Ashes to Ashes Mafia - Endgame (SK win)

[CremerCurrans]

We'll have two drunk/hangover players then.

 

[CG123]

Well firstly I might as well unlynch WC since it looks like he's going to hang around for another night/day. The thing with him though is that this is his 7th game, was he like this in his 5th and 6th? Surely he couldn't have been this useless.

Unlynch: WC

Noted RPHKR and Swirler's posts here. As town we're never agreeing to lynch anyone today (except possibly WC, but i can't see that either) so it's not really prudent to post them now, but I have reasonably strong thoughts on both of those posts.

What do you mean by "it's not really prudent to post them now"? So you're happy just to have another no lynch?

RPHKR posted his actual thoughts like I've been wanting the rest of you to do, in doing so though he made a bit of mess. His quoting of swirler's posts was rather strange, since is all he said about them was "He was just questioning WC like others", when that's pretty much what everyone was doing on day one.

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Manly just hasn't really done anything. I think he normally just plays like this no matter what he is though, so I'm not really sure what it makes me think of him.

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I'd expect the likes of him and Ste to be adding a bit more though if they are town, since they both no what they're doing.

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Interesting how RPHKR keeps on going on about getting WC replaced, twice in his above post. Do you reckon he'd be posting that if he was mafia? Since I assume the mafia would be sitting back now and loving what WC has done. If I lynch him he's only one away from the hammer with a double voter, so I might just wait until the morning (will be back on inside the next 12 hours).

Where's Simon at as well? Like I said before I almost get the feel that he's trying to play under the radar, like I'm pretty sure most of did when he first played mafia and were trying not to give anything away.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

What do you mean by "it's not really prudent to post them now"? So you're happy just to have another no lynch?

Pretty much, although it's not that relevant if I'm happy with it or not as, like i said earlier, I can't see us agreeing to lynch anybody today.

As for it not being prudent I meant that more that it'd be better to wait until i've got a bit more to go on, likely the next day phase, but if it plays out a little more i could weigh in sooner.

Essentially I have a theory/idea, but i'd rather wait a little longer so i can add a little more evidence to back it up.

 

[CG123]

I see what you're saying, but we really want to drag the days out as long as possible and just see if something ends up happening. Tbh atm I'd rather take a punt on WC rather than go with a no lynch if it came down to that, just because that without anyone to investigate him are we ever going to know? I'm much happier to put him aside atm though and focus on a few of the others like we've started to do.

 

[thedon5]

Are we really not going to lynch anyone today?

At this rate it looks like no-one wants to go after WC really and I'm the only one that wants to go after RPHKR, even swirler seems hesitant about that.

Manly continues to do nothing, and he can't get away with it like WC can because he can understand English at least slightly well.

Simon has been staying under the radar very successfully seemingly under the excuse that he is a newer player. Seems like a classic case of someone posting more in the Mafia QT than in the game itself as he is usually quite active and posts a good amount.

Varun seems to know something which he won't convey, at this rate he'll be dead by tomorrow anyway by either the SK or the Mafia. Ste is in a similar case, seemingly having info but not sharing it. A sure fire way to get yourself killed. Though he seems a lot scummier than Varun. Not liking his recent posts at all.

This is a bit of a dead game, even though everyone here is pretty active. No-one seemingly wants to do anything.

We have 9 players left, with two Mafia and one SK. Chances are we could have 7 left tomorrow with the two Mafia and the SK so just four townies. A mislynch there and it's game over for the town. Even if we correctly pick out someone on day 3 there's a good chance we'll still lose after two no lynches where we gained very little information on both days. So we really have to uncover some possible Mafia members today and kill one of them or the SK to hopefully save our chances. This is why I am very keen to go after someone like RPHKR or ste. As a last resort we can lynch WC.

 

[CG123]

Just having a look at Simon's posts:

It was probably a bad idea to join a non-newbie game.

Can't make much out of the write-up. Second paragraph probably mentions two guys who know each other. Mason maybe...?

Doesn't really give us anything.

Lynch: WC

I don't see why he lynched Ste for no reason. Followed by a poor defense when accused of acting strange. He's probably trying to joke around so people don't think he's scum.

I don't think any of us are making you a target.

It's to put pressure on you, just as swirler and thedon said. Your quick lynch on Ste for no reason, and posts containing no value aren't helping. Try to contribute to the discussion at least.

Hard to tell whether he's mafia trying to get an easy lynch or just someone who's trying to find his feat in the game early on.

The first para indicates a tracker/cop and a roleblocker I think..



Judging by the write-ups of both days, I think we're dealing with a tracker/cop who's possibly a female. She probably was roleblocked last night, but had suspicion on the right person.

Two possible outcomes in the third and fourth paras:

1. A doctor correctly saved someone from being killed, and a serial killer took User.
2. User was a bodyguard who took the bullet for another person.

This was his first post today, and based on what I got out of the write-up he seems to have struggled a bit analysing it since User was the female cop who's now dead. Again not really sure if that's just inexperience.

And then his second and final post so far today:

I'm pretty sure that's a pressure lynch from Ste on me. I really don't get how "confusing him" earns me a lynch. I haven't kept that quiet - I've already posted by views on the write-up yesterday and the only thing I haven't done is post another time other than that.

Btw, I think the "larger than life" character may be the person who liked to make an entrance in the first write-up. There's a possibility the cop/tracker tracked a third party role and was role-blocked. She had the right suspicion, meaning it was a mafia or a serial killer. I'm sure there's a third party role given the third and fourth paras.

