Ashes to Ashes Mafia - Endgame (SK win)

[ste_mc_efc]

"there must be another role-blocker or bodyguard and that's what stopped the kill. "

maybe there could be a bus-driver, but I doubt it. things can get very messy and there are a few greenish players. There hasn't been anything that suggests bus driver in any of the write-ups that i'm aware of.

 

[Manly]

Need everyone else to weigh in with what they've found now.

 

[Abhas]

I'm not too sure what to make of Varun's claim.. he has to be either the paranoid cop or the normal cop, because I'm the miller. I'm Ricky Ponting, the miller.. because although I've been one of the greatest players in world cricket, I've lost the ashes thrice, thus some factions seem to think I'm a villain.

Confused about another thing, wasn't user the cop? Surely we cannot have 2 cops in a 10 player game.

Varun might have just made it up, because as a mafia, he would very well know who all are town to frame them.

I can't understand what ste and manly are trying to imply here.. manly, who did you block tonight, and night one because that'll make things clearer why there wasn't a kill tonight.

 

[Manly]

Night 1 Simon which was successful > I figured he was the tracker after his analysis so that checks out.

Night 2 ste which was also successful.

I'll be honest I picked Simon as the team mate because he was the first post I clicked to quote and it was too much hassle to go back and unclick. I'm sure he's the tracker.

 

[CG123]

Finally some good activity, more to come when I read through everything again and try to make sense of it all.

Abhas, the_don, CG where have you disappeared?

You posted that at 5.52am our time, so me and Don had disappeared under the covers.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Finally some good activity, more to come when I read through everything again and try to make sense of it all.



You posted that at 5.52am our time, so me and Don had disappeared under the covers.

together?

 

[Manly]

lynch: CG & thedon

 

[CG123]

Haha, just read my post again now and can see how it can be taken...

 

[ste_mc_efc]

lynch: CG & thedon

now now we aren't in russia.

 

[CG123]

Okay, so starting with the Varun claim he's found that me and Abhas are guilty. Abhas has then claimed to be miller, which means one of two things, Varun's a paranoid cop which would kind of make sense with his character claim, or one of either him or Abhas is lying. What I can't understand with Varun is that is any of what he's saying been mentioned in the write-ups?

Simon's claimed to be the tracker, which is clearly mentioned in the write-ups so for the time being I think that clears him. Manly's roleblocker claim matches up with the write-ups as well, but he could still be a mafia roleblocker. Simon who did you track last night, I don't think you've said?

Ste's implying that Manly's roleblock last night was a failure, but Manly's said that he's got back a success, so I think pretty clearly one of them is lying. Manly's referred to a "larger than life character" in the night one write-up, I don't think that really helps us with what his alignment is though. Ste's posts seem to have not made a lot of sense, like he's been scrambling to put a defense together. He does make a valid point about the write-up though, and it does kind of contradict Manly's successful claim if he was too strong.

Can't really be called a paragraph
I just want to say, my suspicions are not based on my role. It is simply what I have deciphered from the game. It is very likely that RHPKR deduced something quite differently to what I am thinking it to be.
I don't want to give out too much, not at this stage atleast, but I'm sure you'll understand once it is revealed.

Re this, if you don't have a night role then surely now is as good a time as ever to post what you know based on what you have found? Or are you just waiting until everyone has posted etc.

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Also to those of you who know the series, could Gene Hunt have another role, like cult/individual? Wiki does say - "The character is portrayed as politically incorrect, brutal and corrupt" which adds up with a paranoid cop, but also from Wiki - "Hunt is often displayed to maintain a love?hate relationship with both Sam Tyler (John Simm) and Alex Drake (Keeley Hawes)" which means that he could be an individual.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Ste's implying that Manly's roleblock last night was a failure, but Manly's said that he's got back a success, so I think pretty clearly one of them is lying. Manly's referred to a "larger than life character" in the night one write-up, I don't think that really helps us with what his alignment is though. Ste's posts seem to have not made a lot of sense, like he's been scrambling to put a defense together. He does make a valid point about the write-up though, and it does kind of contradict Manly's successful claim if he was too strong.

It's not that simple. It could be that it was successful in the sense that nothing stopped him or interfered with the block. It doesn't necessarily mean that i was prevented from performing a night action. So we could both be right.

what specifically doesn't make sense?

 

[CG123]

It just seems strange that if Varun was mafia (and is lying now) why would he have come out and said what he said yesterday about me and drawn attention to himself. Unless he wanted to make it appear like he had a useful night role and get the doc to like protect him or something.

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It's not that simple. It could be that it was successful in the sense that nothing stopped him or interfered with the block. It doesn't necessarily mean that i was prevented from performing a night action. So we could both be right.

what specifically doesn't make sense?

The first part is just refering to the write-up and what you guys have said and to me it just doesn't add up if both of you are telling the truth. The write-up makes it out like the roleblock failed like you said, but then why would he get back success. I don't get what you mean in that he would get back success if nothing stopped him or interfered with the block, surely that's referring to just simply whether the block was successful or not. (I've never modded a game or anything though, so I'm not sure on the "rules" around what the mod replies are)

Just reading through them, to me it seems like you're not that sure yourself. It's hard to really explain. Like the whole game I'm not sure how much you've been adding. For the whole of yesterday you were talking about this theory you had, which yes in the end RHPKR dropped out, but you could've just posted it at the time as it wasn't any massive breakthrough.

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Btw re what you said before about having two cops, it's definitely possible because if Varun is a paranoid cop they're essentially useless, and one of the themes of the game is a show on cops.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

For the whole of yesterday you were talking about this theory you had, which yes in the end RHPKR dropped out, but you could've just posted it at the time as it wasn't any massive breakthrough.

Okay i guess i'll come clean about that theory now. I came home drunk and posted that i'd noted those two posts, but would explain later. When i woke up i couldn't remember what my thought process was, so i decided the best bet would be to string it a long a bit to see if either of them gave something away. Placing a FOS or lynch never really works to add pressure as generally they are pretty obvious, so something a little more subtle my catch them off guard. I planned to admit this start of day 3, but then when RHPKR dropped out i figured i could save face.

I guess my lynch early in day 3 on manly was projection on my part, calling him a drunk.

 

[CG123]

Haha, do I need to post that ad I posted before again?

 

[CremerCurrans]

I think these are all the claims + what we already know.

Simon - tracker
Varun - Cop/ Insane cop
Abhas - Ricky Ponting - Miller
Manly - Ian Botham - Town Drunk - Roleblocker
User2010 - Cop

Not sure who to believe out of Manly or Ste. Manly's claim seems to be pretty convenient, plus he's been going after the don, but suddenly goes after Ste and Simon. Simon you've left though.

Set has been all over the place, and talked about how his suspicions were just him being drunk one night, and it not working-out for him.

Simon's claim seems plausible + it fits in with the write-up

Varun's claim is the most interesting. If true one of Abhas & Callum appear to be mafia & the other miller. That or they are both town, which doesn't make sense because Abhas has claimed miller.

FOS: CG123, Manly, Ste

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*Ste not set.