varunvgiri said:
Ganguly is better than Laxman and Sehwag... what did u smoke???
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How many innings to really remember(Please dont go counting his centuries) has Ganguly had in test cricket. The only ones I remember are on debut and that one in Australia) How many does Laxman and Sehwag does. The fact of the matter is that Ganguly was never a good Test player. If you remove his home record against newzealand and srilanka, the guy doesnt even average 35.
But I agree that he was a great ODI player. Majority of his great innings are in ODI cricket. He has hit quite a number of centuries and won matches for India. But in the end his slow batting( talking about recent times) has cost India some matches.So he doesnt deserve a place at all.
And you keep calling the selection committee names.... Do you realize why they are never gonna pick him again. Its because they never wanted to pick him for the Pakistan tour. They wanted to pick him if and only if he performed in the domestic competition. But that was not the case. The fact is Ganguly as usual played petty politics and forced the selectors to pick him. They did it but but not because of their own liking....
Once the political pressure weakened( I think it was just agrement between pawar and Ganguly for the tour to pakistan), they hated the guy for forcing that decision on them. So they decided not to pick him again. as he did not make anything that special on the tour to pak.
Instead you go on blaming chapell. Can you tell me why the selection committee would listen blindly and be prepared to come under a lot of flak just because the 'coach said so'. Lets face it, Chapell has no political lobby in India. Nobody will do such a thing because Chapell wanted it so. The coach has never had much of a say in team selection in India.
on what basis did More stated that they won't "pick Ganguly at all! no matter how good he plays".
That clearly tells you the role of politics/prejudice in BCCI and cricket in India.
Its true, he cannot replace any player in the current team, purely based on performance. Laxman played an important knock in Pakistan, but clearly struggled against swing.
The coach has a very significant say in the selection. It always does. Coach and the captain are the most important factors. It was very clear in the past articles, You want Chappel or Ganguly, and BCCI has, so far, went for Chappell.
Indeed, these selectors are a bunch of jokers.
You don't throw away talent and experience just like that. Gilchrist has been struggling, for a while now. Since the Ashes, he has never performed consistently. Same goes with McGrath, his performance in the test series against SA and the VB series are quite dismal (for his talent). Couple of composed innings in Tests and some good knocks in domestic level won't purchase Ganguly a test spot (or even just the consideration), then what will?
If he performs, he has to be back. I don't want, nobody wants a player in their team who doesn't perform well.
If Ganguly does perform, consistently, then More/co. should select him. His so called "arrogant attitude", according to several team mates has changed.
I like Chappell's way of handling this topic. One side, he barks at Ganguly, and at the other side he praises Tendulkar...just to maintain the equilibruim...smart thinking indeed! :cool:
If this is going to be the case in INdia, where even you do your job/work hard and yet fail to reap the reward, it won't be a surprise in the future if teh team fails consistently. We need to shed this prejudice and stinking politics for something better. Make the game fair for everyone.
To India-England series,
If Laxman stays in the 11, i'm sure Dravid will send him 1-down, we have seen this happen many times. It was good to see Tendulkar attacking...thats the way he plays, and I, now..get the feeling that he puts unnecessary burden on himself, especially when the team is down.
Sehwag will be hungry for runs, he will need to spend more time in the crease. I don't thinkt he bowling attack will be different this time...though.
You think Kiran More and team will make such a controversial move just because the 'coach said so'. He has his opinions there. But they are hardly binding. The selectors have their own opinions guided by their own reasons.
You think Kiran More and team will make such a controversial move just because the 'coach said so'. He has his opinions there. But they are hardly binding. The selectors have their own opinions guided by their own reasons.
what reasons? Ganguly had a fight with him sometime in the past? Ganguly has been Dalmiya's favourite? Pawar said so?
Or is it just "Ganguly's performance is nothing to brag about"
He has played two "test matches", scored 45+ in two innings and 35+ in two innings. Agreed. Not the score you expect of him, you want bigger one's. But it is not the legitimate reason.
If Chappell says past performances do not matter selection, then why do the keep saying that Ganguly has been in bad form? He hasn't and he showed that. He needs big scores.
Enough said about him. It is a situation we need to be ashamed of, an unfair treatment on players purely based on prejudice and personal reasons.