England in India

Who will win this series?

  • India win both tests and ODIs

    Votes: 74 52.5%
  • India wins Tests, England wins ODIs

    Votes: 6 4.3%
  • England wins Tests, India wins ODIs

    Votes: 15 10.6%
  • Test Series Drawn, India wins ODIs

    Votes: 27 19.1%
  • Test Series Drawn, England wins ODIs

    Votes: 5 3.5%
  • England win both tests and ODIs

    Votes: 14 9.9%

  • Total voters
    141
aussie1st said:
Doesn't look like a nightwatchmen lol, hes doing Pathan's job. 6 off 7 not a bad start. The total is under 300 for the last day so its possible to win if India keep wickets in tack while scoring at a normal rate.
Actually Kumble has been in quite good form and is a very gutsy cricketer as well.
His scores in the series so far 58,33,DNB,32 .
Quite good,isn`t it .
And being a fighter that he is , he`ll not be an easy man to get out on the last day as well and it is good for India.
 
I agree.
Pathan and Kumble were going to be hard to get out anyway so might as well get them out up the order than down it.
India's day imo. At the start of the day an England victory was the favourite and now the draw is.
 
barmyarmy said:
I agree.
Pathan and Kumble were going to be hard to get out anyway so might as well get them out up the order than down it.
India's day imo. At the start of the day an England victory was the favourite and now the draw is.
I disagree.
If India do bat ou the day tomorrow, I expect them to get to 313.
If we do lose 2 wickets , mainly Rahul`s wicket early , England will just sneak through.
I just have a feeling that the local boy will do well tomorrow.

Also, If India feel that they have enough wickets in the bag , they have the quick scorers in Sehwag, Dhoni to follow.
 
Wow, this has been different from Day 3 but a superb final day in prospect. Mind you, all three results still quite possible though one result (Indian win) has the less no. of odds. Draw has the most odds with England win as second!

Good bowling by Bhajji! He looked the Bhajji of the old today! That catch was the turnaround! He probably displayed his frustration at the team for not having him bowl in the first session by running away from the team while celebrating!

Kumble, what a guy this man is!! AWESOME! He picks wickets in bucketfuls. Took a great catch which was very important of Pietersen. He is again looking in good nick while batting.

I think India are going to be positive tomorrow. I say this because of that 2 taken by Kumble in the final over of the day. It was an inside edge and only 2 more balls were left but Kumble chose to take the run and what more, he decided to go for a very close second run. That attitude means a lot! INDIA ARE GOING TO BE POSITIVE TOMORROW!

So Indian fans, dont lose hope of a sensational Indian win! It might happen. I dont say it will, but it might!

Edit : If India can win tomorrow, it will be a record breaking one! No team has chased more than 276 and won a test match on Indian soil!

aditya123 said:
I disagree.
If India do bat ou the day tomorrow, I expect them to get to 313.
If we do lose 2 wickets , mainly Rahul`s wicket early , England will just sneak through.
I just have a feeling that the local boy will do well tomorrow.

Also, If India feel that they have enough wickets in the bag , they have the quick scorers in Sehwag, Dhoni to follow.

Cant say. Seeing the pattern of scoring this test match, the teams have not gone above 3 runs an over. And India need 3.28 runs per over to win this test match. So if they think this pitch is tough for batting (mental pressure!), they might play the same way England played today which means they can bat out the day tomorrow and draw it!

barmyarmy said:
I agree.
Pathan and Kumble were going to be hard to get out anyway so might as well get them out up the order than down it.
India's day imo. At the start of the day an England victory was the favourite and now the draw is.

I agree. It has been India's day today but still due to that first innings lead, England still quite in front!

The thing is, we have all our frontline batsmen left. That gives a lot of hope for India! Even though some are not in form, we can expect that turnaround innings anytime!

aditya123 said:
Actually Kumble has been in quite good form and is a very gutsy cricketer as well.
His scores in the series so far 58,33,DNB,32 .
Quite good,isn`t it .
And being a fighter that he is , he`ll not be an easy man to get out on the last day as well and it is good for India.

Seeing the way Kumble played, he is not going to block it out fully tomorrow. He is going to punish the bad balls and has the technique to survive the good ones. And his form with the bat is awesome, so I expect him to contribute good runs tomorrow!

aussie1st said:
Doesn't look like a nightwatchmen lol, hes doing Pathan's job. 6 off 7 not a bad start. The total is under 300 for the last day so its possible to win if India keep wickets in tack while scoring at a normal rate.

Bad luck for Pathan. An innocous full toss which Pathan got the fatal inside edge on! He was positive too and its just ill luck that he was out!

Eddie said:
Sehwag's been off for ages, with a bad back. Not allowed to bat higher than no.7

Thats better for us. Sehwag is a specialist middle order batsmen. He is much better at any place other than opening. Though he has opened with success for India, he is expected to feel more comfortable at any other spot other than No.1 because he has played there before!
 
