRS was brought in they disregarded Snicko because it took too long to set up after an incident, but in recent times this seems to have been reduced considerably. Time to bring it in maybe?

 

[Hooper]

Khawaja copped a bad one.. KP probably hit it.


Ah well, that's cricket.. Good bowling either way. Not sure about Lyon though, he's a solid spinner just doesn't seem to grab wickets.

Lets see what Pup can do.

 

[midgetwars]

That was 1-1 on evidence only with DRS. So therefore it should stick with the umpire's decision.

 

[angryangy]

They are saying that they will eventually bring in a new version of snickometer.

For this one though, the sounds was pretty clear in the footage. It was enough to back the umpire, I think, or at least to not 100% disagree with him. I think KP's reaction doesn't prove that he didn't hit it, only that he didn't feel it, which is another aspect of the game; same with batsmen hitting their pad and reviewing.

 

[whiteninness]

Anyone who says that is a square up is wrong, Pietersen smacked that, no matter how much of a dick he wants to act.

I still hate how the system is implemented though. DRS has three things: video, sound and hot spot. They need to specify how much they need to overturn a decision, because obviously a null result on hot spot isn't sufficient. Maybe that's fair enough but at least let us know what the system is.

 

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The answer, for me, is to introduce a specialist TV umpire. An umpire who has been specially trained to use the technology and whatnot. I'm sure the umpires already have training, but I would like someone who has the sole job of being the TV umpire. Then they might start using the technology correctly.

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Snicko shows a noise. I believe when DRS was brought in they disregarded Snicko because it took too long to set up after an incident, but in recent times this seems to have been reduced considerably. Time to bring it in maybe?

yeah bring in snicko, 100% agreed but I don't understand whats gone wrong with the umpiring. We weren't seeing such ridiculous decisions less than 6 months ago, the DRS stats showed a huge increase in improving decisions.

I definitely believe this is the ICC sending mixed messages to the umpires, especially the Khawaja decision, is the DRS there to back up umpire decisions or give us the right decision?

 

[midgetwars]

Anyone who says that is a square up is wrong, Pietersen smacked that, no matter how much of a dick he wants to act.

I still hate how the system is implemented though. DRS has three things: video, sound and hot spot. They need to specify how much they need to overturn a decision, because obviously a null result on hot spot isn't sufficient. Maybe that's fair enough but at least let us know what the system is.

Exactly, there is no specific rule set to overturn an umpire's decision at all. Unlike LBW, 50% thing sticks with umpire.

 

[Owzat]

I think England have been too cautious batting and could pay the penalty, make runs while the sun shines should be the motto.

I was quite shocked to see three wickets down, even more to see a crawling rate. The only way I can see England losing, well two ways, is Bell to get out and both Root and Bairstow are inexperienced and could crumble, or just some poor play.

Didn't I say earlier in the thread that none of Cook, Trott and Prior have had particularly good series so far? We've got away with it in relative low scoring matches in the series

 

[angryangy]

Yeah, it could have been a lot closer series with a tiny bit more performance from the Australians. Anderson is the standout bowler and Bell the standout batsman. Otherwise England has been pretty human.