Bangladesh tour of England, May-July 2010

Phew glad this is over, going to have to find some highlights to see Shahzad. Bumble was right, should have bet the national debt on England to win 20-0, I bet a very handsome amount for a small payout, just glad its over :)
 
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It’s not just the seamers, either; Shakib, who underbowls Mahmudullah and overbowls Abdur Razzak, is left to drag a lagging spin squadron along. Mahmudullah, in addition, probably merits a position a couple of places up the order, while Abdur Razzak is a handy one-day veteran but not quite suited to Test cricket.
There you go! Every 1 sees that. Riyad never bowled more then 15 overs. Rarely finishes 10 overs in ODI.
 
Lol, Ashraful continues to fail.
55 tests at an average of 22 for a specialist batsman, man it hurts to look at his stats.
 
Well England enforced the follow-on and Bangladesh capitulated embarrassingly poorly. They've now lost 59 of their 68 Tests, those claiming they deserve Test status haven't much of a case. They were losing when they started 10 years ago, they're still losing now 10 years later.

I did say there was a slim chance of winning by an innings if England enforced the follow-on, I thought they would fight better than they did. That isn't to say England didn't bowl well, it is just Bangladesh more or less obliged in anything and everything England tried - including an over of bouncers which got a 'gimme' wicket and in my opinon three bouncers in an over should be the limit, any more than that and no balls and warnings.

England will need to up their game to beat Australia in one Test let alone to retain the Ashes. One or two aussies might succumb to a bounce-out strategy, but I'm guessing the aussies will probably be 300/3 at the time. The bowlers will have a much harder time getting the ball to seam or swing, the batsmen won't get away with poor batting. To score just over 400 and win by an innings speaks volumes about the 'quality' of opposition, although England did have quite a bit of help with conditions.

England must pick Shazhad and Finn for the next series, no good chopping and changing again. We need to find a quick or two to take down under, Finn has taken 19 wickets at 23.42 but only against Bangladesh. Also Anderson looks a world beater in England, but away from home his average is 43.85 with the ball (compared to 29.86 in England) He did manage to average 45.17 against the aussies in 2009, better than the 82.60 he averaged down under in 06/07

JAMES ANDERSON

vs AUS/IND/SAF/SRI : 91 wkts @ 41.78 (SR 72.30, ER 3.46)
Home 56 wkts @ 38.34, Away 35 wkts @ 47.29

vs BAN/NZE/WIN/ZIM : 74 wkts @ 25.02 (SR 45.33, ER 3.31)
Home 57 wkts @ 21.53, Away 17 wkts @ 36.76
 
^great stuff Owzat. Although Finn and Shahzad will probably be the squad for the test series against pakistan, Only one or neither well get to play I think with Broad and maybe Bresnan coming back into the side.

How can you tell? Did you see his fingers under the ball? Shouldn't the decision be in favor of the batsmen?

I agree with you; that didn't look out. How can the ball bounce in the hands off the fingers. What i think happened was that the ball hit the fingernails either after or at the same time the ball hit the ground.
 
How can you tell? Did you see his fingers under the ball? Shouldn't the decision be in favor of the batsmen?
It's irrelevant. One camera perched 100 metres away does not have better depth perception than two pairs of eyes at 20 metres. If the umpires refer it, they should only be looking for an obvious contradiction.
 
Bangladesh lack balance in their side. They have not produced a single noteworthy bowlers ever since their test status. They won't win a single game if they keep on playing spinners in English conditions.
 
^great stuff Owzat. Although Finn and Shahzad will probably be the squad for the test series against pakistan, Only one or neither well get to play I think with Broad and maybe Bresnan coming back into the side.

I don't know why Broad is automatic choice, he has his moment with bat and ball but not often enough

SCJ BROAD

vs AUS/IND/SAF/SRI : 42 wkts @ 38.10
vs BAN/NZE/WIN : 41 wkts @ 34.17

Pretty ordinary against all sides, nothing I'd be looking to include against the better sides and 25.64 (bat) and 36.16 (bowl) is nothing to make him a shoe in for a Test all-rounder. A couple of 50s and a couple of 5wis against the aussies is about all you can make a case for him out of. Five 50s in 28 Tests is not that big a deal as an all-rounder who is nothing special with the ball. That puts more pressure on the other three bowlers, if only four are employed, or require there to be five which defeats their purpose

I agree with you; that didn't look out. How can the ball bounce in the hands off the fingers. What i think happened was that the ball hit the fingernails either after or at the same time the ball hit the ground.