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Well done India, going to cock up yet again to a B team. Good one.
 
Sachin out of the ODI series.Not good news considering his recent ODI form.

Powar,Munaf Patel,Rao included .Good news for the youngsters but Harbhajan retained .WOuld have been nice if Kumble would have made it instead of him.
 
Sachin to miss the ODI series due to injury.
A huge setback for the great man. He looked in superb ODI form off late .
He even won us a game at Lahore scoring a 95 and was good with his medium pacers.

It supposedly is a shoulder injury and he will be out for 2 months at least.
Let us all support the great man and hope that he is back for the world cup 2007 and win it for us .

I hope Sachin gives a stunning reply to the Mumbai crowd who booed him and scores a big one before the surgery.
 
Potentially another good finish here. Could still go anyone's way. My prediction this time in order:

1: England will take the 9 wickets and square the series.
2: A draw.
3: India win the game.
4: A tie. Unlikely, but who knows?

As I said, this one's up for grabs. This is just my gut feeling. Unfortunately I am out of the country tomorrow, so will have to wait for the evening (GMT) to find out if I am right.
 
I found a very good article on Indian public`s expectation from Sachin :
Source : The Hindu

Trashing Tendulkar isn't cricket

Many sportslovers have lost the capacity to look at the larger picture and understand events in a historical perspective, writes Nirmal Shekar

MANY a connoisseur of cricket may have come to believe, on Sunday, that the unthinkable has happened when Sachin Tendulkar was booed all the way back to the pavilion at the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai by sections of the crowd. But, in truth, it was unimaginable only because we may have failed to scratch the surface of our fast-evolving cricketing culture, only because we have probably failed to see the fast-emerging darkness in the very soul of a once-great culture, which is dumbing down rather alarmingly.

Trashing Tendulkar for an uncharacteristic failure is much like attempting to dismantle the Taj because one of its walls has developed a minor crack over time. It is simply not done. And the shocking incident in Mumbai says more about where we ? as a nation of cricket-obsessed people ? are headed than about Tendulkar's own travails in the twilight of an unmatched career.

In the fullness of time, we will know whether the great man's nightmare-run with the bat is a temporary slump in form or, perhaps, the beginning of a much more serious career crisis. But, right now, this issue is less relevant than the fact that people who may have never had the good fortune to let their spirits soar to exalted levels with each Tendulkar symphony chose to greet his first innings departure with catcalls and booes to leave a scar on the not-so-pretty face of the game in India.

If the poignancy of that dark moment on Sunday afternoon went way beyond sport, then it was also a quick reminder that as sportslovers quite a few of us have now become ``here and now'' people in the worst possible connotation that term can take on.

For, if the ones that booed the little maestro had had the good sense to look beyond the man's momentary struggles at the crease to the grand monument he has left behind, his dismissal might have brought a sort of heaviness to their hearts and tied up their tongues in sheer disbelief.

Then again, for many sportslovers, that is precisely the problem today ? they have lost the capacity to appreciate history, to look at the larger picture, to go beyond the most recent stimuli and understand events in a historical perspective.

Worshippers of instant celebrity

Many of us, thanks to the influences of the age in which we live, have become worshippers of instant celebrity. The non-stop dross coming at us from all directions has forced us to wilfully conclude that today's success is the greatest success ever achieved, that today's seat-edge thriller is the greatest game ever played, that today's superstar is the greatest megastar of all times.

When our sporting culture has suffered this sort of corruption, when its essential core has been eroded by these giant new waves, it is hardly surprising that a great icon such as Tendulkar should himself become a victim in his own backyard.

The point is, Tendulkar never promised any of us a masterly century in every innings that he might get to play. We were the ones who set that impossible goal for the little man. That he has failed to meet that unrealistic goal is no sheen off his greatness; it merely throws light on our own foolishness.

At no point in his remarkable career did Tendulkar tell us that he was immortal; we turned him into a sort of superhuman phenomenon ? where none exists in the known world ? because we were perhaps ashamed of our own all too human limitations and wanted someone not-quite-like-us to look up to.

Never in the last 16 years that he has been dominating our sporting consciousness has Tendulkar ever hinted that he was invincible; we turned him into an invincible champion because we felt the need to bolster our own sense of everyday reality with something supernatural.

Harsh reality

The harsh reality of the capricious business of sport is this: every champion that has ever drawn breath, every champion as yet unborn, can be sure of one thing ? some day, he will fail. The world of sport is yet to toast a truly invincible athlete.

But, then, in dealing with Tendulkar's failure ? or any issue of this sort ? it is very easy to find the answer we want; much, much more difficult to find the answer that matches the truth.