Says he hasn't kept quite when his activity has been pretty much the lowest in the game, and he still hasn't given his thoughts on anyone other than WC on day one.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Yep i'm genuinely a bit suspicious of simon now, his response to my joke lynch was pretty unnecessarily prickly, he clearly didn't have to defend himself about it.

I think as town if we are to lynch someone today (which i'm not particularly for or against as i see good reasons for both) I think our best bet would be to work together. It'd be easier to get a lynch if we agree to the idea of lynching anyone as a group and then pick someone to lynch; if we try to target people and argue to lynch them off from scratch we won't really get anywhere.

 

[thedon5]

I don't think write-up analysis is a sign of trying to bend the rules to fit your Mafia story, CG. I think it's genuine struggling, and if anything, people who analyse the write-up too much tend to use that as a method to make it seem as if they are active when they actually aren't.

If you want to team up, we've already got two lynches on RPHKR, he hasn't looked like a townie much at all. He would be a good one to try and question.

Ste I still can't help but be very suspicious of you. Though I feel the same about Simon, RPHKR and of course WC.

 

[CG123]

Are we really not going to lynch anyone today?

At this rate it looks like no-one wants to go after WC really and I'm the only one that wants to go after RPHKR, even swirler seems hesitant about that.

Manly continues to do nothing, and he can't get away with it like WC can because he can understand English at least slightly well.

Simon has been staying under the radar very successfully seemingly under the excuse that he is a newer player. Seems like a classic case of someone posting more in the Mafia QT than in the game itself as he is usually quite active and posts a good amount.

Varun seems to know something which he won't convey, at this rate he'll be dead by tomorrow anyway by either the SK or the Mafia. Ste is in a similar case, seemingly having info but not sharing it. A sure fire way to get yourself killed. Though he seems a lot scummier than Varun. Not liking his recent posts at all.

This is a bit of a dead game, even though everyone here is pretty active. No-one seemingly wants to do anything.

We have 9 players left, with two Mafia and one SK. Chances are we could have 7 left tomorrow with the two Mafia and the SK so just four townies. A mislynch there and it's game over for the town. Even if we correctly pick out someone on day 3 there's a good chance we'll still lose after two no lynches where we gained very little information on both days. So we really have to uncover some possible Mafia members today and kill one of them or the SK to hopefully save our chances. This is why I am very keen to go after someone like RPHKR or ste. As a last resort we can lynch WC.

The one thing that we can hope for is the serial killer is someone who's smart (i.e. not WC just randomly killing people off), and he realises that to win he probably has to get rid of a mafia before tomorrow night. Therefore hopefully he can get rid of a few of the more suspicious guys at night as well.

Re my play so far, I've definitely been a bit reluctant mainly because some people just aren't posting much, hence I can't really make-up a full picture of what's going on. Like I said above I'll give it to the morning our time, and by then hopefully all of the others have posted something. Atm for me it's probably only going to be one of WC, Simon, or RPHKR.

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I don't think write-up analysis is a sign of trying to bend the rules to fit your Mafia story, CG. I think it's genuine struggling, and if anything, people who analyse the write-up too much tend to use that as a method to make it seem as if they are active when they actually aren't.

That's pretty much what I said - "This was his first post today, and based on what I got out of the write-up he seems to have struggled a bit analysing it since User was the female cop who's now dead. Again not really sure if that's just inexperience."

And then that followed into his second post where again he posted about the write-up possibly like you say because he was trying to look like he was active.

Ste what do you think of RPHKR? I don't think you've posted anything on him.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Not sure, i was leaning towards town but that post where he quoted several posts of Swirler's was very odd.

he said let's look at swirler, took the time/effort to quote a lot of posts, then didn't really comment or go anywhere with it. It's very strange. Not going to go into what I think it means just yet as I still want to formulate my idea properly.

 

[thedon5]

Right yeah that makes sense. I have no idea what the strategy of an SK involves as I've never played it but let's hope he does us a favour.

Well there's a chance RPHKR will come on while we're asleep, we aren't lynching him off just yet we just want to see his defence. So you could very much put in a lynch for him.

Right, year fair enough. I struggled with that write-up too and I'm pretty bad at write-up analysis so I can see why he had the same trouble.

Ste hasn't really posted anything on anyone. That's why I'm suspicious of him.

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Didn't see ste's post. Yes I agree with you mate, and even before that post his play didn't at all seem town, he did very little other than his solid write-up analysis as usual.

 

[SiriusBlack]

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[thedon5]

You don't need to know playing styles mate, that's a myth IMO. I have next to no idea how most people in this game play, you just need to be able to pick out scummy behaviour from town behaviour.

Always post just so not too many people get suspicious of you.

You seem to be bandwagoning a bit too much, other than your first paragraph you have merely stated the same things others have stated. Again that could be down to your lack of experience in making your own conclusions, so we can excuse you for such things I guess, but at the same time we can't give you a free ride either.

 

[Manly]

Sorry chaps; been on the beers all day. I'll post properly tomorrow!

This is remarkably coherent.

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Right I suggest if we can't get a replacement for WC then we lynch him off now and take the risk that he's town, and hope that he's vanilla.

I am much the same as Ste, I'm a pisshead.

But seriously, I'm reluctant to post up more whilst everyone partakes in this weird brinkmanship.

I'll take the leap for the reason I said in my first line. I know I've been hot on WC all game but it's time to get rid as we can't replace him.

Lynch: WC

 

[barmyarmy]

Vote Count

World Champions - 1 (Manly)
Simon - 1 (Ste)
RPHKR - 3 (swirler, Simon, thedon)

With 9 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Let me know if I've missed anyone.