I must say I thought there was enough doubt to give the batsman not out. Replays can't provide conclusive depth evidence, it looks to have bounced and you can only surmise off what

Billy Bowden should focus more on getting decisions right than looking a plank with his bent finger and looking to be centre of attention. The last LBW in the 1st innings was a poor decision, others looked out that weren't given and vice versa.
 
Or you can look into this way: Shahadat Hossain's batting that good, that his average is higher then of the premier batsmen of Bangladesh.

I didn't know that Tamim Iqbal was the leading the list of runscorers in this year. But he has played 3 Test matches more then the runner up in the list: Hashim Amla.
 
or you can look at it this way, its only 10 runs higher than Dale Steyn.

Ill have an extra bowler and take the 10 run hit :laugh
 
^^ Hey Ashraful is a good bowler

I didn't know that Tamim Iqbal was the leading the list of runscorers in this year. But he has played 3 Test matches more then the runner up in the list: Hashim Amla.
Tamim has been for a while. His SR is 2nd to Sehwag. Tamim needs another 140 something to get to 1000 runs from this year. He would be the 1st Bangladeshi to do that.. But we only have 2 more tests this year. And Tamim could be out for that, if he finally gets that surgery done..



Hashim Amla's avg better too.
 
I see England are going to "rest" Finn for the ODIs.

BBC Sport - Cricket - England rest Steven Finn for two ODI series

He's young, not sure he should be needing rest and if England want him to go to Australia then he needs a thorough examination because the aussies won't go easy on him. On the one hand I suppose they might want to hide him from the aussies in the ODIs, but on the other hand what better test of his bowling, coping with pressure etc and a chance to put one up the aussies.

I think I'd rather find out if he has the mettle to cause the aussies problems in ODIs than hide him from them. Even if that means he doesn't play all the Tests against Pakistan, who says it has to be played/rested for whole series?!?!?!? Sure you don't want to overwork him, but England seem very one dimensional in their thinking that he should not play at all in a series. There's no limit on squad size, even being in and around the squad will have benefits for him. I mean I wouldn't want him getting injured as a sub fielder, but surely he could play some of the games.

As for rest, the Test finished Sunday (06/06) and the next England match is 19/06 so near enough two weeks. I'm guessing Middlesex will want to play him, I'm guessing England won't want them to. A limit/control of 10 overs in a match surely isn't overwork?!?!? Rest him for the Bangladesh ODIs if you have to rest him at all, play him only on suitable pitches in the Test. Alternate him with Shazhad or something, especially as Broad is going to walk straight back in the side - which is fair enough in ODIs

SCJ Broad (59 ODIs)

338 runs @ 14.70 (HS 45no)
97 wkts @ 25.99 (BB 5/23, SR 30.33, ER 5.14)

I could split that by opponent, but New Zealand and West Indies are decent ODI sides so there isn't a lot of point. He's taken five wickets against Scotland and Bangladesh, not batted against either so those stats for ODIs are fine as are.

Such a shame he can't translate ODI prowess into Tests. That said I believe Flintoff was a top ODI bowler but not nearly as effective as a Test bowler, despite some people's hype.

A FLINTOFF

ODIs (141) : 3394 runs @ 32.02 (100 x3) & 169 wkts @ 24.38 (4wi x8)
Tests (79) : 3845 runs @ 31.78 (100 x5) & 226 wkts @ 32.79 (5wi x3)

Considering he would have had less opportunity to score 100s in ODIs, his rate of scoring them was considerably less disappointing. Same with wicket hauls, extremely disappointing in Tests, eight 5wis in Tests would have been a lot better for someone supposedly "world class". In ODIs you can't deny his figures are very good, those of a frontline bowler and very good ODI batsman. In Tests his figures are those of ordinary batsman and bowler, excuses not accepted. In cricket the stats don't lie, he got his bowling average down to under 34 after 46 Tests and went down by a further RUN in the next 33 Tests ie little improvement. Apart from a handful of really good series, his batting didn't live up to expectations either. In his last six Test series he scored 765 runs @ 26.38 and took 52 wkts @ 37.25. Other bowlers suffered injuries, or are we to believe that every other bowler's figures don't include injury, bad luck etc and Flintoff's do............................. :sarcasm

Broad may well be the next Flintoff, much expectation and not living up to it. I fear he may continue to be mediocre for England, not continue his development as fast and therefore be wasted as a potential all-rounder. His FC bowling average is nothing special, he needs to make a noise for Notts before everyone can make a noise about him
 

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