ICC Cricket World Cup - May/July 2019
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SiriusBlack
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Finishing 8th after having a pretty decent tournament is just sad.
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Tbh, if the performances are to be considered, all of Afghanistan, West Indies, Pakistan & Bangladesh to finish over NZ but at times luck favoured NZ a tad too much.Almost lost to Ban, WI, SA.
I Just feel WI were the most unlucky of the lot. They almost defeated Aus & NZ and had a rained of game against the )roteas.
To be fairly honest, though the points table would say something different, all teams played well where some got extremely lucky whereas some landed on the other extreme. Seeing Afghanistan/West Indies deserved a spot or two higher than what they achieved. Same could be said for Bangladesh. Similarly NZ and SA would have better been 2 spots down considering what they actually performed.
At one point, there was the discussion about "what if the AUS-SA game got to a tie. If it got to a tie, no of wins gets first preference. But both AUS and IND will tied there at 7 wins each. The next thing is NRR. And I read on Cricinfo that if the game got tied, AUS would have topped the table since they would've had an NRR or 0.895 vs India's 0.809.
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Way too many almosts and ifs and buts
If you can't win close games, then you don't deserve two points. As simple as that
AFG we can forgive because of lack of experience. But West Indies are at the right place on the table. Their batsmen underperformed big time and their bowling was one dimensional. Losing wickets at crucial intervals and not putting a high enough price on their wickets by their A list players was the problem.
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All the fans who are rooting for head to head should be preferred instead of nrr , remember last world cup Ireland and the West Indies were on 6 points but due to better nrr WI went through despite Ireland beating WI in the group stages.
Another case was in ICC World T20 2012 super 8 where both India and Pakistan had 4 points but Pakistan went through due to superior nrr despite India beating Pakistan.
The best case where nrr were useful was in the 2007 WT20 where one bad game cost South Africa a chance in semis where India,New Zealand and South Africa were on 4 points each in the super 8 stage. South Africa won against New Zealand , New Zealand won against India and then India went on to beat South Africa in manner that South Africa got knocked out.
In a game where each run and wickets matter nrr is an absolute fair assessment to be a qualifying factor perhaps the way it is being calculated needs to be reconsidered.
Another case was in ICC World T20 2012 super 8 where both India and Pakistan had 4 points but Pakistan went through due to superior nrr despite India beating Pakistan.
The best case where nrr were useful was in the 2007 WT20 where one bad game cost South Africa a chance in semis where India,New Zealand and South Africa were on 4 points each in the super 8 stage. South Africa won against New Zealand , New Zealand won against India and then India went on to beat South Africa in manner that South Africa got knocked out.
In a game where each run and wickets matter nrr is an absolute fair assessment to be a qualifying factor perhaps the way it is being calculated needs to be reconsidered.
Lol.
@wasteyouryouth Someone's on your side :
Michael Holding "Pakistan should be in the semi-finals if they beat Bangladesh. NRR should be the last thing to consider. If points & wins are equal then the result between both teams should be deciding factor. Since Pakistan beat New Zealand they should be in semi-finals"
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Geez! Who are these people? How can they come up with such ridiculously moronic comments? Even players players like Abdul Razzaq said something similar about Shami and said Mickey Arthur will only leave the job if he dies.This is just absolute .......
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Congrats to team India, What a beautiful show against Sri Lanka by two opening batsmen and all-round performance. I am looking forward to an India England Final. With both teams love to play on batting paradise. Its gonna be a cracker if we get a good flat pitch for the Finals.
For the 1st Semi Final, If Ferguson is not fit for the game then there are problems for NZ, their batsmen are totally out of nick and quite much pressure on Kane Williamson alone, Ross Taylor shouldn't be in this WC squad in the first place due to his age factor and lacklustre performance. I think NZ should bank on their spinners, Santner and Sodhi should be there as well. I am not sure whether Sodhi was there in WC squad or not. Previously, NZ did surprise India a few times with their superb bowling performance.
For the 1st Semi Final, If Ferguson is not fit for the game then there are problems for NZ, their batsmen are totally out of nick and quite much pressure on Kane Williamson alone, Ross Taylor shouldn't be in this WC squad in the first place due to his age factor and lacklustre performance. I think NZ should bank on their spinners, Santner and Sodhi should be there as well. I am not sure whether Sodhi was there in WC squad or not. Previously, NZ did surprise India a few times with their superb bowling performance.
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I can feel the same for WI in NZ match, it was a great game of Cricket but NZ was also there to perform and at the end of the day luck was with NZ and it was a good performance by NZ as well apart from luck, that was a tough catch at the boundary in such a pressure situation when thousands of the crowds roaring behind Carlos Sixes.
Against Australia, I am failed to understand that WI thinking, It wasn't luck factor rather than just Windies own self-destructive approach. The tail-ender blocked all the six balls virtually in the second last over, didn't give the strike to Nurse while Nurse was also just blocking before and in the last final over, He smashed four fours in a row I guess and those were proper cricketing shots? What was that match about anyway?
The most unlucky team towards the end, I'd consider Pakistan and we have talked a lot about already on that.
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haha as soon as they rested Shami I knew someone will mention this, best thing to do is just ignore it but I believe Shami didn't need rest.
This is just absolute .......
India will use Shami in the semi-final and final I am sure but if they don't then I guess they will mention it again.
Master Khan
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When it comes to NRR just one big lost can hurt you in the end and Pakistan learn that lesson in this world cup, Pakistan didn't improve on it in the next matchs just made it worse, I still prefer the 2015 world cup format.
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Bevab
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No offence meant, but do you really judge a player from other teams only by the few matches that you happen to see them play? You called Bairstow a relatively poor player few weeks ago despite him being the best English ODI opener over the last two years and now you’ve called Roscoe who has been the third best ODI batsman in the world (even better than Williamson!) over the last four years as someone who shouldn’t even be in their WC squad?
The age argument is even more silly, Faf is nearly the same age and no one would advocate dropping him. Personally, I would love to have a player like Roscoe in the Indian side, he’s the perfect number 4 that is capable of building the patient innings if required or be aggressive when the situation demands.
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Umm, I think we have been seeing those groups World Cups format for the past decade or so, I still prefer this 92 World Cup format every team plays with every team, it gives equal and fair chance to every team to compete. I am equally comfortable with NRR. NRR is not a luck based thing, it can be strategized by any team to make it better, it's not an impossible thing. Pakistan failed to strategize about it and paid the price. The dependability on other teams wasn't a good thing at all.
NILAYSHAH60
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If we had him our batting line-up would've become more dangerous than England on flat pitches
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