English Football Thread 2012/2013
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Bevab
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Rodgers is out of the Liverpool race. Seriously, this manager seat seems to be the most hated job in the world.
And Capello is interested in Chelsea, for me I'd rather continue with Di Matteo for atleast a season.
And Capello is interested in Chelsea, for me I'd rather continue with Di Matteo for atleast a season.
thedon5
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Rodgers is out of the Liverpool race. Seriously, this manager seat seems to be the most hated job in the world.
And Capello is interested in Chelsea, for me I'd rather continue with Di Matteo for atleast a season.
Abramovich is irrational though, unless Chelsea win the CL he will be assistant again.
I still stand by what I said. A top class manager like Pep should be looking at Milan or something.
puddleduck
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Depends on whether he gets into the Champions League by winning it surely? As at the end of the day with him in charge they got spanked in the league by Liverpool and slipped away from the automatic spots. He certainly hasn't done anything tactically other than reset Chelsea to pre AVB tactics and mentality (which was basically what Roman was attempting to move away from). Capello is a club manager with an impecable record, but is he someone that will bring what Roman wants?
MasterBlaster76
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Another ?71m lost thanks to the Gormless Ones - that's our two much needed 'marquee' signings right there! Hell, City bought the title, we've got every right to try and buy it back. 
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Poor Man U. Having to save up and spend 30m on a striker to sit on your bench, and 20m on a couple of prospects... stealing everyone's youth players... etc..... Let it go dude 
Man U are like the kid who bullied everyone at school when he was 12 because he went through a growth spurt, but then everyone else caught up by 16 and got revenge 
Man U are like the kid who bullied everyone at school when he was 12 because he went through a growth spurt, but then everyone else caught up by 16 and got revenge
thedon5
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The fact that he could so quickly restore balance to the team shows that he does to an extent know what he is doing and hence should be given a longer run with the team. He hasn't really had an opportunity to add his own flavour to the team, like a lot of the caretaker managers.
Btw, with inflation, if United signed Rio today, it would've been ~50 m. And 30.5 m is an awful lot for a transfer, even if it is a marquee signing eh Steve? I suppose it's OK because he's going to Old Trafford not the Etihad to wear the shirt.
puddleduck
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They stole our best striker, and he now sits on their bench and never plays... Top scorer in the league, and then dropped and barely gets a look-in. Why, because they went and brought some more strikers. Easy to lay down a nice ?8mill on a promising striker from Mexico, unless you are any club that isn't in the top 4 
(which most Man U fans barely know exists).
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I remember when they signed Veron for nothing but food stamps and saved up ration books. What a noble club fighting for the little man they are
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You say he restored balance, but AVB could clearly have just reverted to old Chelsea and ground out some results, but since he was hired specifically to change the way they played that in itself would have been an admission of failure. Di Matteo really hasn't done anything, he's just put the same players that were a top 3 club the year before back into the same formations and tactics they only know how to play. If Abramovich didn't want change and was still happy with the same old men behind the ball and hit on the break, ruthless and physical football that epitomise Chelsea, then he may as well stuck with any of the previous managers
(which most Man U fans barely know exists).----------
I remember when they signed Veron for nothing but food stamps and saved up ration books. What a noble club fighting for the little man they are
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You say he restored balance, but AVB could clearly have just reverted to old Chelsea and ground out some results, but since he was hired specifically to change the way they played that in itself would have been an admission of failure. Di Matteo really hasn't done anything, he's just put the same players that were a top 3 club the year before back into the same formations and tactics they only know how to play. If Abramovich didn't want change and was still happy with the same old men behind the ball and hit on the break, ruthless and physical football that epitomise Chelsea, then he may as well stuck with any of the previous managers
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Dutch
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*looks around, yawns*
Now where did I put that paint?
Now where did I put that paint?
thedon5
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They stole our best striker, and he now sits on their bench and never plays... Top scorer in the league, and then dropped and barely gets a look-in. Why, because they went and brought some more strikers. Easy to lay down a nice ?8mill on a promising striker from Mexico, unless you are any club that isn't in the top 4
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I remember when they signed Veron for nothing but food stamps and saved up ration books. What a noble club fighting for the little man they are
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You say he restored balance, but AVB could clearly have just reverted to old Chelsea and ground out some results, but since he was hired specifically to change the way they played that in itself would have been an admission of failure. Di Matteo really hasn't done anything, he's just put the same players that were a top 3 club the year before back into the same formations and tactics they only know how to play. If Abramovich didn't want change and was still happy with the same old men behind the ball and hit on the break, ruthless and physical football that epitomise Chelsea, then he may as well stuck with any of the previous managers
All very true. I know how you feel, Man City take our players and transfer targets. Now Utd are taking Kagawa when he would fit much better here.
