English Football Thread 2013/14

[Lee1981]

Just say that you don't have any respect for a team which has dominated English Football for years. Also, just think how would you feel if you lost your children in the disaster.

Another reason I hate Liverpool

Still bringing up the past, you have done nothing in years in English football, nothing.

And yes Hillsborough was a bad thing, no one can ever deny that.

But scousers can never move on, you can't bring these people back they are gone, how many more times do we need to bring it up?

My kids are irrelevant in this, I don't know how I would react, the only thing I know is I would NOT milk the situation like the scousers have

 

[barmyarmy]

I think it's important to understand culturally how scousers are seen by the rest of the UK. That's one of the main reasons everyone was so willing to believe what they were told about Hillsborough. Likewise afterwards people put it down to Liverpool's victim culture and didn't treat the event with due seriousness.

 

[Skater]

Another reason I hate Liverpool

Still bringing up the past, you have done nothing in years in English football, nothing.

And yes Hillsborough was a bad thing, no one can ever deny that.

But scousers can never move on, you can't bring these people back they are gone, how many more times do we need to bring it up?

My kids are irrelevant in this, I don't know how I would react, the only thing I know is I would NOT milk the situation like the scousers have

However you feel about this, it might be wise not to air your views here. Not today. You are only going to cause anger.

Hillsborough was not only Britain's worst sporting disaster, it was also a national disgrace. A cover up by the police and disgusting reaction from The Sun which are still being unravelled. It may have been 25 years ago, but that only means that it is 25 years where no one has been made accountable for their actions that day. The families of those 94 men and 2 women deserve justice.

I will be at Carrow Road on Sunday, as I usually am, to see Norwich play (and hopefully beat) Liverpool. And while I hope we beat them to hopefully stay in the Premier League, I would be delighted for Liverpool to go on and win the title.

And days like today make 'hating Liverpool' simply irrelevant. Hillsborough wasn't a Liverpool tragedy, it was a football tragedy.

 

[Lee1981]

Does having "someone to blame" bring back the people who died?

This is the problem with the country as a whole, someone is always to blame.

Get over it, nothing anyone can say or do will change a thing, respect their memory by getting on with your life.

If and when I snuff it I will not want my loved ones to continually mourn me and waste their life chasing answers as to how or why I may have died.

Accidents happen everyday and people die, that is life, sometimes it's time to move on and this "disaster" is a prime example

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Does having "someone to blame" bring back the people who died?

This is the problem with the country as a whole, someone is always to blame.

Get over it, nothing anyone can say or do will change a thing, respect their memory by getting on with your life.

If and when I snuff it I will not want my loved ones to continually mourn me and waste their life chasing answers as to how or why I may have died.

Accidents happen everyday and people die, that is life, sometimes it's time to move on and this "disaster" is a prime example

yeh but what if your loved ones were then blamed for your death even though it wasn't their fault? Would you want them to just get on with it then?

The fact it happened 25 years ago isn't really relevant. There is a new inquest going on right now as I type. The whole issue is far from over.

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the only thing I know is I would NOT milk the situation like the scousers have

Milked the situation?

Up until recently the majority of the country believe the lies peddled by the police and the gutter press and as a result held incorrect opinions about liverpool fans and, to a lesser extent, scousers in general.

They've been trying to correct the situation. Not milk it.

I bet you were gutted when the Independent Panel released it's findings.

 

[shravi]

Did he really just put quotation marks around the word disaster?

 

[War]

God damn Lee, that's the most insensitive thing I've heard in a while. Sounds like something Nick Griffin from the British National Party would say.

 

[Lee1981]

And what's wrong with the BNP?

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Did he really just put quotation marks around the word disaster?

Well yes I did

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yeh but what if your loved ones were then blamed for your death even though it wasn't their fault? Would you want them to just get on with it then?

The fact it happened 25 years ago isn't really relevant. There is a new inquest going on right now as I type. The whole issue is far from over.

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Milked the situation?

Up until recently the majority of the country believe the lies peddled by the police and the gutter press and as a result held incorrect opinions about liverpool fans and, to a lesser extent, scousers in general.

They've been trying to correct the situation. Not milk it.

I bet you were gutted when the Independent Panel released it's findings.

The police lied, so bloody what, these people ain't coming back, what are these people trying to achieve?

Trying to get compensation more than likely

 

[Skater]

Lee, what you're doing is bordering on trolling. Come on. Show some respect.

 

[Lee1981]

Anyone who has debated with me on here in the last 4-5 years would know I'm not trolling.

I'm giving my opinion, that is all, you may not agree with it but I'm saying what I feel.

Have I once said that Hillsborough wasn't a bad to thing to have happened?

Yes it was an unfortunate incident, and innocent people died, on 07/07/05 London was bombed in a terrorist attack, we here less about that then we do about Hillsborough.

How can this be, innocent people died then, could the MI5 not have done more, did they cover up information on the knowledge of the planned attack?

Always someone to blame hey!

 

[Skater]

What you are doing is being ignorant. They may be your views, but they are ill informed views.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Anyone who has debated with me on here in the last 4-5 years would know I'm not trolling.

I'm giving my opinion, that is all, you may not agree with it but I'm saying what I feel.

Have I once said that Hillsborough wasn't a bad to thing to have happened?

Yes it was an unfortunate incident, and innocent people died, on 07/07/05 London was bombed in a terrorist attack, we here less about that then we do about Hillsborough.

How can this be, innocent people died then, could the MI5 not have done more, did they cover up information on the knowledge of the planned attack?

Always someone to blame hey!

You don't get it.

You'll never get it because you don't want to get it.


I don't really get what you're hoping to achieve by posting like this.

 

[shravi]

You don't get it.

You'll never get it because you don't want to get it.


I don't really get what you're hoping to achieve by posting like this.

Exactly. There's no point trying to dignify it with a response because he is so beholden to his misinformed opinion.

 

[Lee1981]

I get it

Does not mean I will change what i think for anyone

I've made my point

 

[Abhas]

Nobody expects sympathy from you Lee, least after 25 years of the incidence, but at the least you could learn to have some empathy for the victim's families.
Every year the world remembers the dead on 9/11, why? They're not going to come back are they?
Memorials are held to condemn the reasons/actions due to which the deaths occurred. Hillsborough is important, because it wasn't only the accident that occurred, what followed was even worse.
There have been numerous stadium disasters in the world, none as significant as this, for the reasons outlined above.

I know you already know the "facts" better than I do, I just hope you open that lock in your head someday.

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Does having "someone to blame" bring back the people who died?

I always seem to wonder why murderers are prosecuted.