England National football team thread

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He should crawl off a cliff and die now. What a selfish, santimonious, female orifice.

Position untenable because you're finally being made to actually answer for something you've done? Or jumping before you're pushed?

Beckham was the prime example of someone who regardless, always made himself available for his country. He accepted being dropped with diginity, and made himself an option if needed. Terry is just a pillock quitting because everything in his world is about him.

Damn puddle that was cold man!

 

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England boss Roy Hodgson to decide whether to recall Rio Ferdinand - ESPNFC

John Terry's exit may be moment England begin to forge their future | Dominic Fifield | Football | The Guardian

Ok presuming Ferdinand doesn't have bad blood too with Ash Cole, who thinks that Rio should be recalled to the England team to lend crucial experience to the defence. Or they should look to the youth/others like Caulker, Shawcross, Smalling, Jones, Dawson to support current regulars like Lescott, Jagielka, Cahill.

 

[Bevab]

It would be better to build for the future and call-up guys like Caulker, Shawcross, Jones, Smalling etc.

 

[spooony]

Shawcross is a butcher. I would love to see him and Keane go for a 50/50 ball or Kevin Muscat.

I loved Kevin Muscat. He was the answer to a good dribbler. Running at him you had a choice of taking him on and ending your career or pass the ball. He is a walking Anti Messi and ROnaldo device haha

 

[Bevab]

He's a hard tackler and is good in the air. Nothing wrong in trying him, he could be the answer to dribblers like Muscat.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

He should crawl off a cliff and die now. What a selfish, santimonious, female orifice.

Position untenable because you're finally being made to actually answer for something you've done? Or jumping before you're pushed?

Beckham was the prime example of someone who regardless, always made himself available for his country. He accepted being dropped with diginity, and made himself an option if needed. Terry is just a pillock quitting because everything in his world is about him.

Now he's quit, I can dislike him all the time as he's now only a Chelsea player.

 

[puddleduck]

Caulker looks absolute class. Has taken to every level so far. Looked excellent for Team GB, was excellent for Swansea and already been solid for Spurs.

 

[War]

Caulker looks absolute class. Has taken to every level so far. Looked excellent for Team GB, was excellent for Swansea and already been solid for Spurs.

Spurs' Steffen Freund backs Steven Caulker to replace John Terry - ESPNFC

Ye well Spur's assistance coach clearly agrees and i was certainly impressed with him, when he came on in the second half over the weekend.

With Walker, Vertongen, Assou-Ekkoto almost certain to start when fit. Do you really think that ABV would be willing to start Caulker over Gallas and Kaboul yet though?

 

[puddleduck]

Kaboul and Vertonghen is almost certainly our best pairing at the moment, but Kaboul is out for a while. Gallas was past it 3 years ago, I have literally no idea why AVB is keeping him this year. He's a complete liability. The only interesting part about him playing for Spurs, is trying to guess when he'll start limping during any game.

I would actually like to see Jan at left back with Caulker and Kaboul in the centre. Vertonghen has looked like he could be excellent already, Kaboul has matured into a fine player and Caulker is the potential future of our defence. For now with Kaboul out, I'm all for Caulker and Vertonghen.

Assou can come back in at left-back, but he's going to need to improve on his sloppy form during the backend of last season. Up until then he had been pretty consistent for a year and half, but his old problems of switching off and poor end product were creeping back in.

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To add in regards to Caulker, there's a reason Swansea were so excellent defensively last year with him playing. You'd barely have known he was so young. In the Olympics for team GB he looked pretty inpenetrable too.

 

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/gareth-southgate-england-suffer-as-the-big-clubs-hold-all-the-power-8180784.html[/URL

Such stories although its not surprising to all who are aware of the landscape of English football, always gets me sick.

[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19678859"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19678859

Good luck to Mr Ashworth here, he will certainly need that in abundance for such a position.

 

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/gareth-southgate-england-suffer-as-the-big-clubs-hold-all-the-power-8180784.html
Such stories although its not surprising to all who are aware of the landscape of English football, always gets me sick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19678859

Good luck to Mr Ashworth here, he will certainly need that in abundance for such a position.

 

[puddleduck]

Gallas was past it 3 years ago, I have literally no idea why AVB is keeping him this year. He's a complete liability. The only interesting part about him playing for Spurs, is trying to guess when he'll start limping during any game.

The answer this week was 36 minutes

 

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The answer this week was 36 minutes

Haha ye. It was great to see Caulker start, hopefully that becomes the norm.

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Rio Ferdinand still has the power but is cast out by Roy Hodgson's England | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Observer

From the inception when Hodgson made that comment about "I'm leaving Ferdinand out of the EURO's for football reasons" - i never felt that was Roy talking.

That always came across to me as a message that the English FA public relations team gave him to say. Along with a bit of convincing from Ferguson who i believe deep down doesn't want Ferdinand to play for England anymore, despite him saying in the media that he won't try to influence Rio's decision.

So i sympathize with Hodgson on this one, since i reckon he certainly wants to pick Ferdinand.

 

[Lee1981]

Ferdinand is absolute crap now, his decline of ability has been huge, his biggest asset was his pace which as Bale showed is no longer their

Terry is very slow yes but still offers loads more than Rio,

10 years ago at 2002 world cup I had never seen a defender play like him before but now it feels such a long long time ago.!

 

[War]

Ferdinand is absolute crap now, his decline of ability has been huge, his biggest asset was his pace which as Bale showed is no longer their

Terry is very slow yes but still offers loads more than Rio,

10 years ago at 2002 world cup I had never seen a defender play like him before but now it feels such a long long time ago.!

No doubt Ferdinand has lost the pace which made his very special at his peak, but he is more solid than Terry.

Ferdinand being exposed by Bale (same thing with Vertongen with the first goal) in the game yesterday had a lot to do with United slow mid-field which included two guys near 40 failing to close him down. In such a situation even Vidic or Kompany would have struggled to stop Bale.

Lets not forget how excellent Ferdinand was last week dealing with Suarez, when United's mid-field didn't gave up so much atrocious space, although Pool was dominating them up until Shelvey got red carded.

In a normal situation when a defence gets proper mid-field protection, Ferdinand's all round game has far more pace, presence, ability to deal with pacy strikers and technical ability to bring the ball out from defence than JT.