Of course, as passionate followers of the game, we are entitled to our own opinions. If some of us believe that the great man may not deserve a place in the team if he continues to fail, that's fair enough. Nobody owns a place in the Indian cricket team ? not even Tendulkar.

But what is not fair ? and will never be ? is to stoop down to the sort of mindless pettiness that triggered the Mumbai booing on Sunday.
 
ronny_kingsley said:
Sachin out of the ODI series.Not good news considering his recent ODI form.

Powar,Munaf Patel,Rao included .Good news for the youngsters but Harbhajan retained .WOuld have been nice if Kumble would have made it instead of him.

Harbhajan looked his part today. He bowled a fine spell. He got bounce, turn and troubled the batsmen and looked his old self for this spell at least. And his ODI performance against Sri lanka and South Africa which were his last ODI performances have not been those that can act against his selection!

aditya123 said:
Sachin to miss the ODI series due to injury.
A huge setback for the great man. He looked in superb ODI form off late .
He even won us a game at Lahore scoring a 95 and was good with his medium pacers.

It supposedly is a shoulder injury and he will be out for 2 months at least.
Let us all support the great man and hope that he is back for the world cup 2007 and win it for us .

I hope Sachin gives a stunning reply to the Mumbai crowd who booed him and scores a big one before the surgery.

What? What? What?

I just cant believe this. The injury doesnt seem serious rite? If it is, will Tendulkar bat tomorrow? He looked good fielding today and made a run out also. I cant believe that he is having a shoulder problem. We have Sehwag and Tendulkar with physical problems. Hope both can come to bat tomorrow and both can contribute to India's push for an unlikely win!

Well he might have to miss out on the West Indies tour then. Even though the test matches start after the ODI's from June 2nd, I dont think Tendulkar will be rushed into action. He will get back to the side from the triangular series in Sri lanka which also features South Africa. Another painstaking two months wait for his fans to see him come back from injury. But I hope this injury works to the welfare of his career! May be this injury is not letting him play to his full potential?
 
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saisrini80 said:
What? What? What?

I just cant believe this. The injury doesnt seem serious rite? If it is, will Tendulkar bat tomorrow? He looked good fielding today and made a run out also. I cant believe that he is having a shoulder problem. We have Sehwag and Tendulkar with physical problems. Hope both can come to bat tomorrow and both can contribute to India's push for an unlikely win!
The team consultant doctor Dr.Anant Joshi says that the injury will in no way affect his batting but his throwing will be seriously affected .
It seems that he has been carrying this injury from the start of the Sri Lanka series .
It definitely is`nt serious enough. He will bat tomorrow,if necessary .
Why was he then in the outfield all these months is another question to be asked. He used to be a good slip filder in his early days.
 
aditya123 said:
The team consultant doctor Dr.Anant Joshi says that the injury will in no way affect his batting but his throwing will be seriously affected .
It seems that he has been carrying this injury from the start of the Sri Lanka series .
It definitely is`nt serious enough. He will bat tomorrow,if necessary .
Why was he then in the outfield all these months is another question to be asked. He used to be a good slip filder in his early days.

How come? I think it might have had some effect on his batting. He must have been knowing that throwing with that shoulder is a problem and its tough doing it. And when you bat, you also use your shoulder. So mentally he might have gone through thoughts whether this injury might aggravate if he plays freely, etc. Because he hasnt looked free and open even after the tennis elbow operation!

Lots of debate now gonna come through! Like "Why Tendulkar risked this injury and played from the Sri lanka series", "Why did he have to rush his comeback", "Did he rush his comeback in fear of losing his place in the side", etc etc etc
 
saisrini80 said:
How come? I think it might have had some effect on his batting. He must have been knowing that throwing with that shoulder is a problem and its tough doing it. And when you bat, you also use your shoulder. So mentally he might have gone through thoughts whether this injury might aggravate if he plays freely, etc. Because he hasnt looked free and open even after the tennis elbow operation!

Lots of debate now gonna come through! Like "Why Tendulkar risked this injury and played from the Sri lanka series", "Why did he have to rush his comeback", "Did he rush his comeback in fear of losing his place in the side", etc etc etc


Well..., he didnt rush back as his tennis elbow seems to have completely healed. But yes, he seems to have a mental block somewhere. He is not his confident self of the past years. He has a become a very poor starter which is evidence of his severe lack of confidence. I think he has started to doubt his own ability now, and is playing too cautiously for his own good. Now with his confidence down, the pressure is beginning to get to him big time. Some time with a sports psychologist may do him a lot of good.
 
I think England are still on top...tommorow morning will be crucial for both teams...If England get some early wickets they can bowl india out but if india bat out the morning session, they will be on top...
 
Game on for sure.
The key men for me would be Kumble and Tendulkar (BEWARE Of the injured batsman).If Kumble can stay for an hour and a half, India would then be confident of getting home.
We could see an Ashes like thriller.
Kudos to the Wankhede picth curator.
 

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