Ashes to Ashes Mafia - Endgame (SK win)

My fellow townie, i may die because of Abby and Simon. If i do die, take out Abby or Simon the next night :mad They both are related to Mafia networks, i can assure you.

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lol

Okay, it seems like I really did misunderstand the write-up to some extent. The problem is that we have 4 townies dead. Since two people died last, we most probably have:

3 townies
2 mafia
1 third-party role

I'd wait for posts from Swirler and thedon before proceeding. At this moment, putting a lynch on WC. He really does have no idea what he's saying. Hoping he can contribute, somewhat.

Two mafias ........... You are right. You and Abby boy :mad
 
Night 3

The drinking buddies had fallen out in a terminal way. The drunk had never worried before about what tomorrow might bring but now he did. Unexpectedly he was made to scream prematurely.

You?d have thought with all those people watching someone would have seen what had happened.

Meanwhile the rockstar was all alone. It was ironic, he reflected, as he collapsed that he was the first person to suspect someone was tampering with the food.

When they woke 2 more townies failed to appear. Oh no, don?t say it?s true.

Quick analysis to see if there are any clues in the write-up.

Two deaths means there is a good chance there is an SK. But the write-up also suggests someone possibly getting poisoned? Yesterday some people suggested that someone was perhaps posioned last night. The write-up says the rockstar was poisoned. How does posion work? Would they get poisoned the night before and die the next night? I'm not sure if that would work with a Mafia killer as well.

Overall we are in really bad shape though, we were definitely in the lead yesterday now it's an uphill battle, three townies dead in the one night:noway.

Will give my opinions in a bit.
 
Really surprised to see that Ste is town, after Manly's role was proved to be right. I thought he must be a killing role.

Interesting that WC has suddenly become active, he has had a free ride most of this game; not sure whether he is actually interested in helping the town, or just suddenly becoming active to get the win.

Also suspicious of Varun, continues to be all over the place. Almost appears nervous like he's hiding something.

FOS: WC, Varun

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Quick analysis to see if there are any clues in the write-up.

Two deaths means there is a good chance there is an SK. But the write-up also suggests someone possibly getting poisoned? Yesterday some people suggested that someone was perhaps posioned last night. The write-up says the rockstar was poisoned. How does posion work? Would they get poisoned the night before and die the next night? I'm not sure if that would work with a Mafia killer as well.

Overall we are in really bad shape though, we were definitely in the lead yesterday now it's an uphill battle, three townies dead in the one night:noway.

Will give my opinions in a bit.

The write-up defiantly points out that there is a poisoner. Agree that the characters that are poisoned, seem to be delayed by one night.
 
All right so the following players are left.

Simon
Swirler
World Champions
Varun
Abhas

My general belief is that in terms of townies only Simon is pretty much 100% confirmed in my head. The way he has played he seems to have been making his own decisions and his own newbie mistakes, something you wouldn't see unless his partner was WC (which looks impossible now).

It's looking more and more likely that WC is actually Mafia so he should probably be lynched off today or tomorrow. With the write-up I'm not 100% sure there is an SK any more but if there was, I really doubt Colin would choose him to be the SK.

While RPHKR was very dodgy to me, Abhas has been playing very well and seems town to me IMO, though it is not confirmed to me since his claim is a bit of a scummy one and RPHKR's play was really poor. Still would be near the end of my list of people to lynch.

Varun made a solid claim but his play has never been completely solid this game. His claim could still very much be one made by a smart Mafia member too. The last "result" he got is an easy one to mention as ste has clearly died and he can seemingly verify himself to the town as a paranoid cop.

The last guy whom we still haven't heard from yet is swirler. We do remember how RPHKR seemed to have a case against him and while his gameplay was solid, it wasn't exactly flawless for me. He posted only twice in the whole of day 3, and take a look at what was in his final post...

I think these are all the claims + what we already know.

Simon - tracker
Varun - Cop/ Insane cop
Abhas - Ricky Ponting - Miller
Manly - Ian Botham - Town Drunk - Roleblocker
User2010 - Cop

Not sure who to believe out of Manly or Ste. Manly's claim seems to be pretty convenient, plus he's been going after the don, but suddenly goes after Ste and Simon. Simon you've left though.

Set has been all over the place, and talked about how his suspicions were just him being drunk one night, and it not working-out for him.

Simon's claim seems plausible + it fits in with the write-up

Varun's claim is the most interesting. If true one of Abhas & Callum appear to be mafia & the other miller. That or they are both town, which doesn't make sense because Abhas has claimed miller.

FOS: CG123, Manly, Ste

As the game goes on, it gets tougher and tougher for a Mafioso to keep posting as it is really easy for them to give something away. He was very active at the start when it was easy for him and wasn't at all on my radar. However when faced with suspicion he has never really fully defended himself if at all. Then you look at this post and he has FOSed all our killed townies which is quite scummy.

Good news is town has survived, what could have been a dangerous night. Looks like both killing roles might of targeted the same person, but were unsuccessful.

Really don't understand the write-up though. Can't seem to match any of the characters that I suspect are in the game, with whats written in the write-up.

Interested to see if Varun or the don know anything, given that they were possible targets last night.

This is his other post of day 3. Says very little and seems to just be dropping in so people are under the illusion that he is still very active.

What I think has happened is at the start he was playing a bit of a blinder but now he has fallen off a bit and the inconsistencies in his play yesterday seem quite obvious.

Another thing to look at is the thoughts of the dead. Manly was very suspicious of ste and WC. CG was suspicious of ste, Manly, WC and swirler. Ste seemed to have a theory.

