England in India
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sohum
Executive member
Very unlikely that this test match will have anything but a draw in store for us. Especially with the ICC regulation that a maximum of one hour of play can be made up per day. It's going into day 3, still cloudy, with the first innings still in progress. The only way this match will see a result is if both teams forfeit an innings. And I don't see that happening--there is too much pending on this match. However, it would be a positive move if the captains did decide to do this.
s2sschan
Club Cricketer
saisrini80 said:
The English Media has already awarded the Series to Flintoff. According to them England have already endured tremendous hardship namely hot weather, injuries to half the team, dead wickets etc. Flintoff is already a hero for leading a B-Team to a draw against India.
cricket_lover
International Cricketer
s2sschan said:
indeed, a spirited performance in the first test. But take nothing away from India though, sometimes in cricket, what you expect do not always happen.
hot weather? not really, especially in Mohali and last days in Nagpur.
dead wickets? that should help the English! no help for spin/pace and they still have the best(one of the best) pace attack in the world.
It isn't raining at the moment, and play should start in 25 mins. The forecast however predicts rain in the afternoon-evening-night, so the whole day. I hope it is wrong but you'll never know.
India would like to make early inroads in the English team, they'll rely on Kumble and Bhajji now.
Play has started....and Flintoff dropped! Dravid is not having the best of times in the slip cordon.
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varunvgiri
Club Cricketer
barmyarmy said:
Well, according to your standards, less than 1% wickets in world cricket will be due to good bowling.
A ball can be classified as good ball if it was good enough to make an error in the batsmans judgement. The Cook, Bell and Collingwood dismissals were due to errors in juging the ball. So they are good balls. Kumble decieved the batsman completely both times.
FishBowlMan said:
Reverse swing also depends on the balls condition. One side has to get roughed up pretty quickly while the other side is reasonably well preserved. In a dry pitch it is easier for this to happen.
varunvgiri
Club Cricketer
Dravid hasnt been using Chawla well at all. Not bowling him for a long time after his first spell would have dented his confidence which is showing in his bowling. Dravid has to remember that Chawla is just a 17 year old with very limited first class experience.
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This session belongs to England. They survived well. But Munaf made the most important breakthrough of Flintoff. His first two wickets in international wicket are caught and bowled's. He has a good reaction time for taking such catches! Its never easy for a bowler with the pace of Munaf to react quickly to catch the ball.
I thought Jones survived against Kumble. One ball which was a wrong'un from Kumble, I though it was going to hit leg stump. Hawk eye said height was a factor, but this was a low pitch with very less bounce. So I thought it was OUT!
If India can come back after lunch and restrict England to less than 350, satisfactory! If England cross 350, they will feel very happy!
Chawla did nothing wrong. He was hit by two hard hitters in international cricket, Pietersen and Flintoff. Sad for the boy on debut, but I expect him to learn from this experience.
One or two tests is enough for Chawla. He can then go back to domestic cricket and keep improving.
I thought Jones survived against Kumble. One ball which was a wrong'un from Kumble, I though it was going to hit leg stump. Hawk eye said height was a factor, but this was a low pitch with very less bounce. So I thought it was OUT!
If India can come back after lunch and restrict England to less than 350, satisfactory! If England cross 350, they will feel very happy!
varunvgiri said:
Chawla did nothing wrong. He was hit by two hard hitters in international cricket, Pietersen and Flintoff. Sad for the boy on debut, but I expect him to learn from this experience.
One or two tests is enough for Chawla. He can then go back to domestic cricket and keep improving.
varunvgiri
Club Cricketer
saisrini80 said:
I'm not saying that Chawla did anything wrong. Just saying that Dravid should have handled him much better. He should have been given more overs and that huge gap between his two spells might have effected his confidence.
FishBowlMan
Club Cricketer
All swing depends on the ball's condition - as you rightly say with a polished side and a rough side. The ball generally will not reverse swing as much if it is wet. With covered wickets, pitches these days are dry - certainly compared to the outfield - even some of the green tracks we have here in England. Both of the pitches that were available for this match would be considered as dry pitches. One may have been slightly greener than the other, but I don't believe this would affect the condition of the ball significantly. The ball will be damaged more by being hit hard, rolling on damp outfield and clattering into boundary boards etc.varunvgiri said:
Bear in mind that people like Waqar will produce significant reverse swing even on a damp, cold day in England in april on green pitches.
ronny_kingsley
Club Cricketer
alfa_beta said:
Say this to some Mr.Cullinan about Warne.Greatest example about moral victory
