England Tour Of Bangladesh 2010

Reasonable pace of batting, but quite frankly England may well have had enough runs at the end of the Bangladesh innings. I guess no harm in playing safe with our bowling attack, but I still feel the follow-on should have been enforced. Against South Africa, India or Australia I'd say bat again, anyone else and having bowled them out for around half our total should be enough to enforce the follow-on.

Should give ourselves more than five sessions to bowl the Bangles out, I think it might take only 3-4 and we may well win by more runs than we notch up 2nd innings. Still it gives Cook time to play "being captain", I'd be interested to know what Strauss and other Test captains would have done.


Why would I care about countries that aren't good enough to be playing test cricket?

nuff said, thanks for making my point while completely missing the overall point. No wonder cricket is stuck in C20 :clap
 
KP looking in ominous form now. This is the KP I love watching, so much better to watch with form under his belt. Time to smack a quick-fire century Kev!
 
How can anyone actually like Kevin Pietersen?

That said, I do feel sorry for him now that he has become depressed as a result of realising that most people think he is an idiot.

Good batsman though.
 
How can anyone actually like Kevin Pietersen?

That said, I do feel sorry for him now that he has become depressed as a result of realising that most people think he is an idiot.

Good batsman though.

most people like you dislike him because other than recently he has been the stand out batsmen who people will pay to watch and people like you are just jealous cause of his talent and self confidence, how very sad you are,
 
most people like you dislike him because other than recently he has been the stand out batsmen who people will pay to watch and people like you are just jealous cause of his talent and self confidence, how very sad you are,

LOL :D yep yep that's exactly what it is!
 
I only stayed up to watch Finn bowl & well he was basically what i've seen in county cricket before. Has goood solid action with the potential to bowl faster, he has to add a few pounds though. Definately one for the future.

But looking ahead to the Ashes unless he has spectacular domestic season he shouldn't tour. I definately say Boyd Rankin (if he decides to play for ENG) is the more finished article for test cricket for ENG, while a fit Tremlett should be ahead of Finn.

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What a terrible decision to not enforce the follow-on :facepalm

Na in that heat England where right not to enforce the follow-on. If the partnership between Rahim & Islam was stopped earlier then follow-on could have employed.
 
Promotion and relegation is the lifeblood of football, for the sides outside the top flights where there is more to football than winning and of course more than just the old firm, manchester, Merseyside and north london derbies - not to mention Liverpool vs Man Utd. You've considered everybody but the non-Test nations in your analysis, they get mentioned only in the tiers. How does the Ashes improve cricket in Ireland, Kenya, Canada, Scotland, Bermuda etc? Do you think that their participation in the World Cup hasn't improved them and the popularity of the sport in their countries?!? They will inevitably gain more mercenaries, but have become higher profile and if only ICC would pull their heads out their Rses then they would look at more ways to get these teams involved in ALL cricket - if only they'd done it a lot sooner. 1992 there were only Test countries, I think since then there have been 3 or 5 non-Test nations at the World Cup and one or two have disappeared off the radar. Cricket needs to be a worldwide sport, not just as it is now seen as a game for the upper classes, "elitist" and so wrapped up in "the Ashes" and series against buddies that it overlooks what makes up a greater percentage of the globe.


this is where the tier system falls down. Yes, relegation and promotion is very much part of the life blood of football, but at club level. If Wolves get promoted the financial windfall allows them to strengthen their team, if they stay up they can make further plans to strengthen their team. If bangladesh get to tier one by beating zimbabwe, kenya and ireland for example, they can't just revamp their pace attack with guys on the fringes of aussie squad and their batting with guys from the indian squad.

Show me one team that got promoted and managed to make significant progress without a huge transfer campaign. Chelsea are only one of the big 4 because they spent billions, Leeds went bankrupt and now find themselves 2 divisions down. These methods of progress cannot be used to similarly advance test cricket.

furthermore, in football the big players remain the same, there is more of them but this is down to the participation levels in football, it's the premier sport in dozens and dozens of countriest (virtually all of europe and south america, and a few others). You are being compleletly naive if you think cricket will command that participation level, most of europe don't even know what cricket is, all of the americas is the same barring a handful of carribean nations.

I am not english, despite you claiming I was, and in respect to my ashes comment, you may well be right, maybe we should sacrifice things like that for progress. My point is that I'm from scotland, and cricket is a minority sport here, most people here don't even know who tendulkar is. There is simply no way that will change much, maybe in 100 years who knows, but 10? 20? even 30 would be pushing it. Yet we are what, 14th in the rankings? (to compare football we are 45th, and in football we have a fully professional league and can compete on a decent level with every team above us, in cricket we would not be able to beat australia 1 time out of 1000 in a test)

That is how cricket is, low participation outside it's core. I'm afraid we do have to pay most mind to those that actually contribute to the game and in that respect, I think a system that is organised with non-test teams in mind, and could possibly harm current test teams is perhaps way too idealistic.
 
I must admit, I'm not really a big fan of this tier system idea. I like anyone likes to watch a close even faught battle, but playing the West Indies and Bangladesh only would kill test cricket in New Zealand (nobody is going to come out and watch it). However, given that I expect New Zealand to struggle for a couple of years replacing a few players maybe it will help save us some embarrassment.

All this always comes back to the fact that the ICC is not a proper governing body.

Yes the Windies & Pakistan are playing average cricket but no way should they be relegated to a second tier. The strong & traditional top 8 nations have to remain in tests. Pakistan just won the T20 WC & with countries not likely to tour Pakistan for a longgg time for obvious reasons. A proper ICC needs to step up to aid Pakistan in this time.

Then we have the windies. Also good enough to win the 2004 Champions trophy & still have alot of talented young players that would give them a strong team once fit. But they lack a strong cricket academy to fine tune these skilled lpayers, which would compensate for their poor domestic structure.= is missing. Lara was making this pint the other day:

Lara calls for better infrastructure in West Indies | West Indies Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

But none of these things can be done since the ICC is broken & India (BCCI) are the defacto leaders of world cricket. Thye busy trying to ruin cricket with the overdose of T20 & the broken ICC is wasting time trying to get USA & China into cricket :doh:facepalm
 
The way Naeem and Rahim was batting, that was the only way to get them out. Run out. But it was very stupid of them. How can you give all away just for 1 run. At least Rahim should batted on, superman catch killed him. They batted for 40 overs, which is good. Rest of the team batted for 50 overs, and thats crap. Their innings really helped to send Eng batting again. Its really humid out there in Gong.
 
It will be interesting to see what target england set (if they do stay in long enough to declare)

5 sessions is almost too long for a 4 man attack composed of injuries and inexperience and one spinner. if BD still had proper batsman in after lunch tomorrow they'd be in trouble with the attack flagging and target getting smaller.

obviously that wouldn't happen, but just because it's BD doesn't mean you should play poor tactical cricket.
 
Poor batting performance from England. I suppose one reason to not enforce the follow-on was because they wanted to give Carberry and Trott another go.

I thought Finn bowled really well today. Bangladesh didn't play well enough to get out to him I thought!
He looks like he can reverse swing the ball, as well as bowl a heavy ball.
 
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I thought Finn bowled really well today. Bangladesh didn't play well enough to get out to him I thought!
He looks like he can reverse swing the ball, as well as bowl a heavy ball.
he bowled to tail enders in day 2.... check day 1
 

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