Yeah I reckon Rahim should give up the gloves and become a top five batsmen. Potential wise he's good enough to average 35+ and bat at three, four or five. He's keeping is below standard it must be said, far too many drops at crucial times.
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Yeah I reckon Rahim should give up the gloves and become a top five batsmen. Potential wise he's good enough to average 35+ and bat at three, four or five. He's keeping is below standard it must be said, far too many drops at crucial times.
Rahim dropped 7 catches in last (1 T20, 6 ODI, 2 Test) 9 matches. 5 of them had very significant effects.
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I have a bad feeling about the 2nd test. After a courageous performance the always flunk out
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I have a bad feeling about the 2nd test. After a courageous performance the always flunk out
Bangladesh are doing ok, good to see there is now debate about the ideal composition of their team, in the past they were flat out finding 6 batsman who could average over 20, and 4 bowlers who could average under 60.
I'm impressed with Mahmadullah and Naeem Islam, they have been scoring quick runs in ODIs, and consistently, add their useful bowling and you have a couple of handy cricketers.
I'm impressed with Mahmadullah and Naeem Islam, they have been scoring quick runs in ODIs, and consistently, add their useful bowling and you have a couple of handy cricketers.
I think it was a good move to promote Mahmudullah above Shakib. His form with the bat has been less than impressive. Mushfiqur has taken huge strides with his batting. I wouldn't mind him giving up the gloves and concentrating on his batting. Saves us from his constant yapping when he keeps. Not being entirely familiar with Bangladeshi cricket, who else could step in to keep?
^^ There was that other guy who went to ICL. Dhiman Ghosh. He is 10x better keeper than Rahim, but not so good with the bat. Just a slogger. And the other reserved wk, i know nothing about him. He played in the wu match v Eng XI.
Naeem kinda shocked me by batting over 2 hrs in 1st innings. He looked to stay there even longer, too bad he got run out. I always thought he was just a slogger. Hope he keeps it up. Thats where Mahmudullah started, I hope Naeem can fill in for him, now that he got promoted.
Naeem kinda shocked me by batting over 2 hrs in 1st innings. He looked to stay there even longer, too bad he got run out. I always thought he was just a slogger. Hope he keeps it up. Thats where Mahmudullah started, I hope Naeem can fill in for him, now that he got promoted.
Gosh, lol.
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His batting isn't that bad either, just give some opportunities he will do as good as Rahim is doing with the bat. He got back to back fifties in his last FC game and his keeping is excellent, I have never seen him fumble/drop any catch in the ODIs he's played so far.
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His batting isn't that bad either, just give some opportunities he will do as good as Rahim is doing with the bat. He got back to back fifties in his last FC game and his keeping is excellent, I have never seen him fumble/drop any catch in the ODIs he's played so far.
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But how could you look "long term" with all those sudden injury woes?. As i said he only played clearly because of all those who where injured.
No-one is suggesting he be picked for the Ashes tour or whatever.
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Plunkett should be dumped with Pattinson since both are a joke. I dont think Plunkett has improved one bit & i never supported his recall.
Yes England do tend to be a wild with their selections. But as i said with the sudden injury woes, Bresnan had to play.
Plus i would think Finn was definately selected with a "long-term" plan in mind. Which is looking to see if we could find a pacy young tall-bowler who could have some use in the Ashes next summer.
Harmo, Mahmood & Batty will never play test again. We can both rest assured about that.
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Not all things work to plan. Sometimes selectors work on hunces, some fail - some are a success.
Ok i think they are talking about picking Jahurul Islam. Hope he is a good keeper. No more fumbles please ..
and he is the reserved WK, not the other guy from WU match i mentioned about...
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wait, he is a part time keeper as well!! its like having 2 Musfiq :doh
just go with Saghir Hossain
The ECB should have a "squad", a group of 25-30 names which they intend to use for the next 3-5 years. There should be 10-12 bowlers in that list, the problem is the ECB picks "flavour of the month", or what appears almost random (Khan/Pattinson) and no surprise they don't succeed in the one Test before the players they filled in for return. Are Khan and Pattinson in the ECB long-term plans? I doubt it, so why pick them? When I say long-term, I mean a player who has already shown ability in the counties and who they can foresee playing in five years time if they progress, become more consistent or just by pecking order.
You are being very hard on Plunkett, he can bat and bowl while Pattinson was almost what I'd call a wildcard pick, not a player standing out in the county championship and any blindman could see his selection was doomed to be a one Test wonder. Plunkett may not have set the Test scene alight, but he has potential.
