Ashes Cricket General Discussion

Big Ant need to stop chasing the licenses.

I've seen the argument on here that Ashes Cricket 17's post-release is hampered by the mess that is AO Tennis. And that they are a small studio that cannot spread their resources like others. Simple, don't bring out two unfinished games in quick succession. Who else would bring out two official games which are still not finished after their respective IPs have ended?

The Ashes game had to most likely be release during the most recent Ashes series. An Aus developer would be unlikely to base an Ashes game in England for the next series. In terms of modelling stadia and domestic marketing is easier than global marketing. Therefore, lets assume this release is set in stone.

However, the Aus Open deal should not have aimed to release a game this year. If they cannot cope with two games it should have been pushed to next year, or the license should not have been accepted.

DBC14 was a solid first entry into a largely untapped sport. DBC17 was an improvement but when the same issues remained and future ones arose, I lost faith. It was not supported post-release most likely because of the upcoming Ashes game.

I also sense some form of Stockholm Syndrome on this forum; with many happy to accept failings because no one else is making a cricket game. This is the third in the series and the game is a skeleton of an actual game without working AI. The opposition still don't know how to set a field, like maybe using the whole allocated number of fielders outside the inner ring.

They will have future games, so the dilemma for BA would be to commit to their current games or divert resources to the future. Drastic (and unlikely) improvements in AC17 now would not see a sudden rise in game sales. The selling period for this game is all but over. They are only patching it now in order for the current player base to be attracted to future releases.

Also, the cricket games cannot be fixed with patches. There needs to be root and branch change in the whole gameplay. Pegging the run rate 3.50 is a joke and just shows that they cut corners to make a game look presentable without having a working interior.

I opened a thread here that the marketing of unique animations was very strange. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors with BA advertising face scans and unique animations, and not marketing the actual gameplay. For Example, why are they bringing out stadium creators when their take on the sport is inherently flawed. Oh look what has just released for AO Tennis.

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There are also arguments shot down on here because the poster is not writing in their first language. Whilst there are some crazies on here, there are definite undertones of bullying and belittling.

If someone posts a thought, don't just patronise them by correcting their spelling and grammar.
 
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If someone posts a thought, don't just patronise them by correcting their spelling and grammar.

I feel compelled to add my support to this - I've been whistle-stopping around Europe the past couple of months and I have a ever-more-inflated respect for those that speak such amazing English as a second language. So many countries where I maybe know two or three words ("Hi", "Bye", "Thank you" is basically my limit most places) and they can converse fluently.

So yeah - I agree. No grammar corrections is fine by me. More tolerance for that. (Unless I KNOW that you should know better... obv.) :)
 
Was there an issue with distribution in the UK?

Well. Maybe not. It might just be that you can't make this work any more. The marketing was clearly MUCH better this year, but in terms of actually getting it onto shelves it was nowhere that I could see looking around shops. And the retail sales were terrible.
It might just be the market making that happen rather than the distributor, but it was rather disappointing: Koch are usually very good so I wondered if this might be a factor.
 
It went to the bargain bin pretty quickly on the consoles and could be bought for £20 because its not very good and its a niche game.Only the pc players including myself got royally ripped off.
 
It still has not reached the Shores of South Africa in Physical Copy guise , hence only option for us is Digital Download...
 
It still has not reached the Shores of South Africa in Physical Copy guise , hence only option for us is Digital Download...
Hey acid guy I managed to get my copy from games4u (or was it bt games I'm not sure).

Got it last month. Paid R799. They even told me that they was selling this game like crazy and it was the last one available but they will re - order.
 
Well. Maybe not. It might just be that you can't make this work any more. The marketing was clearly MUCH better this year, but in terms of actually getting it onto shelves it was nowhere that I could see looking around shops. And the retail sales were terrible.
It might just be the market making that happen rather than the distributor, but it was rather disappointing: Koch are usually very good so I wondered if this might be a factor.

weird. i've seen it in every supermarket and the local game and i live in a provincial shithole
 
The mobile game doesn't interest me at all. I'm much more interested in how AO Tennis gets what seems like 10 patches (lets face it, it was in a disgraceful state at release) with no known community beta team, inside of a month from release.

Meanwhile, here the consumer gets to enjoy everything being kept secret, the beta team and Big Ant sharing zero, being kept in the dark as months go by.

Surely the message Big Ant is sharing to all cricket fans is: "Please, please have the sense to NOT buy our game until 6 months after release. If you do you're a fool".

What else is there to take from this unapologetic, take-it-or-leave-it kind of prospect? Perhaps there's a feeling that once this next patch drops that if it's half decent we'll forget everything and shell out again for the next one, no matter what, after all we did this time and the time before that for DBC'17.

the difference for me is tennis got honest reviews from the media, ashes didn't. i saw the builds that ashes would have been reviewed on, and believe me they were not the 7/8+ that ashes was given. there was a build that was a solid 7.5 or better (lack of pitch variation mainly let it down, plus AI fields, but otherwise gameplay was solid). but ashes was not reviewed on that build, and the scores that were posted were simply dishonest.

unfortunately for the community, the best build we had in beta coincided with the embargo lift, so you got a lot of positivity. unfortunately that build was never released, but even so the day one release was head and shoulders above the current build.

the community need to hold BA accountable, and the only way to do that is turn our backs on future releases until they are proven to be adequate. if it risks them withdrawing from the market, so be it. the current approach isn't serving the community.

BA talked a huge game around self-publishing and backing their game. if they hadn't messed up build 1.04, this game would have got literally one day of support. as it was it got 2. the "3rd patch" was a fig leaf. there has not been a single improvement made to this game since release, only regression. it won't change because they've got their sales, they've got their reviews. tennis they had to sort because it was disastrous.
 
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