India in England Jun-Sept 2014

[IceAgeComing]

what's the world record lowest test score?

 

[richowebbo]

Correction for my previous post: India are awful.

e: I mean England are bad (you have to be to play Chris tweaking Woakes as a specialist bowler); but India are that much worse...

Woakes, what an Over. Brilliant bowling.

 

[IceAgeComing]

does that now mean that his bowling average is below 100

 

[tonka115]

what's the world record lowest test score?

26 scored by New Zealand against England in 1955

 

[IceAgeComing]

Thread Question: what do Chris Jordan, Monty Panesar Phil Tufnell and Devon Malcolm have in common?

 

[Aalay]

Same old story with India collapsing again some tight bowling. Even though World cup is about 6 months away, I don't see how Dhoni and Flethcer will survive after yet another series loss overseas. Especially one in which we were leading the series after 2 tests. Lord's victory seems like ages ago.

 

[grkrama]

what's the world record lowest test score?

England does seem to have a long history of blowing out oppositions for low scores not limited to india. Though nothing recently, seems india has done a good job of getting them back to form from their pathetic state.

Records | Test matches | Team records | Lowest innings totals | ESPN Cricinfo

On a side note for 8-4 of india, england has had it worse they were 2-4 in one innings in 2003 i think

 

[Leggie]

Kohli needed this series of failures to put his massive ego in check.

And for those calling for head of Dhoni, St the end of the day he can only work with what he's got. I highly doubt that if we had an 'aggressive' captain, Pujara and Kohli would've had a better series. It will happen time and time again, they will bully domestic bowler's back in India, but when it comes to pitches that offer 5 degrees of movement off the seam, they will fail hopelessly. I can see this trend continuing for at least another 10 years until domestic curators in India decided that they want the national team to have some success and outside of India.

 

[Satan666]

Kohli needed this series of failures to put his massive ego in check.

And for those calling for head of Dhoni, St the end of the day he can only work with what he's got. I highly doubt that if we had an 'aggressive' captain, Pujara and Kohli would've had a better series. It will happen time and time again, they will bully domestic bowler's back in India, but when it comes to pitches that offer 5 degrees of movement off the seam, they will fail hopelessly. I can see this trend continuing for at least another 10 years until domestic curators in India decided that they want the national team to have some success and outside of India.

Has been the story of Indian cricket for a long time now. With the advent of T20 cricket the Indian batsmen are slogging even more and the bowlers are having nothing to work with, all the pitches are prepared for slogging. Look a guy like Jadeja has scored three triple centuries and performs so badly on overseas tours, the Pujara's and Rahane's average close to 60 in first class cricket yet are playing so horrible at the international level. Dhoni has been the savior throughout the series yet he has gotten the most bashing from the Indian contingent of something he has no control of, top order and main order consistently failing. I hope after lunch MSD gets bowled out and India score below 100 then they can be justified for bashing him!

 

[namin96]

Kohli needed this series of failures to put his massive ego in check.

And for those calling for head of Dhoni, St the end of the day he can only work with what he's got. I highly doubt that if we had an 'aggressive' captain, Pujara and Kohli would've had a better series. It will happen time and time again, they will bully domestic bowler's back in India, but when it comes to pitches that offer 5 degrees of movement off the seam, they will fail hopelessly. I can see this trend continuing for at least another 10 years until domestic curators in India decided that they want the national team to have some success and outside of India.