Also keep in mind a mislynch means it is game over unless we have four townies or unless the Mafia actually kill the SK at night. So I think instead of hastily lynching WC, let's examine this from all angles.

However I think I've made my choice. Everyone in the game has been suspicious of WC so he's a prime target, though I'm not sure anyone other than Manly and maybe a couple of guys today were suspicious of him because they thought he was Mafia alone, I think the general oddities in his play are what makes him a big target. I'm not saying we shouldn't go after him, again I'm still not 100% sure about him but for now I think even if he is Mafia we should pick off his partner first then get him later.

For now though, I want to pursue this and am quite sure I'm right.

Lynch: swirler

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Really surprised to see that Ste is town, after Manly's role was proved to be right. I thought he must be a killing role.

Interesting that WC has suddenly become active, he has had a free ride most of this game; not sure whether he is actually interested in helping the town, or just suddenly becoming active to get the win.

Also suspicious of Varun, continues to be all over the place. Almost appears nervous like he's hiding something.

FOS: WC, Varun

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The write-up defiantly points out that there is a poisoner. Agree that the characters that are poisoned, seem to be delayed by one night.

Again seems like a bit of a post to pretend as if he is active but in the end he isn't really active.

I specifically mentioned the poisoner in the hope that he would try and confirm it as he was the one who brought it up, and to me it seems like he could be the SK who is trying to hide the fact that there is an SK.

For me this does it, and while a WC and swirler team is possible, I still feel Varun or Abhas could also be part of his team.
 
The last guy whom we still haven't heard from yet is swirler. We do remember how RPHKR seemed to have a case against him and while his gameplay was solid, it wasn't exactly flawless for me. He posted only twice in the whole of day 3, and take a look at what was in his final post...

Firstly, I would of liked to of been more active during day three, but was was quite busy with uni starting back, and I've been getting organised to start a new job. I've been active in previous days, and am contributing today as you can see.

As the game goes on, it gets tougher and tougher for a Mafioso to keep posting as it is really easy for them to give something away. He was very active at the start when it was easy for him and wasn't at all on my radar. However when faced with suspicion he has never really fully defended himself if at all. Then you look at this post and he has FOSed all our killed townies which is quite scummy.

again as I posted before. Plus all of what was said at that point in the game is relevant. Not sure there was anything that I had to defend?

This is his other post of day 3. Says very little and seems to just be dropping in so people are under the illusion that he is still very active.

What I think has happened is at the start he was playing a bit of a blinder but now he has fallen off a bit and the inconsistencies in his play yesterday seem quite obvious.


Another thing to look at is the thoughts of the dead. Manly was very suspicious of ste and WC. CG was suspicious of ste, Manly, WC and swirler. Ste seemed to have a theory.

Also keep in mind a mislynch means it is game over unless we have four townies or unless the Mafia actually kill the SK at night. So I think instead of hastily lynching WC, let's examine this from all angles.

However I think I've made my choice. Everyone in the game has been suspicious of WC so he's a prime target, though I'm not sure anyone other than Manly and maybe a couple of guys today were suspicious of him because they thought he was Mafia alone, I think the general oddities in his play are what makes him a big target. I'm not saying we shouldn't go after him, again I'm still not 100% sure about him but for now I think even if he is Mafia we should pick off his partner first then get him later.

For now though, I want to pursue this and am quite sure I'm right.

Lynch: swirler

Again same point. Plus most of the other people in the game had trouble reading that write-up, I was more interested in investigating later-on but didn't get the chance.

Again seems like a bit of a post to pretend as if he is active but in the end he isn't really active.

I specifically mentioned the poisoner in the hope that he would try and confirm it as he was the one who brought it up, and to me it seems like he could be the SK who is trying to hide the fact that there is an SK.

For me this does it, and while a WC and swirler team is possible, I still feel Varun or Abhas could also be part of his team.

The poisoner role has only stood-out over the last day, and today, which makes it relevant. Plus you asked a question so I added my thoughts. Not sure why I've suddenly become so suspicious just because I was busy for one day phase?
 
I feel you did have to defend yourself. Throughout the game people have been getting suspicious of you and each time you have ignored their suspicions where they seemingly asked for a reply from you to that suspicion.

The point about the poisoner is a little way of me trying to trap you, and it seems to have worked. Hence I wouldn't be surprised if you were the SK, a two man Mafia team with a poisoner and a Godfather would likely clear you if you are the SK.

Yeah good old Sulaiman always thanking random posts:p.

I want to see what the others have to say regarding this as well.
 
Okay, let's get it rollin'.

First, WC. His play has been at best mediocre, and he's been lynching people without any reasons. But at the same time, he's claimed faith healer which is essentially a doctor, and no one has counterclaimed. I have two questions to ask you, WC.

1. What's your character?
2. You have been gunning for me, and have lynched me twice in the previous days. And your reasons were mere 'I think he is mafia'. Can you come up with a more justified explanation? Maybe quote my posts where it struck you I'm mafia?

And if there's a doctor-esque role or a doctor, it's high time they claimed.

Remaining folks, I'm coming to you.
 
Coming to Simon, he's claimed tracker and nobody's counterclaimed as the tracker or watcher so I'm sure he is. In this case the only thing I'd want from him would be to reveal his Night 2 and Night 3 results?

And his Night 1 action implies Manly (Ian Botham) ---> larger than life character. I'm not sure why Ian Botham is larger than life so can anyone justify it?
 
Night 1 he was blocked trying to investigate Manly.

Night 2 he saw me around no-one.
 
Okay. Simon is confirmed town for me then. I'll post on Abhas, Swirler, thedon and the dead guys in a while.
 

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