never said they were shoe ins, neither did MB, I distinctly remember him saying "there or thereabouts" in relations to man u's chances, just they're not going to fall so far back as to be out of sight. you said it was between arsenal and city, city aren't doing very well either but I reckon, like man u, they'll catch up.
I will categorically state that come march it will not be a two horse race between arsenal and tottenham. I'd wait a month until I'm convinced by arsenal, they play chelsea, liverpool, dortmund in the CL then united, that will be where their season takes shape.
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will say this though, terrible loss for united, and yet they've managed to lose a mere point on the 3 title contenders, arsenal could take advantage and it's worrying that united are stuttering like this but they've yet to be punished for that awful result.
Fair enough, but I still feel you massively overrated Man Utd. There or thereabouts means winning the title, MB may not say the exact words Man Utd will win the title but he means it. I think they are out of sight, unless they can get in a great new manager, maybe someone like Hitzfeld and five or six new players. Otherwise Europa League might be a struggle at this rate.
I agree about Arsenal, other than the few bigger games though we've got an easy run through to February so by then we'll be in a good position no matter how we do in the bigger games so long as we don't self-destruct. Mind you we have no wingers right now. As I said though I think we'll drop points at the Liberty, we aren't perfect or close to it.
As for the title race, I think City will be in the thick of it. Pellegrini hasn't had his tactics right IMO in all but the Man Utd and Newcastle games, and can't comment on the Villa game as I didn't see it but it wasn't too good either I'd imagine. Both those games showed that they can bring the results at home though, and against both big and small teams as well. Once he gets his right and his squad gels under him they'll be in there. Mancini must be laughing.
Mourinho is an idiot and I think he has been ever since he left Inter, he doesn't know what he's doing and unless he really steps it up Chelsea will be out of it. None of their signings were that great, and they also loaned out their best striker. They finished only a few points ahead of Arsenal and Tottenham, and seem to have picked up a poorer manager.
As for Tottenham, they have a lot more to prove than Arsenal. I thought they'd finish below Liverpool before the season started. They have proven that they are looking a good team after Bale, and have made some good signings, I'm not sure they can score enough goals though, their attack looks weak and while their defence has been solid other than Lloris all the players in their back line seem a bit weak.
In any case, it's all open and it's looking like the best ever PL season.
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