He didn't have to be selected let alone play
Picked too early, maybe long-term in the longer-term, but we start picking teenagers they will go the way of past players picked too young, discarded and forgotten about for 5-10 years
Finn's selection was more crystal balls peering into the future, placing all your hopes in someone who's too young to carry those hopes on his shoulders and at the same time jeopardising his future. He needs a season or two before he's likely to be ready for Test cricket, this wasn't quite in at the deep end, but he didn't swim (in the 'sink or swim' sense), he more splashed about and stayed afloat just about. Wait till his waterwings can be taken off, or we'll have another Read, Sidebottom, Foster etc
The Guiness ad may have a point it's product doesn't but the ECB could heed - the best things come to those who WAIT. Finn is a bottle of wine that's from grapes been picked before they are ripe, quickly crushed and bottled before they have time to ferment ie he's effectively a grape juice in a wine bottle, not ready and not nearly what you need (wine not grape juice)
You might believe that, I can't. I didn't think Batty would ever play again, then up he pops out of the blue in West Indies. Harmison should never play again, he got a recall because the selectors seem to think he's some "great" from the past and he's the answer to our distress calls, dusts off his cape and flies to wherever he's needed without a plane. Mahmood is another that will always do enough in county cricket that the selectors will think he may be an answer, never helped by their obsession with 'types', height, bounce etc
Unfortunately their "hunches" are somewhat random, without much foundation and too often prove wrong. When did a player picked with little expectation of success actually succeed? And if there is one, I can't think of one that hadn't made a case in the counties, then how long was their success?
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I agree re Swann, certainly from this attack. I'm still waiting for Broad to "arrive" as a bowler. His average is 35.75, only ONCE in 10 series has he averaged under 30 and that was 25 against the West Indies, and his batting average of 26.34 isn't going to carry a very ordinary bowling average.
I'm not a big fan of Mahmood, another player picked on type. He did ok against Sri Lanka on debut (series), produced Broad's career average against Pakistan but you must have been watching a different Broad to me because he was ordinary indeed down under last time. If he was in contention then SURELY he would be playing here instead of Finn? Not that I think the ECB are that forward thinking, I mean NO Test bowling between Ashes 06/07 and then recalled for Ashes 10/11 would be inexplicably stupid. But the ECB are definitely up to that kind of challenge! :sarcasm Not sure who they think/hope will be on the plane, no doubt Broad, Anderson and Swann are inked in (injuries permitting) and there may be frantic negotiations with Flintoff for one final Test series push, the gigantic carrot being the Ashes.
Finn would be taken apart by the aussies, they would no doubt go after him and look to destroy his confidence - and most likely they'd succeed. He might be splashing about and keeping afloat against BANGLADESH, against aussies they'll hold his head under long enough to win the series and maybe even drown his career. At home it would be a risk, down under it would be suicidal.
Anderson will probably (again) be our main hope, assuming Sidebottom doesn't magically find his form again. Anderson was not good down under in 06/07, his average overall against the aussies is 56.18, but that won't stop the selectors picking him. In fact his record outside England is pretty abysmal, 43.85 average compared to 30.30 in England, which in itself isn't too clever.
I think we're screwed basically, played in England it is a contest, but our bowling depends heavily on English conditions and even then we're not rock solid or consistent. The mainstays of our bowling attack are nothing special, Swann the pick by some distance, but down under will be a real test of his character. It's ironic many hope Broad will be our new all-rounder, but Swann has his averages the right way round.
Broad - Bat 26.34, Bowl 35.75
Swann - Bat 32.76, Bowl 29.56
Swann has the higher score of the two, I'd say neither is better than seven but I reckon Swann could bat seven while I've yet to be convinced Broad can.
HIGH SCORES
Tests - Swann 85-76 Broad
ODIs - Swann 34-45no Broad
FC - Swann 183-91no Broad
ODs - Swann 83-42no Broad
So no 100s in ANY cricket for Broad, while Swann has been playing longer in county cricket, Broad has played more Tests and wasn't he a batsman early in his youth before someone decided he was tall so he should bowl? That leaves a lot of catching up to do, a steeper learning curve which maybe he can get away with in county cricket, but Tests are harder to make that step up to. He may end up struggling to cope with expectations of him with bat and ball, as it stands Broad's not much more an all-rounder than Cork, DeFreitas and Gough were before him - except their places in the side were justified on their bowling, Broad's always shows promise but he needs to deliver more than just the ball and good balls. Flintoff was good at making batsmen play and miss, but never good enough at getting them out as much as he should.
Sorry if this ends up merged and all one post, it isn't my fault that because a lot of people post one word/sentence nothings consecutively that those who want to make proper separate posts get their's merged into dissertation length
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