I always seem to forget about Veron. Wasn't he bought on a free or something and I believe he scored a hat trick in his first game in the Manchester derby? That was brilliant work from Fergie, really shows his abilities as a manager to take someone from the gutter and make them that. The master of nurturing talent and only buying players when necessary for small amounts.
Berbatov back to White Hart Lane would be good for you. Especially if Defoe leaves, it would be essential. Adebayor is obviously not staying.
Dr. Pepper
Chairman of Selectors
Brendan Rodgers turns down Liverpool, good man. Just need Martinez to turn them down as well. He deserves better than a club that don't want him at all and will turn on him at the first possible opportunity.
Di Matteo has raised morale brilliantly and brought the dressing room together again. As an intern manager he's done exactly what he needed to do, much like Dalglish did. In the long term however I don't think he's the right man to take the club forward. They need to continue to phase the majority of the team out.
Di Matteo has raised morale brilliantly and brought the dressing room together again. As an intern manager he's done exactly what he needed to do, much like Dalglish did. In the long term however I don't think he's the right man to take the club forward. They need to continue to phase the majority of the team out.
ste_mc_efc
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I don't think you can class pep as a top class manager just yet.
Yes he did do a great job at barca. But most managers would have won a lot of trophies of there with that squad, which he didn't really build himself. Of course he made some signings and got rid of some of the established stars, but as manager of barcelona he could pretty much sign any player he wanted.
It's one thing for him as a Barcelona man to inherit a great squad and will fit in there and immediately have their respect and attention due to his prior ties at the club. It is another thing to assume that means he is would be great when taking over a job in a country he has never played/coached at a club with less pull and probably less financial clout and definitely in need of more of an overhaul than than the barca side he inherited.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
I actually feel that Pep himself believes this.
Dr. Pepper
Chairman of Selectors
Guardiola can never manage again and still be on the pantheon of football managers. I find it incredible that people still don't believe he's that good. Barcelona was a mess when he took over. Sure there was the infrastructure in place but he had the balls to phase out the star players who had control of the dressing room and bring through the likes of Busquets and Pedro without any fuss whatsoever.
He didn't just inherit the squad and just stand still. He kept moving forward and evolving. Every season he made slight changes that were so important. Moving Messi into the middle, swapping Toure's work rate for Busquets' control, pushing Alves (and Abidal to a lesser extent) further and further up the pitch.
Rijkaard's Barcelona were great at their peak but Guardiola's was the greatest side of all time. The 5-0 against Madrid was the absolute pinnacle of football. His side didn't just win trophies, they completely dominated them.
Bob Paisley inherited Bill Shankly's team and continued to reach incredible success with Liverpool. Is his status as one of the best ever questioned? No, obviously not.
He didn't just inherit the squad and just stand still. He kept moving forward and evolving. Every season he made slight changes that were so important. Moving Messi into the middle, swapping Toure's work rate for Busquets' control, pushing Alves (and Abidal to a lesser extent) further and further up the pitch.
Rijkaard's Barcelona were great at their peak but Guardiola's was the greatest side of all time. The 5-0 against Madrid was the absolute pinnacle of football. His side didn't just win trophies, they completely dominated them.
Bob Paisley inherited Bill Shankly's team and continued to reach incredible success with Liverpool. Is his status as one of the best ever questioned? No, obviously not.
His resignation comes from a simple fact that he's a Workaholic. Apparently there's more to that. Having the best players in the world in his team makes the job more turbulent and Difficult, quite the contrary. We've seen strong squads losing it to new managers, AVB is such a recent example.
I think Pep is bold, so are his plans and philosophy. When he took over Barca he made sure he got everything he wanted, with the likes of Xavi surging up front again, and Messi, needless to say however.
So if he makes a move to the Premier League which is probably certain, He'll rework his club. His schematics are well structured. Undermining him from Barcelona's larger than life typecast would be a mistake, because wherever he goes he can be Successful if not with the same kick start and Trophies he's achieved for Barcelona.
I think Pep is bold, so are his plans and philosophy. When he took over Barca he made sure he got everything he wanted, with the likes of Xavi surging up front again, and Messi, needless to say however.
So if he makes a move to the Premier League which is probably certain, He'll rework his club. His schematics are well structured. Undermining him from Barcelona's larger than life typecast would be a mistake, because wherever he goes he can be Successful if not with the same kick start and Trophies he's achieved for Barcelona.
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