This team has a bunch of shameless fools who just can't apply themselves anywhere other than India. This is absolutely horrendous, and there seems to be no shame in playing like this on your country's independence day!!! Honestly screw the top order, losing the test on the first day itself.... I don't understand why Dhoni has to take all the blame and criticism when his top order can't do crap overseas. All professional crickets like Gavaskar, Ganguly, Kapil Dev criticize him when he is trying his best to captain a side that is so inexperienced and a bunch of fools. To be honest, Dhoni's overseas record is as bad as it is because of his bowlers and batters not playing well when it is most needed. I can't realize why the people who criticize him don't understand this, if we take a look at the previous England and Australia tours please tell me how Dhoni can effectively captain a side which failed to put up even 300 runs in a single inning (they did get 400 in Sydney but it was in the follow on) and when his bowlers ball consistently short and wide. If you get 400+ runs on the board then you give your bowlers more margin to bowl confidently. His overseas record is because of these shameless fools who are failing to apply themselves and the seniors who were nearing the 40s (which is understandable). I just wonder what is going to happen to this current team when Dhoni leaves, there will be no experienced captain and leader like him. The best team had great players like Sehwag, Chopra, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly, Kumble, Harbhajan, and so on.. That team was just rock solid and this England team would have gotten absolutely crushed. To consistently blame Dhoni for everything is just wrong and stupid, and if that is the case why not make Team India consist of Dhoni only! For people like Gavaskar critcizing him at times, I want to see Gavaskar captain this Indian team and see how good he can do it.[DOUBLEPOST=1408108664][/DOUBLEPOST]

Kohli needed this series of failures to put his massive ego in check.

And for those calling for head of Dhoni, St the end of the day he can only work with what he's got. I highly doubt that if we had an 'aggressive' captain, Pujara and Kohli would've had a better series. It will happen time and time again, they will bully domestic bowler's back in India, but when it comes to pitches that offer 5 degrees of movement off the seam, they will fail hopelessly. I can see this trend continuing for at least another 10 years until domestic curators in India decided that they want the national team to have some success and outside of India.

Well at least he didn't get out to Anderson this time, that could be a slight improvement! I still think he doesn't have the technique to play in England.

 

[PokerAce]

Wow I go and return and India are only 5 down !!

Also everyone has a poor opinion of Kohli suddenly. I suppose when a player is down its a good time to kick him and all kinds of phrases are brought into use, Flat Track Bullies, only good for T20 (when actually I can't remember one good innings of his in T20, but that is the nature of T20) and what not. While its great for now, but come on all the kicking on Kohli, and the guy still averages 37 in Aus, 78 in NZ and 68 in SA. Those didn't come in T20s, or on Flat Wickets. FIRST ever poor tour for the guy and he is suddenly all kind and manner of things. Its quite funny actually.

No one is saying he is having a tour, but one cannot ignore that this is his FIRST poor tour in his career. I am sure in the ODI series he will be fine. He can be his aggressive self again. He has tied himself down with the need to play test cricket in a 'test cricket' type of way. One must leave a lot, and defend balls that one should be attacking. That is not Kohli's game, and thats not how he played in SA and NZ. Trying to leave a ball he would whack, over Extra Cover in ODIs. Not saying he has not struggled, but a guy is allowed a bad tour in his career, so calm down everyone. Pujara on the other hand, I think needs more work put into it than Kohli.

 

[Leggie]

The best team had great players like Sehwag, Chopra, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly, Kumble, Harbhajan, and so on.. That team was just rock solid and this England team would have gotten absolutely crushed.

Maybe in their prime, but around 5 of those players played against an England side similar to this and got destroyed back in 2011. We barely just won in 2007, had Sreesanth been given LBW at Lords, the record would be even worse lol

 

[PokerAce]

Regardless of the final Score I have great respect for Dhoni for his innings in the last test and here - willing to take blows on his body to stay at the wicket. It does hurt, but won't get u out. Well Done.

 

[richowebbo]

does that now mean that his bowling average is below 100

He's not bowled badly. He's only just started playing test cricket! Give the lad a chance! Your lot played Mitchell Johnson once upon a time!

 

[Leggie]

No one is saying he is having a tour, but one cannot ignore that this is his FIRST poor tour in his career. I am sure in the ODI series he will be fine.

I just hope that he learns after this tour and doesn't go around cursing everyone in sight when he scores a century against Bangladesh on a road of a pitch in a meaningless tournament.